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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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John and Jessica best feats from their comics

Welp, good fucking game...

Kale was able to fight Goku wasn’t she? She curbstomps both.

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No. Top speeds are undetermined. The only person that is confirmed to be at Mach speeds is Naoya who is below Toji, Naobito, Jogo, Geto/Kenjaku, Yuta, Sukuna, Gojo, and Mahoraga with all of them (possible exception of Naobito) being the actual top tiers.

Even a 0.2 usage of Mahito's Domain was fast enough for him to touch Sukuna and get out before the latter destroy him
How is this a bad speed showing?

Because even if we go by SB's low tier standards for feats, Archer would basically be way too fast for Jogo to ever deal with properly, let alone well enough.
 

He never noted this. He only notes the impossibility of soul burning flame, and then very stereotypically the impossibility of his own death before ah, dying.

Yes both of them talk about the fire - how it breaks the bounded field and how it burns souls. 0 mention of it negating regeneration happens.

I don't know what to say. You're not only arguing in favor of something that is never stated, but something that is actively contradicted by Dante himself. He needs to keep up his momentum to stop Roa from regenerating. This wouldn't happen if his flames were intrinsically anti-regen.

So the soul destroying flames... can't be anti-regeneration because you can't understand something from the Drama CD?
Like this is so stupid, it's legit expected from Spacebattles at this point...
 

Why are people brining up UBW like it would matter?

It has a very long chant in order to actually bring it out. Despite what games and the anime would depict, it isn't something that can just be thrown out that easily. Not only that, its not something he actually uses in fights against pear opponents. He only uses it against Saber in order to bluff the fuck out of the situation and get away.

Also, if Jojo brings out his Domain, it should just be instant death? Cause he will land a sure hit with his attack and Archer wouldn't know anything about how domains actually function in any way. He wouldn't know how to counter such a thing and wouldn't expect it at all.

The discussion of Domain vs UBW is more or less useless cause a Domain is more or less an instant win, or at least makes it impossible for Emiya to win if its used. Its impossible to respond with UBWs with it, and Archer never defaults to using UBW to actually beat an opponent.

>EMIYA being too slow to use UBW or even a simple Projection before DE can be used
>Believing EMIYA is dead immediately the second DE comes out despite Servants can bathe in lava.

Mhm, I love this extreme downplay by SB...


It's inherently incompatible with the dynamics of nasu fights - especially Medusa vs Salter. I reasoned this fairly in depth while acknowledging that it can exist in fiction if it's actually shown or a requirement to unify disparate portrayals.

I went over that in the second asterisk mark. These do maybe amp the feat, but it's hard to calc to what degree since we have 0 clue of the degree of the average arc. A 10 degree arc is a very different beast from a 180 degree arc. I would also throw in that Cu was straight up FTE blitzing Emiya at this point in time, so it's fairly likely that Emiya was using conservative minimalist movements to block the 100+ jabs.

Neat. I more so meant how strong she is portrayed relative to other servants / how impressive that ability is treated. I acknowledged that supersonic figures are things that crop up, but they tend to be exceptional rather than casual / a continuous thing. Such as Emiya needing Hercs NP to break the speed of sound, Ishtar needing to go full throttle on her flight to make a mach cone, or Saber having to dump all her energy into a supercharged mana burst reach mach 6. Etc.

"Muh Fate speeds are inconsistent and continually trying to make excuses for it"
>Literally adds in the Salter vs. Medusa fight in which there's a protracted fight on falling stalagmites that lasts for minutes despite still falling.

No wonder you don't see many people in the VS. thread in SB as of late outside of mods banning people.
 
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