Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

[Paxton]

On the subject of Gae Bolg, does it specifically target the heart or the equivalent of a heart? Because Servants are basically made of energy that mocks a human body, but aren't actually "living". So I thought that was kind of weird.

 

[Adamant soul]

I mean, I'll be real, the only Servants I see the Espada beating is wimps like Cursed Arm Hassan and the like.
Thinking the Espada can match shit like this with their base strength:

Then you are freaking MENTAL.

I mean the same goes for most of the Bleach verse, it is only the VERY High and top tiers who'd have a solid chance at beating a couple more notable names (still not making it very far though).

What makes this ludicrous is that it's the Espada who are at best mid tiers and these people somehow think they are beating most Servants.

All Fate needs is one "mad dog" to send the Espada to an early grave.

 

[Qinglong]

Abel (Devil Survivor) runs a MegaTen/SMT Protag gauntlet SPOILERS!

It really just depends on how much stock you put in Abel before he became King being able to beat Lucifer and the latter commenting that nobody should be as strong as he is Well actually, Abel as king is explicitly beyond blowing up the planet so he can clear most of the gauntlet on that alone...

forums.spacebattles.com

>clapped fucking Metatron
>even far weaker demons like King Frost are planet level

Stop pretending you fake ass fan

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Abel (Devil Survivor) runs a MegaTen/SMT Protag gauntlet SPOILERS!

It really just depends on how much stock you put in Abel before he became King being able to beat Lucifer and the latter commenting that nobody should be as strong as he is Well actually, Abel as king is explicitly beyond blowing up the planet so he can clear most of the gauntlet on that alone...

forums.spacebattles.com

>clapped fucking Metatron
>even far weaker demons like King Frost are planet level

Stop pretending you fake ass fan

>strange journey never gets to planet level

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

On the subject of Gae Bolg, does it specifically target the heart or the equivalent of a heart? Because Servants are basically made of energy that mocks a human body, but aren't actually "living". So I thought that was kind of weird.

It targets "equivalents". Nasu was ALSO very particular about that:

Q. I have a question about the Servants vs. other character answer in the 9th issue of Comptiq. About a Servant with an average Noble Phantasm, who would have one and what rank would that have been?

A: That's a serious question. The level of the Noble Phantasm would be B, and ability being represented by numbers would be called an average Noble Phantasm. Broken Phantasm, Barrier of the Wind King (C), Gae Bolg (thrown) (B), that sort.
On the other hand, those with conceptual effects, destiny interference types fall into a special category. With Gae Bolg (regular), no matter how much Arcueid might be superior to Lancer in numbers, she will be killed depending on her luck, you see.

And Arcueid herself isn't really "human" herself and can die from Gae Bolg so yeah.

I mean the same goes for most of the Bleach verse, it is only the VERY High and top tiers who'd have a solid chance at beating a couple more notable names (still not making it very far though).

What makes this ludicrous is that it's the Espada who are at best mid tiers and these people somehow think they are beating most Servants.

All Fate needs is one "mad dog" to send the Espada to an early grave.

It's worse as the latest Fate movies have been doing a REALLY good job in showing how absurd many of these Servants are which makes the downplay worse:


This is literally him just fucking around, and the level of damage from Failnaught till he loses it never stops being this destructive:


But nah, Espada can deal with damage of this magnitude happening constantly while the character is just pissing about and not aiming for the kill immediately like he really does outside of the Lion King's Gift.

 

[Paxton]

It targets "equivalents". Nasu was ALSO very particular about that:


And Arcueid herself isn't really "human" herself and can die from Gae Bolg so yeah.



It's worse as the latest Fate movies have been doing a REALLY good job in showing how absurd many of these Servants are which makes the downplay worse:


This is literally him just fucking around, and the level of damage from Failnaught till he loses it never stops being this destructive:


But nah, Espada can deal with damage of this magnitude happening constantly while the character is just pissing about and not aiming for the kill immediately like he really does outside of the Lion King's Gift.

What would happen if someone had multiple "hearts"? Would it only affect one or all of them?

 

[Adamant soul]

It's worse as the latest Fate movies have been doing a REALLY good job in showing how absurd many of these Servants are which makes the downplay worse:


This is literally him just fucking around, and the level of damage from Failnaught till he loses it never stops being this destructive:


But nah, Espada can deal with damage of this magnitude happening constantly while the character is just pissing about and not aiming for the kill immediately like he really does outside of the Lion King's Gift.

Hmm this guy seems OP, wonder who he is.
Looks him up.
Oh he's a knight of the Round Table, that makes sense.

Is he blind or does he just choose to always keep his eyes shut ala Gin?

 

[Dead Lock]

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...ger-galactus-vs-lifebringer-galactus-2095385/

Lifebringer Galactus is gonna smack this nigga so hard he will wake up in Oblivion's realm.

 

[Cryso Agori]

What would happen if someone had multiple "hearts"? Would it only affect one or all of them?

Pretty sure it would auto target one, but the thorms stabbing every part of the body would take care of the rest.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

What would happen if someone had multiple "hearts"? Would it only affect one or all of them?

Nope, it will just have more targets

Hmm this guy seems OP, wonder who he is.
Looks him up.
Oh he's a knight of the Round Table, that makes sense.

Is he blind or does he just choose to always keep his eyes shut ala Gin?

His eyes are legit shut as he can open them whenever he wants but doesn't do so. He ends up confusing everyone including Artoria as he has SLEPT like that before during parades and meetings.

But ultimately the KoTR in Fate is no joke and would virtually sweep the entire Bleachverse:


The last thing a good amount of them see before Agravain The Iron basically fucks all of their shit up.

 

[Paxton]

Nope, it will just have more targets



His eyes are legit shut as he can open them whenever he wants but doesn't do so. He ends up confusing everyone including Artoria as he has SLEPT like that before during parades and meetings.

But ultimately the KoTR in Fate is no joke and would virtually sweep the entire Bleachverse:


The last thing a good amount of them see before Agravain The Iron basically fucks all of their shit up.

So it'd affect all of them at once?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

So it'd affect all of them at once?

Well it's more once it's TNR hits one heart, it will shoot all of the barbs everywhere at every point in the body so the rest will get shredded regardless and tear apart the body from within.

 

[Blade]

archer and cu can solo the espada, like cui's, and it's not even funny, they are on another level compared to them

 

[Blade]

every forum just has their own verses they tend to use a lot

olf obd stans tf and comics

cvine stans comics and medaka box

sb stans every series, except from nasuland cuz of jelly

youtube stans db and comics as well















as we can see, the variation in headcanon land, is just built dif, according to each sites's tastes

 

[Blade]

i didn't add quora cuz they are too outerversal and 5D levels

vsbw are 4D levels and hyperversal

 

[Dead Lock]

Discord

 

[Maddie]

VSB stans light novels, visual novels, and weebshit

Spacebattles stans Xeelee Sequence and the Culture (Not that they get their rating wrong. SB is actually quite accurate with more sciency sci-fi series stats it's just they downplay everyone else in comparison)

Discord

They stan furr shit

 

[Dead Lock]

Lucifer vs Femto

 

[OtherGalaxy]

at least current SB stans toaru harder than any other verse, but in the past it seemed like other stuff like Exalted was up there too

 

[Maddie]

at least current SB stans toaru harder than any other verse, but in the past it seemed like other stuff like Exalted was up there too

SB seems weird, they either are pretty accurate with a select few verses but never discuss it anymore (Xeelee, the Culture, Doctor Who, Halo, etc) or grotesquely innacurate and downplay or wank it to high heaven and those are the only threads they ever care about