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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Nah that's not what I'm taking about, after nuclear blast Wrath and Ainz throw around spells stated to be equal to nuclear blast but it's only stated, the spells never actually did anything
That's like one-year-old though? What's the point anyway. If it's recent I can understand but that's like old.
Pure curiosity, but how large are phases? There was that one time when someone brought Higher Dimensional Stuff -11D or 12D- and another when someone said that a phase of religion will contain the cosmology of the said religion. Is that true? 1st might be there since Toaru does implement weird Scientific facts from time to time, but the last is pushing considering how large some religious cosmology can become. Things like Hindusim and HP Lovecraft involve a large Cosmology.
 
The last part sounds stupid. They were afraid they would destroy The Verse, so they let Othinus complete her ritual. What's the point? Either way, you destroy the world. At least if you do it yourself, you will be alive. Also, is it possible for Members of the main phase to go to a higher phase like say phase of some religion? I know that reverse can be done since MG did come to Earth along with AS.
 
That's like one-year-old though? What's the point anyway. If it's recent I can understand but that's like old.
I'm not talking about the thread, I'm responding to what Xhom was saying.


Unknown, all we know is that religious Phases contains the homes of the gods/myths and legends, but it's an nlf to say they are one to one with rl religions, the phases Othinus was creating to torture Touma on the other hand were slightly altered versions of the physical universe.


The last part sounds stupid. They were afraid they would destroy The Verse, so they let Othinus complete her ritual. What's the point? Either way, you destroy the world. At least if you do it yourself, you will be alive.
But the Transcendants have no way to bring the world back unlike MG's, so what's the point of destroying it? And the transcendants were brought back when Othinus restored the world so being dead was a moot point


Also, is it possible for Members of the main phase to go to a higher phase like say phase of some religion? I know that reverse can be done since MG did come to Earth along with AS.
I don't think so, I'm pretty sure only MG's can do that.
 

That's not how speed works! For one mach 500 is a very low end for 20% Gun, he's most probably faster from the 7 seconds it took him to reach Makima from the coast and Full Power Gun is >>> 20% Gun seeing has how he can run around the planet in a few seconds.

And a mach 1 character would not be able to react to a mach 500 character, its literally 500x faster, The moment Gun gets into range he's gonna be filling Ainz's skull with 500 million bullets before Ainz even realizes he's there.
 

Headcanoning teleportation for Gun when its explicit that he uses speed to move.
 

@Xhominid the Fool what do you think?

Idk much about Svin except he can move faster than lighting but Shirou comfortably beats that, Rin's magecraft should also be better I think. The only one I'm not sure about is Flat cause of his true nature.
 

Honestly, the biggest obstacle is "I can literally cheat the entire Mage System because of my Ancestor trying to force in a Prime One" Flat.

Otherwise, it's basically an easy clear for Rin and Shirou.
 


1. EMIYA WAS taking it seriously, he was just at less than 1/5th of his actual power due to basically running off of Independent Action. Shirou explicitly was otherwise doing a pretty good job since you know, he was basically classified as having a foot in the grave by the time he "won" against EMIYA at that point.

2. That's not how that works. Bazett and Kotomine have enormous experience fighting Magi and would honestly kill the shit out of Svin and Flat for the same reasons, just because Magi Hunters run away from Svin and Flat doesn't mean anything on it's own.

3. Uh, Hypothetical Max Shirou was the Shirou who fought against Gilgamesh, his literal best self he can ever do...
 

I like how dude believed he made a good point but even The World told him he was full of shit because yeah:
(http://imgur.com/a/vE2oAsY)
Tokiomi was literally stating that the System they are in is basically a Galaxy, he's just saying it in a really roundabout way.
Somehow instead, he got it to believe that the entire Nasuverse equivalent of a Galaxy is just a Solar System that is called a Galaxy
 
You mean only MGs can go to other Phases?

Also not sure if calling the size of Phases a NLF is the right way to describe it, it's more just unfounded for the most part.

Though if full power Phase beings can destroy the universe just by existing in it, would that not make Phases that large or... durable I guess would be the word?
 
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You can just beat up Kiara before she's ready to start it up, especially since she has no feat for using it on beings that aren't inside her body.

I think you got that confused Siriel...
Kiara doesn't need you in her at all or anything for her main shit to work(Hell, it's ultimately something she had as a "normal" human to the point an assassin was sent after her who was supposed to be her absolute anti-thesis in every way... and he still died trying to save her). He's confusing the fact that Kiara was transforming SE.RA.PH into herself for her main ability to need to work on people when that's not how that works.

Yhwach might be screwed due to the Almighty showing it to him ahead of time though. Depends on which power overrides the other.

No, Yhwach is just fucked no matter what happens, there's no "if".
If Yhwach looks at her at all constantly, he will have to constantly battle checks and if he fails, his soul is hers.
Trying to fight her physically? Good luck with someone who has access to all of the Sakura Five's powers on top of someone on the level of a Boddhisvata whose Solar System+

Kama's clones are weak and if you kill the main Kama they all go down. The fact that the idea that they're all as good as the original is false is why she lost to a guy with a super-effective katana.

To say that is missing so much context is an understatement of the century and Siriel is continuing to be a fucking liar par excellence.
To start with, the main reason that Munenori Yagyu was able to easily kill Kama clones with a "super effective Katana" was due to the literal way Kama constructed her plan:

There's a reason the instant she cuts herself off from it, it takes literally repeating how she died against Shiva to kill her off.
So yeah, Siriel is a fucking liar, news at 11.

She also couldn't bring them out at sufficient speed to outpace said guy with a super-effective katana slicing through them, despite allegedly having a universe's worth.

Yeah, this is seriously that bullshit Siriel pulls to try and force shit away so he can try and pretend to be impartial when he isn't.
 
r s is the same guy who said that gun devils bullets are sub ton level and downplayed how fast mach 500 is.

And even he called bullshit
 
r s is the same guy who said that gun devils bullets are sub ton level and downplayed how fast mach 500 is.

And even he called bullshit

It's dumber because of the fact that in plenty of cases, the Shining Blue Galaxy is sometimes also called a Universe.
So trying to truncate it down because the NA Translation went with a completely roundabout way of saying it's a Galaxy rather than the "Milky Way System" like the Japanese version is pretty fucking stupid...

Especially as it shouldn't take a genius to realize that Tokiomi is literally saying that it's the same as how we call the Solar System... the Solar System.
So they call the Shining Blue Galaxy... the Galactic System because of that... sweet fucking jesus, it's even worse when you truly start thinking about it.
 
Medaka and Kumagawa everytime someone makes a thread with them against Yhwach

 

Mach 10 means something? EMIYA dodged a fucking Lightning Bolt by Medea he noticed at the last second in the UBW Manga.
He moves so fast, Rin and Kuzuki come off like statues to him.
Even at less than 1/5th of his overall power, Shirou was basically beaten within an inch of his life before Shirou "won"(And it wasn't even physically, it was just a test of wills.)
 
Mach 10 means something?
They’re fixated on Hrunting from HA
Even at less than 1/5th of his overall power, Shirou was basically beaten within an inch of his life before Shirou "won"(And it wasn't even physically, it was just a test of wills.)
That 1/10th his power nonsense needs context as taken as his muscular strength it’s bullshit as Kuzuki is a bridge between Artoria and Shirou and EMIYA’s not exactly on the winning end of a contest between himself and Saber. It’s clearly a stamina thing, as EMIYA’s not 10x a man that can catch a swing from Artoria barehanded.
 
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