Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[Derpmaster9000]

What an Itachi-stan from the earlier days that came and fled from the OBD would want you to believe.

They'd also want you to believe Itachi could do this to the Living Tribunal from Marvel too. Itachi-stans were some of the wildest, most deluded niggas I've ever seen in the vs community.

 

[Paxton]

Fused Momoshiki (Boruto) vs Lucifero (Black Clover)

Second thread for today. Fused Momoshiki (Boruto) He’s allowed feats and scaling from the manga and anime of Boruto. VS Lucifero (Black Clover) He’s allowed feats and scaling from the manga and anime of Black Clover. The battle takes place on an abandoned planet. They start 100...

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Sweet fucking lord, it really shows people have no goddamned idea of Black Clover and just assumes shit now.
>User literally states Lucifero's control over Gravity is so great, he crushes Fate and Concepts
> Momoshiki can just nuke him or eat his heart

Why yes, Lucifero does infact crush Fate.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Why yes, Lucifero does infact crush Fate.

He crushes the Index too :doge

 

[Paxton]

He crushes the Index too :doge

But Accelerator controls gravity. He just redirects it

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

But Accelerator controls gravity. He just redirects it

Lucifero shatters the concept of Redirection.

 

[Mondak]

Roronoa Zoro (One Piece) vs Byakuya Kuchiki (Bleach)

Lol he curbstomps Zoro. Have you seen some of the shit Bleach characters pulled off in the final arc? Zoro is too much of a physical fighter to deal with the sheer amount of hax Byakuya has by the end of the series. Maybe if it was SS arc Byakuya Zoro would have a chance.

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>Current Zoro might have a chance against SS arc Byakuya

 

[GregSteve]

What an Itachi-stan from the earlier days that came and fled from the OBD would want you to believe.

They'd also want you to believe Itachi could do this to the Living Tribunal from Marvel too. Itachi-stans were some of the wildest, most deluded niggas I've ever seen in the vs community.

 

[Paxton]

Kamijou Touma vs Shiro Emiya

Yes it can. She's doing hand motions and everything too. Othinus and Aliester both react to the attack too. And neither have precognition nor or infinite speed. Except Kamisato reached out, there's still a physical motion to read.

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..Since when did either of them react to it, huh?

 

[Paxton]

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) Vs Omniman (Invincible)

You mean the "supernova" that does fuck all to anything and leaves the entire battlefield intact once its over-the-top animation is over? I've never seen any compelling evidence to suggest this "feat" has any relation to reality.

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Because it takes place in an entirely different dimension like all summons do, dumbfuck.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) Vs Omniman (Invincible)

You mean the "supernova" that does fuck all to anything and leaves the entire battlefield intact once its over-the-top animation is over? I've never seen any compelling evidence to suggest this "feat" has any relation to reality.

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Because it takes place in an entirely different dimension like all summons do, dumbfuck.

I was going to talk about the Final Fantasy 7 Ultimania where the info is from... but I forgot something important...
DID THESE FUCKS MISS CRISIS CORE? OR BEFORE CRISIS? OR EVEN BLOODY ADVENT CHILDREN?




Hell, Before Crisis is extremely egregious for this as virtually the entire plot is that it was powering up someone to be Sephiroth-tier only for when it was unleashed to basically damn the World and the Player Turk destroys it.

Like fuck the other dimension nonsense, you are literally attacked by the Summons post-FFVII in the Compilation and they still have the same moves they use in their summons AGAINST YOU! Sephiroth even had to fight Ifrit if I'm right and bail Zack out.
Like you have to be brain-dead to basically pretend that their damage they can do is somehow limited when later games in the series and ESPECIALLY Final Fantasy IX explicitly implies the opposite:

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

And even if, even IF you want to say "But the battle is gameplay", the lore of what Materia are as a whole? That's not debatable because what IS Materia in FFVII lore exactly?

Materia (Final Fantasy VII)

To put it simply, the knowledge of the Ancients is sealed within each orb. That knowledge not only connects us to the planet...it allows us to tap into her power. That's how we can use magic, or so they say.Sephiroth Materia (マテリア, Materia?) is the main source of magic in the Final Fantasy VII...

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(Yeah, it's a wiki but what I'm going to pull from it is explicitly stated in the Kalm Flashback which is easily found there as well as actually backing up it's sources for the other info on what Materia is)

The knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients is held in the materia. Anyone with this knowledge can freely use the powers of the Land and the Planet. That knowledge interacts between ourselves and the planet calling up magic... or so they say.

Materia is crystallized mako. Metaphysically, materia calls upon the wisdom of the lifestream to manipulate nature manifesting as the phenomenon of magic for most materia, although other materia enhance the user's abilities. Unless one is descended from the Cetra, materia is the only way humans can use magic. When explaining how materia is created to Zack and Tifa on Mt. Nibel, Sephiroth mentions that he and Professor Hojo debated the nature of materia. Hojo objected to the term "magic" being applied to powers from materia, but could offer no better term.

In "Episode: Yuffie" of On the Way to a Smile, it is explained that to use a materia's power, a shock triggered by the user's mind waves is required. As a result the user's mind is weakened and frequent materia use without rest taxes their stamina.

Materia forms naturally at "mako springs", places where the lifestream leaks to the surface of Gaia and condenses, such as on Mt. Nibel. This is a rare occurrence, taking centuries for the mako to crystallize into materia, and in Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII- Shinra Electric Power Company scientists mention that most materia in use is artificially produced. It is never specified if natural materia has any appreciable difference in usage and power from artificial materia, but the White Materia, Black Materia, and the four Materia pieces found in the Materia Caves, are much stronger than other materia pieces in Final Fantasy VII, and in Crisis Core Genesis Rhapsodos believes that the Goddess Materia he has discovered has special properties.

So yeah, people who keep refuting that it's just gameplay can go fuck right off, Materia literally benefits you in many ways and it literally comes from the Lifestream which has been expanded upon to be just as nonsense as it was heavily implied in FFVII(as Sephiroth's entire plan was to gather all of the Lifestream in one place, absorb it and become a God, that's why he wanted to WOUND the Planet with Meteor)

EDIT: Hell, Dirge of Cerebus has Cloud outright state the reason they didn't use Materia in Advent Children and barely use Materia in Dirge of Cerebus is because it's heavily implied that Materia literally draws from the Lifestream itself to use their abilities and what happened in FFVII, it needs all the strength it has to repair the damage... fucking oops.

 

[Masterblack06]

Mira Yoo (God of highschool) vs Artoria Pendragon.

Post- Ragnarok Mira Artoria Pendragon without Avalon All bloodlusted in character. Knowledge: None Prep Time: None Equipment: Standard for all combatants Victory Condition: Death. Location: An Empty town Starting Distance: 20 Meters

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[Xhominid The Apex]

Mira Yoo (God of highschool) vs Artoria Pendragon.

Post- Ragnarok Mira Artoria Pendragon without Avalon All bloodlusted in character. Knowledge: None Prep Time: None Equipment: Standard for all combatants Victory Condition: Death. Location: An Empty town Starting Distance: 20 Meters

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Honestly, I don't even think they know how strong Mira Yoo is so at this point, I'm fucking confused on why they think she can defeat Artoria really.

 

[Paxton]

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) Vs Omniman (Invincible)

That Death Battle logic. Love it. So let me guess this straight. So The most powerful world ending attack in Comet is a huge deal and too much for Cloud and crew to fight against, needing the planet itself to intervene, but they can fight and survive super Nova attacks in another dimension...

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Yeah it's almost like the planet in FF7 is fuck off strong on top of the fact that Sephiroth doesn't even use Supernova UNTIL HE'S ABSORBED A GOOD CHUNK OF THE LIFESTREAM ALREADY.

Like come on.

 

[Paxton]

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) Vs Omniman (Invincible)

lol, it's from an entry on the official guidebook dude. And yeah, you got that right. Meteor isn't a random rock, it's literally described as the ultimate black magic of absolute destruction, which straight up regenerates even after being hit by Shinra Company's strongest weapon, which mind...

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Damn, this guy's spitting.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) Vs Omniman (Invincible)

That Death Battle logic. Love it. So let me guess this straight. So The most powerful world ending attack in Comet is a huge deal and too much for Cloud and crew to fight against, needing the planet itself to intervene, but they can fight and survive super Nova attacks in another dimension...

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Yeah it's almost like the planet in FF7 is fuck off strong on top of the fact that Sephiroth doesn't even use Supernova UNTIL HE'S ABSORBED A GOOD CHUNK OF THE LIFESTREAM ALREADY.

Like come on.

The answer to that is simple:
Spacebattle users don't actually like people bringing in facts and logic, it likes people bringing in things that make them feel better and root for.
It's clearly obvious that Meteor literally regenerated when the Rocket smashed into it because it's outright stated in the fucking cutscene that's what's happening. It is outright stated that Holy could stop Meteor but the Planet itself refused to do so and even helped it as it's seen Humans as a blight to it and wanted them dead(Which the Lifestream literally OVERCAME METEOR AND HOLY at the same time with help from Aerith, proving Ancients actually have a fair degree of control over this shit)

I don't even have to go to alternative material and neither did that guy because all of this is explained IN GAME.

And actually, Sephiroth didn't absorb any of the Lifestream canonically yet. Supernova is literally from him as a whole and Jenova.

 

[Paxton]

Frozen Fate | Ragna VS Nasuverse

Ragna is stronger but slower than 2nd form Kamui. They're still relatively close though, so he should slightly downscale to Kamui moving 100 km in a split second and slightly upscale to Kamui's multi mountain melting attack. He has a speed of light super technique capable of instant killing...

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..huh?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Frozen Fate | Ragna VS Nasuverse

Ragna is stronger but slower than 2nd form Kamui. They're still relatively close though, so he should slightly downscale to Kamui moving 100 km in a split second and slightly upscale to Kamui's multi mountain melting attack. He has a speed of light super technique capable of instant killing...

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..huh?

Some of that is actually true, Ragna is a monster but on the other hand, dude is vastly overplaying his abilities relative to Servants and again ignoring that Servants themselves are Lightspeed capable with reactions just as fast, if not faster than Ragna and even stronger than he is.

Even the "take away Mana" deal isn't even new to Servants and while it is effective, it's not enough to de-materialize a Servant instantly as Servants have a fuckton of Mana to work with(something SB never understands at all).

 

[Paxton]

Some of that is actually true, Ragna is a monster but on the other hand, dude is vastly overplaying his abilities relative to Servants and again ignoring that Servants themselves are Lightspeed capable with reactions just as fast, if not faster than Ragna and even stronger than he is.

Even the "take away Mana" deal isn't even new to Servants and while it is effective, it's not enough to de-materialize a Servant instantly as Servants have a fuckton of Mana to work with(something SB never understands at all).

Oh no I get all that but he said he could beat fucking Surtr

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Oh no I get all that but he said he could beat fucking Surtr

Ah yes, someone who has the same weapon on the class of Rhongomyniad, literally dusted the Nine Realms and failed attack on the Planet basically razed it all anyway and virtually made it uninhabitable but for 100,000 people...
It's like they look at Napoleon "blew his head off" with everything he had and Bryn and Sigurd doing enough damage to kill him = Surtr is weaksauce and ignore how that how that happened and why.