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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Man, that Yhwach vs Goetia thread makes me wish I wasn’t banned. Don’t give a fuck about arguing for Goetia but the double standards and exaggeration from the Yhwach side has been amazing entertainment just reading through
 
Man, that Yhwach vs Goetia thread makes me wish I wasn’t banned. Don’t give a fuck about arguing for Goetia but the double standards and hypocrisy from the Yhwach side has been amazing entertainment just reading through
The poster Yhwach has infected them with his madness
 
Man, that Yhwach vs Goetia thread makes me wish I wasn’t banned. Don’t give a fuck about arguing for Goetia but the double standards and hypocrisy from the Yhwach side has been amazing entertainment just reading through
The Belch-stans are a treat to read. :mjlol
 
The Belch-stans are a treat to read. :mjlol
I think my favorite one was

Time temple whatever from Goetia being “outside time” is unquantifiable along with them making other excuses so that time does exist in it and the Almighty should still work within it

Same poster goes on to than argue Yhwach affecting “infinite nothingness” of Garganta as a feat.

One Chad poster on there even pointed out their hypocrisy in using what would also clearly be an unquantifiable feat by Yhwach according to their standards their holding on Goetia as good as I would. Hats off to that user.

Now I’m just waiting for them or someone else to point out that Yhwach doing anything to Garganta is pure assumption xD

I don’t care for the outcome of this fight, but I hate seeing double standards this bad and love when it gets called out
 
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Garganta has walls, tunnels, and that supernatural street sweeper in the Dangai portion that Aizen killed making it up.

Not to mention an air current of Reishi that blows across Garganta too.

Boom, “infinite nothingness” is now hyperbole for the same reason the Time Temple existing outside time is also contradicted: Events happened in the time temple right? Well, matter clearly exists within the so-called infinite void too, going against that description too
 
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SB what the fuck is going on
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You know what? I'm feeling in the mood and I want to actually tackle Silentspring's latest rant as not just a Nasu fan... but a FAR bigger Bleach fan who isn't fucking retarded. I'll probably die before I finish this but let's do it, I'm excited:


Yikes.

I see Occam's Razor and common sense are not appreciated by all debaters here that truly believe Nasu's hypocrisy.

Hax is Hax.

This is the same guy who believes Technology has limits but Magic doesn't... in series in which there's no limit to what Technology can do...
Besides, Hax may be Hax but that doesn't mean Yhwach operates in Planck Instants.

It doesn't matter if Goetia or Yhwach can depopulate bazillion quintillion nonillion decillion worth of universes hypothetically. Supposing they are humans, the Death Note will kill them just fine.

What? No? The Death Note will only kill those who don't have any resistance to death or being able to alter Destny or whatever. This is also ignoring the Death Note ONLY works on Humans.

I repeat the Death Note will kill them JUST. FINE.

No it shouldn't, that's actually extreme wank on the Death Note to do that.

*Insert more retarded takes on believing the Death Note should work in general, no matter if it actually breaks the rules of the Death Note or if the target has Instant Death Resistance or can tell Fate to go fuck off here*

Powerlevel is only relevant in powerscaling metaphysical worlds like Dragon Ball Z where enough Ki will let you shit on anything your lower power level opponents will do to you provided you just don't help them with your own execution, of course.

A classic error of Spacebattlers is to borrow Dragon Ball Z powerscaling mechanics and apply it to everything, especially threads like this where one side has at maximum planetary earthquake level damage dealing kinetic force projection and the other side has 3000 years of human history burning in the form of 1 full Earth's worth of crust transformed into fuel per second in that period of time converted and amassed by a very patient farmer to fuel his time travel to 4.3 billion years back into the past.

Okay, this is a fucking take!... and this is wrong anyway because Bleach and The Nasuverse? Are precisely the same as Dragonball in that powerlevels really do matter(Having more than enough Magical Energy can allow you to brute force shit, that's why Illya, Dark Sakura and Tine are so damn powerful) so this entire deal makes no sense.

I understand people get all "woah!" when looking at big numbers and are suitably impressed. I'm impressed too and I would be lying if I wasn't.

However, does the farmer's ability to amass enough energy to travel back to the past of the newly created Earth matter directly versus the other guy's woefully small destruction spread between 3 or 4 planetary surfaces matter in a fight that will be decided by hax?

Uh... yes? If it takes 3 seconds to activate your hax and someone can run across the Planet in 5 Microseconds, would the hax matter then? If The Farmer with a Shotgun has a Shotgun that can obliterate entire Solar Systems but otherwise moves far slower than the other guy who has smaller destruction capability but is faster to activating his hax, the speed difference matters more than the hax.

Are these gentlemen - farmer and fuhrer - going to go DBZ on each other? In that case it's obvious the farmer will win the beam spam/telekinesis force projection fight.

Are they instead going to use their low IQ brains to apply their hax on each other in the pursuit of getting a far faster and cleaner kill? Seems more likely than wasting their resources trying to one up each other in a damage dealing fight.

If it's incharacter for them to immediately use their hax then yes, yes they would use their hax first. HOWEVER, if it's not incharacter for them to use their hax first, then it shouldn't be pretended it's something they would use first. Ironically, Yhwach has shown every time he will NOT use his hax first unless he's pushed into it majorly.

Another thing Goetia fans forget is how he himself said how patient he was, waiting all those 3000 years outside the flow of time in his Temple, farming for mana.

If Goetia's TT was really timeless and didn't give a rat's ass about the normal flow of time, pray tell me how and WHY WOULD HE WAIT ALL THOSE 3000 YEARS INSIDE HIS SUPPOSEDLY TIMELESS TIME TEMPLE?????????????

Goetia has Clairvoyance which can see into the Past, Present and Future. He is Solomon's system and technically the First Servant ever created, he went nuts because he used his Clairvoyance and seen the despair of Humanity and what The Foreign God ultimately did. You mean to tell me he can't tell by doing simple shit like count the time difference since he can multiple frames of time simultaneously?

What the fuck is this logic? No. Really. What the fuck?! :wtf:

A place removed from TIME ought to give him INSTANTANEOUS ACCESS TO FUNCTIONALLY UNLIMITED TIME!!!!! In such a case he could have HARVESTED those 3000 years worth of energy literally instantly! He would have created the temple, entered it and exited it right afterwards and boom 3000 years have passed in an instant while he was in his Time Temple!

My goodness gracious!

Literal timeless places where time doesn't flow are absolutely alien places for a human being to exist in. The Past-Present-Future causality chain, the very Space-time continuum itself and LITERALLY ALL THE RULES OF OUR PHYSICS THAT RELY ON PROPER TIME's FLOW completely gone kaput and voided away would not allow a human being to experience anything like in a normal Earth environment! How the fuck are atoms supposed to function in a place devoid of time??? Quarks, gluons, HOLY FUCK what about Probability itself??? Quantum Fluctuation rely on lengthy TIME scales to do their magic! Without the concept of time itself reality as we know it would cease to exist and Fujimaru Ritsuka's self ought to become impossible to form.

Mother of Satan. It really is like talking to a brick wall.

Dude, if he thinks this shit is impossible, his brain would break seeing Ultimecia's Time Compression in FFVIII. He's making something so hilariously simple into something so retardedly complicated that I'm just grinning ear to ear over how insane this is.

Simple concepts based on simple, common sense, Occam's razor rational arguments relying on pure observations as per the doctrine of the scientific method. I am not a veteran lawyer, researcher, or data scientist but c'mon!

Will you take Nasu's spoken prose literally? When it is instantly decimated by the start of the chronological events in the time temple fight itself?

So... we shouldn't take Nasu's "Spoken Prose" literally... but we should take Kubo's "spoken prose" literally? This dude is trying to have it both ways and it's so fucking hilarious.

Explain how Mash shielded Master from Goetia's attack when she was already dead, simultaneously dead, wasn't dead, in that timeless place?

Explain how Goetia was at full power when Solomon had already sacrificed himself?

Explain why Fou had to resurrect Mash when Mash wasn't dead owing to it being a timeless place where states of being obviously don't matter since a place devoid of temporal axis can't create and separate events itself from happening?

How can any event occur in a place where the axis of time itself doesn't exist?

Electricity in the neurons let cognition occur. Current requires TIME to flow.

Yep, called it. He's literally thinking this is now like Ultimecia's Time Compression... and even going with the retarded take that without time, nothing can happen when that's not what Time IS.
For fuck's sake, see someone going into a Black Hole's Horizon and time will virtually stop for them but not for anyone else. Time is not required for Events to happen, Events can happen irregardless of Time itself, for fuck's sake.

And I just realised I'm wasting time explaining extremely basic concepts we all learnt in highschool about space-time and electricity in the brain.

And your ass needs to go back to High School as this shit is a fucking disgrace. Space-Time has nothing to do with Events happening, you fucking donkey. Video games having things happen within the concept of a Time Crash knows this shit better than you do!
 
stumbled on a keishin classic


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Unicron next :mjgrin
 
stumbled on a keishin classic


Unicron next :mjgrin
>Othinus gets eaten by 2 different niggas on the same day
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OH MY GOD these idiots are back to this Giselle He/She argument. :kobeha
God knows how some of these people would treat trans people in reality.

Not that anyone would expect better from anime fans.
Because not caring about what a FICTIONAL character identifies, is totally the same thing as doing it to a real person. :hestonpls
 
Yeah, Yhwach wins.

I understand now how everyone who debates against Fate Goetia wank feels now.

Yhwach wins. I was trying to even both sides by applying Occam's razor for both sides to give both sides a fair battle based on OP's take on the fight but yeah. Nope.

I take it back.

Yhwach wins because he has Almighty. Almighty can nullify anything Yhwach observes. Yhwach as Soul King has control over all the major realities in Bleach that are separated from each other in a void of nothingness. His Almighty Soul KIng power lets him project his power across all three realities and let's him remake the Bleachverse itself back into it's original form. For defence, he has stolen back the ability of The Balance from Jugram and also possesses The Miracle ability. The former lets him send back all misfortune including physical damage back to the enemy who attacked him and the latter lets him overcome nigh-impossible odds, like say, an attack from a Beast playing time-travel assassin?

>WAAAAAH! How dare people not take me seriously and accept my Yhwach wank with grace!? Now I'll go and wank him even harder than ever before, that'll show them!

Bruh, this fucking dude couldn't prove shit that Yhwach can affect the Garganta and he has still shown no proof. And now suddenly he's going all in with the "Yhwach using Sternritter abilities" when that's something he never used in canon either...

Goetia kills Yhwach in the past and that misfortune befells Present Yhwach who automatically has the Balance shift all that inconvenience back to the unknown attacker who is of course an incredibly annoyed Goetia. Yhwach then uses the Miracle to note how impossible it seems locating his enemy would be and then overcomes those odds and finds the location of the Time Temple MIRACULOUSLY. Whereupon Yhwach laments how nigh-impossible getting into his enemy's domain would be and voila. He finds himself inside the Time Temple, once again, MIRACULOUSLY.

Haschwalth explicitly still needs to be alive for The Balance to work, he outright stated he needs to be alive for it to work. The Miracle requires Gerard to be alive in some capacity, even when Adult Hitsu from his into a statue and Byakuya destroyed his head and he died when Yhwach absorbed his soul.
Goetia? Can deal with both of those.

And then proceeds to steal everything not nailed down axiomatically to Goetia.

Millions of Excaliburs worth of mana? Yoink.
Hive mind minions made of his body? Yoink.
Noble Phantasm power made Time Timple? Yoink.

We have literally seen Yhwach can't steal conceptual shit nor can he steal people, what makes you think he can subjugate a 72 Conglomerate of Demon God Pillars and the 72 DGP's, the AAS's and his Time Temple?

Yoink. Yoink. Yoink. and more Yoink. The Almighty Steal Works doesn't stop until Goetia has got nothing on his person.

Poor Goetia. He tries to do something but Yhwach is so infuriating. Everytime he does something bad to Yhwach, the Balance returns it back to him. The Miracle resurrects Yhwach from complete atomisation. He comes back bigger, stronger, faster, more durable, tanks more light bands to his face easily without even trying to nullify it all with his Almighty or even change the future into one where Goetia's power - all of it - is broken permanently. Like he did to Ichigo's Bankai.

Soul King Yhwach wins easily, all said and done. Goetia has literally zero chance of beating him.

Man, this is so embarrassing it hurts. And the fact this dude got 2 likes from this shows how desperate SB Bleach fans are to have anyone support their retarded King to win this :oldryoma
 
OH MY GOD these idiots are back to this Giselle He/She argument. :kobeha

Because not caring about what a FICTIONAL character identifies, is totally the same thing as doing it to a real person. :hestonpls
Heres the thing, I wouldnt care what the person identified as

because i would treat them like a person REGARDLESS. their gender matters not.
 
OH MY GOD these idiots are back to this Giselle He/She argument. :kobeha

Because not caring about what a FICTIONAL character identifies, is totally the same thing as doing it to a real person. :hestonpls

Again, Giselle is the last person you want to pull this shit with considering the transgressions he's done and how absolutely fucked he is. Like leave it the fuck alone.
 
Heres the thing, I wouldnt care what the person identified as

because i would treat them like a person REGARDLESS. their gender matters not.

And Giselle is a fucking depraved monster, why the hell should I respect his pronouns when Kubo stated Giselle is a boy? Especially when Giselle was only mad when Yumichika and that Arrancar referred to Giselle reeking of semen? Not actually calling him a boy straight up.


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Sorry, I was on a Silentspring run to see how fast he would tank me liking Bleach but yeah, Othinus gets 2 pieced real fast.
 
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