Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[Paxton]

Reinhard Heydrich(Dies Irae) vs Ollerus(Toaru) vs Yhwach(Bleach)

I'd argue that if you think Ollerus powers as an incomplete magic god include manipulating the world through magic (it should, given his description), then he can just stop time around the Longinus like Ren did. This Reinhard is weaker than the one Ren fought because he's not emanating. Also...

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Hmm...

 

[Masterblack06]

Reinhard Heydrich(Dies Irae) vs Ollerus(Toaru) vs Yhwach(Bleach)

I'd argue that if you think Ollerus powers as an incomplete magic god include manipulating the world through magic (it should, given his description), then he can just stop time around the Longinus like Ren did. This Reinhard is weaker than the one Ren fought because he's not emanating. Also...

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Hmm...

Dies Irae

 

[Paxton]

Quetzalcoatl (FGO) vs Platinum Sperm (OPM)

Confused pretty sure all servants, including Quetzalcoatl are glass canons compared to their NPS, as in, they do not scale to their NP unless you think someone like Saber can tank her own Excalibur Blast or her sword swings have the same force as her Excalibur Blast. There's a reason a...

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fucking lol

 

[Paxton]

I think he's saying that Kingu wasn't using their full power against Quetz in Babylonia which is just fucking what???


Yeah, it was some weird shit that happened when Mori did his perfect circle kick. Nothing shows that it's replicable at all.

What kind of powers did he even get from it anyway?

 

[Masterblack06]

Uvogin vs Yujiro Hanma

Both bloodlusted Round 1 Uvo had knowledge and Yujiro doesn't Round 2 both have knowledge

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[Adamant soul]

Oetsu Nimaiya vs. Bankai Kenpachi

Kenpachi's body won't explode; he's capped to his feats against Gerard. Oetsu can't take over Kenny's zanpakuto Who wins? :hm Round Two: if too easy for Oetsu, give Kenpachi RG Byakuya. If too easy for Kenpachi, give Oetsu Kirinji

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3 Pages?
People saying Oetsu NEEDS to take Kenpachi's Zanpaktou to win as if he couldn't just kill him straight up. ha

 

[Flowering Knight]

Meridia (The Elder Scrolls) runs an analog horror gauntlet

As a Daedric Prince and with no Towers to restrict her, she can initiate a Planemeld and pull the worlds of the verses into her realm of Oblivion, the Colored Rooms, as one of her bigger power moves. In the Elder Scrolls Online, she was said to be strong enough to destroy Nirn during Molag...

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Could someone remind me what makes Daedric Princes and the like multiversal(+?, possibly more iirc) again?

One thing that puts them at that level comes from being comparable to Sotha Sil and the Clockwork City, which itself holds several layers of infinite universes. Also something about these universes having infinite universes of their own but I'm not sure on that part. Not to mention other planets within Mundus (with the exception of Nirn) are actually infinite universes themselves. Oblivion is on a layer much higher than any of them. Multiversal+ is the low end for Daedric Princes. It just so happens that we use said low end because it's the most concrete. Not that other interpretations are wrong, especially with out cracked out the cosmology is, but because there's less "wiggle room" for said low end than with other interpretations.

I'm tired af right now please understand what I mean and not what I'm actually typing

 

[Adamant soul]

RG Shikai Rukia vs these characters

Selected at random; Shinigami listed start with Shikai. Tsukishima Shinji Base Yama (no Zan release) Rose Baraggan TYBW Soifon Shikai Ginjo Can she clear or win any?

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RG Rukia clearing a guantlet that includes fucking Base Yamamoto. ha

You're not understanding how Absolute Zero. Yamamoto himself would literally become ice, he's not being frozen. There's no way he survives that, Shinigami have no special protection or recuperative ability.

What the fuck is Mar talking about? That is NOT how absolute zero works at all. You don't magically TURN INTO ice, you're still ultimately just being frozen (just on a molecular level), which can be broken out of the sae as any other ice-based ability.

What is this desperation to pretend Absolute Zero is inherently some sort of hax? Especially when the manga itself doesn't treat it that way, or would you kindly explain how the hell As Nodt was still conscious, thinking and able to "break out" after supposedly being turned into ice?

 

[Cryso Agori]

What kind of powers did he even get from it anyway?

None, all he did was 'fuse' with the world with Mubong, (More like sending himself and Mubong into another dimension) where they had their final fight.

 

[Paxton]

None, all he did was 'fuse' with the world with Mubong, (More like sending himself and Mubong into another dimension) where they had their final fight.

So all that karmic erasure/immortality/causality/law shit that guy on Comicvine said he can do is cap?

Damn, who would've seen that coming.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Quetzalcoatl (FGO) vs Platinum Sperm (OPM)

Confused pretty sure all servants, including Quetzalcoatl are glass canons compared to their NPS, as in, they do not scale to their NP unless you think someone like Saber can tank her own Excalibur Blast or her sword swings have the same force as her Excalibur Blast. There's a reason a...

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fucking lol

Actually, Servants CAN tank their own Noble Phantasms and have shown to take bullshit before and live despite nearly dying(Artoria got cut in half by Heracles in the Prologue of F/SN and she was still able to move and fight, she also took a fraction of Ea at damn near full strength when we have seen what it does when it's barely activated, Medea literally got her body shredded by gravity and she was still alive(And in another route literally GoB'd for like 15 seconds and was still conscious enough to keep herself alive till she couldn't).

It's pure Spacebattles bullshit that Servants are "defensively weak" when we have seen Servants can shrug off getting hit by Noble Phantasms that can literally put holes in them(Like Asterios and Blackbeard did when Hektor stabbed them with Durandia multiple times in Okeanos Turas Realta).

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Like this doesn't even make sense when you use Quetzalcoatl for that example:

She palmed her own Piedra Del Sol, which if we go by our standards for how that shit works, Solar Winds can go up to 1 million Celsius and she gathers enough of them at once to create a miniature sun.
She THEN IMPLANTS THAT MINIATURE SUN IN HERSELF and does a Rider Kick that would make the creator proud and was STILL ALIVE IN THE END OF THE DAY despite putting everything into that attack and should be damaged by her own Sun.

So yeah, that's a dumbass question to say that a Servant can die to their own Noble Phantasm when the only time that happens is if the Servant is sacrificing themselves and explicitly overloading EVERYTHING(Noble Phantasm, Spirit Core and their Origin all at once) because I don't remember anyone else dying to their own Noble Phantasm and Servants like Xiang Yu have literally taken them to the chin with no damage whatsoever.

 

[Paxton]

Actually, Servants CAN tank their own Noble Phantasms and have shown to take bullshit before and live despite nearly dying(Artoria got cut in half by Heracles in the Prologue of F/SN and she was still able to move and fight, she also took a fraction of Ea at damn near full strength when we have seen what it does when it's barely activated, Medea literally got her body shredded by gravity and she was still alive(And in another route literally GoB'd for like 15 seconds and was still conscious enough to keep herself alive till she couldn't).

It's pure Spacebattles bullshit that Servants are "defensively weak" when we have seen Servants can shrug off getting hit by Noble Phantasms that can literally put holes in them(Like Asterios and Blackbeard did when Hektor stabbed them with Durandia multiple times in Okeanos Turas Realta).

Quetzalcoatl (FGO) vs Platinum Sperm (OPM)

Beginning of series Genos (mountain level) is literally fodder to even base Carnage Kabuto. https://imgur.com/a/YaPrYVk https://imgur.com/a/jQpCQlT Superalloy Darkshine beats Carnage Mode Carnage Kabuto in 15 minutes without receiving any injuries. https://youtu.be/cNeAT3sahkU?t=767 Golden...

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[Xhominid The Apex]

Quetzalcoatl (FGO) vs Platinum Sperm (OPM)

Beginning of series Genos (mountain level) is literally fodder to even base Carnage Kabuto. https://imgur.com/a/YaPrYVk https://imgur.com/a/jQpCQlT Superalloy Darkshine beats Carnage Mode Carnage Kabuto in 15 minutes without receiving any injuries. https://youtu.be/cNeAT3sahkU?t=767 Golden...

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I feel like they have no idea how to scale because yeah, Genos couldn't do anything to Carnage Kabuto... they are acting as if that makes Carnage Kabuto like 50x stronger than Genos when the difference would be Carnage Kabuto would probably be City+.

This is also funny because it was stated that Servants can effortlessly wipe out entire towns and cities while fighting(And we get that multiple times with Fergus, Karna and Arjuna in Turas Realta America and see it first hand) and we get Fergus destroying an entire Island and threatening the entire America Singularity by destroying it.

I just find it funny because it's the equivalent of just throwing shit around and say "It makes more sense than this" but not realize that's not how debating works... but it IS Spacebattles, after all.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/ger-jojos-vs-yhwach.1274857/


god dammit accountmaker lol

 

[Paxton]

Team Grand Servants (FGO) vs Team Gotei 13 Captains (Bleach)

Orion Orkos nullifies the defenses of demons and demonic beasts, none of the Captains are either. Still can't beat Yamamoto. And Sui Feng's Shikai can also insta-kill enemies. Too weak, does nothing. They don't need any of those to win.

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[Paxton]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/ger-jojos-vs-yhwach.1274857/


god dammit accountmaker lol

GER vs Yhwach vs Touma

 

[Paxton]

Son Goku (Composite [all versión]) vs Creation Trio (Pokémon)

The Creation Trio have no speed feats. They don't have defensive ones either. Or even AP ones. Their hax are all they have. And people don't like the sub-meteor thing but that's the only metric those guys get. You might not like it, but there's more evidence of them being squishy wizards with...

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bruh

Who's the Pokemon expert here again?

Because I distinctly recall stuff like Arceus nuking a galaxy by waking up and Dialga/Palkia creating/destroying space-times just as a side-effect of their blows going against each other?

 

[OtherGalaxy]

GER vs Yhwach vs Touma

 

[Cryso Agori]

So all that karmic erasure/immortality/causality/law shit that guy on Comicvine said he can do is cap?

Damn, who would've seen that coming.

Yeah, all Jin does is say he's gonna destroy the karmic cycle... by beating Mubong. It's not some causality shit.

Though for law manip Mubong did do some sort of concept/law shit to stop the arks, I'll see if I can find it. Jin may be able to do it but he didn't show the feats.