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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4: Outskirts Ningen Dome - Laughing edition

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@Paxton Im just thinking of that one Toaru vs Nasuverse thread on SB from over half a decade ago some Fate nerd randomly decided to bump by writing a whole essay for why the Nasuverse wins…

…just for them to list off DxD characters and thinking the thread was Nasuverse vs Highschool DxD

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Yes, unless you take the statements that everyone from Artemis and beyond can apparently planet bust yet be contended with and injured by regular Servants at face value.

I will only answer this specifically from Devoid Ruby though because it's a special kind of stupid and I love pointing out special kind of stupid posts:

1. The High Tiers and above being able to Planet Bust isn't even in question anymore, it's explicitly stated they can, there's no otherwise about it. Anyone who says otherwise completely misunderstood why Da Vinci stated that they cannot Planet Burst EARTH as they somehow think "Planet" is suddenly Plural when it's not(Especially in the context that it's Moriarty's plan to blow up EARTH)

2. Unless you are blind and retarded, Artemis and the game itself straight out states that Artemis' cannon can blow up Planets, that is literally her main function, her creation's purpose:
Description of the Attack here and the video version here.
TL;DR: It should be obvious by the original name of Machine God Artemis but she's an Interstellar Battle Cruiser that is meant to destroy Interstellar Ships and even destroy Planets by tearing through them or straight out gouging them out.

Here, it's stated by Odysseus that Artemis is built to destroy Planets(Which makes sense as he is the leader of the Atlantis Army to know that about Artemis)

"But Xhominid, she only blew up Islands" and I can tell you that you didn't bother to read because in Olympus:
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The game explicitly spells it out that Atlantis is a False Texture to Olympus's being the true face of the Lostbelt(This is why the characters even mention that the Tree of Emptiness they see in Atlantis is an illusion, a fake and why you literally see Stars in Olympus, you aren't underground in the slightest) meaning that's why the Islands never filled in after she blew them full of holes and it's all but implied by Artemis she did it far more than the 3 times we've seen her canonically do so(Yet the water very clearly isn't going away at all...).

So yeah, it's a real dumb way to disprove her when the story explicitly takes that into account.

3. Artemis got injured by a Divine Construct reconstructed by Hephaestus to hurt her... this is like saying "Goku got hurt by a weapon created with a core of 3 thousand suns within it and can slice through molecules like butter" and say Goku is now Sword level due to it. Weapons. Matter. Or do they suddenly don't because Naruto characters can get hurt by Kunai, Shuriken and Swords too? Because I remember in Naruto Gaiden, Naruto got cut while in his KCM2 mode by Sasuke because the villain of that side story used his magnetism to control the sword...
I don't give a damn how "out of shape" Naruto is, that doesn't even make sense in context of what we've seen the shroud take but we ignore that because it's stupid, so why also remove the context here?
 
Nasuverse : Characters that are not even Servants can affect/ create/blow up Galaxy lvl shit and above

Nardoverse: Nowhere near that.

Spergers : BuT SeRvAnTs aRe SoBa NoOdLe LvLs.

Cool shit. Always love to see it.
 
I could legit understand if they primarily don't do what they usually do and instead just have no idea of the Nasuverse property and primarily listened to others when they say shit like that... but they don't have that excuse.

It's just funny when they later on state that Ninjas have issues being Supersonic(Which always seems to fly out the window when "lolbijuudama" comes up) and die to Kunai, Shuriken and Swords when propping up another series or consistently stay on Kishimoto's extremely stupid Guns > Ninjas deal(Which again, doesn't make sense and if anything, Ninjas would very, very much use Guns as they are primarily ASSASSINS. Atleast just say it doesn't fit the motif).
I mean it's still nowhere near as bad as The Wankmighty... but nothing will ever be as bad as The Wankmighty.
 
I think the closest we get are Kamui users who could banish most enemies and their attacks to another realm but even that maxes out once attacks get to be bigger than the 10 tails can dish out. But yes someone like Obito could solo most servants and 10 tails Obito could solo them all if one at a time and maybe even make a stand against a few more powerful opponents via his special powers but even he isn't going to go top teir.

I suppose reanimated madara with infinite chakra and regen (or any other reanimated shinobi) could win by fiat as they are immortal undead and indestructible but if they also can't put down the nasoverse top tiers it's not like they are actually WINNING....
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I could legit understand if they primarily don't do what they usually do and instead just have no idea of the Nasuverse property and primarily listened to others when they say shit like that... but they don't have that excuse.

It's just funny when they later on state that Ninjas have issues being Supersonic(Which always seems to fly out the window when "lolbijuudama" comes up) and die to Kunai, Shuriken and Swords when propping up another series or consistently stay on Kishimoto's extremely stupid Guns > Ninjas deal(Which again, doesn't make sense and if anything, Ninjas would very, very much use Guns as they are primarily ASSASSINS. Atleast just say it doesn't fit the motif).
I mean it's still nowhere near as bad as The Wankmighty... but nothing will ever be as bad as The Wankmighty.
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mention that Hercules could block Surtr's punch?
Herc's whole thing is "breaking past ones limit" in extreme circumstances, his usual output is nowhere near that level.

Remind me who in Naruto can do this?
Why would they need to get into physical contact with surtr when they can just blow him up with a BD rasenshuriken, indra's arrow, ETSB etc.
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Will they even see him?
 
What I find seriously funny about Devoid Ruby downplaying so damn hard... is that most of the examples they are using aren't only wrong, they are terrible because literally reading it out completely goes against the downplay on every aspect.
Let's take Poseidon:
Poseidon - Also has no durability feats suggesting Servants couldn’t harm him.

This is wrong as it's stated Poseidon has an extremely strong shield you just cannot penetrate easily and the only one who did... was Francis Drake and no one has any idea how she did it past "Pioneer of the Stars" and basically getting one over Poseidon in her living life(no seriously though to be fair, he was barely a Divine Spirit at that point) meaning she gets advantage like that.
There's also the fact that Poseidon losing that Divine Core literally turned him insane, cursed Drake that she would instantly die if she stepped onto the sea AND wrecked her Spirit Origin beyond repair.

The Machine Gods is even worse:

The machine gods - And they were all harmed and injured by our Klironomia amped Servants or even just regular old Caenis.

Yeah, I remember differently...
Machine God Artemis: No amount of Klironmia would have been enough to bridge the gap, needed a Divine Construct and a Grand to even wield the thing as the other bowman couldn't even pull the string.

Machine God Demeter: lol at believing Caenis did fucking anything to her, she barely disabled her healing and she was STILL overhealing even then. We pretty much had to move heaven and earth and get lucky with the Black Barrel completion to kill her.

Machine God Aphrodite: Needed Caligula(his NP to be precise) to counteract her Authority, needed a flying vessel to get to her and... oh yeah, we needed Golden Huge Bear(which is created from Ares' Remains) to even keep her around and open and still the Black Barrel at that.

Did Ruby confuse them for the guards? And even with the Nanomachines, they would have gotten back up eventually or if Zeus/Demeter healed them.
 

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Will they even see him?

If King Hassan wants you to see him, you are already dead. It's plain and simple.
 
What I find seriously funny about Devoid Ruby downplaying so damn hard... is that most of the examples they are using aren't only wrong, they are terrible because literally reading it out completely goes against the downplay on every aspect.
Let's take Poseidon:


This is wrong as it's stated Poseidon has an extremely strong shield you just cannot penetrate easily and the only one who did... was Francis Drake and no one has any idea how she did it past "Pioneer of the Stars" and basically getting one over Poseidon in her living life(no seriously though to be fair, he was barely a Divine Spirit at that point) meaning she gets advantage like that.
There's also the fact that Poseidon losing that Divine Core literally turned him insane, cursed Drake that she would instantly die if she stepped onto the sea AND wrecked her Spirit Origin beyond repair.

The Machine Gods is even worse:



Yeah, I remember differently...
Machine God Artemis: No amount of Klironmia would have been enough to bridge the gap, needed a Divine Construct and a Grand to even wield the thing as the other bowman couldn't even pull the string.

Machine God Demeter: lol at believing Caenis did fucking anything to her, she barely disabled her healing and she was STILL overhealing even then. We pretty much had to move heaven and earth and get lucky with the Black Barrel completion to kill her.

Machine God Aphrodite: Needed Caligula(his NP to be precise) to counteract her Authority, needed a flying vessel to get to her and... oh yeah, we needed Golden Huge Bear(which is created from Ares' Remains) to even keep her around and open and still the Black Barrel at that.

Did Ruby confuse them for the guards? And even with the Nanomachines, they would have gotten back up eventually or if Zeus/Demeter healed them.
He/She also says that ORT can be injured by mid tier servants despite all they did is injuring basically equivalent of ORT's hair. ORT's true body iirc is only "damaged" by 3 things
1. Beni alter's concept of death
2. Tepeu's MEoDP (after the former)
3. Excalibur ray blast (with U-olga's help)
And even then ORT adapts with the former 2.


Frankly I don't see Narutoverse wins against any Lostbelts (minus the 1 & 3) as well as any other Nasu's cosmic threats like Amaterasu or Sefar or any Types
 
He/She also says that ORT can be injured by mid tier servants despite all they did is injuring basically equivalent of ORT's hair. ORT's true body iirc is only "damaged" by 3 things
1. Beni alter's concept of death
2. Tepeu's MEoDP (after the former)
3. Excalibur ray blast (with U-olga's help)
And even then ORT adapts with the former 2.


Frankly I don't see Narutoverse wins against any Lostbelts (minus the 1 & 3) as well as any other Nasu's cosmic threats like Amaterasu or Sefar or any Types

The problem is that either Ruby doesn't know that or Ruby does and is explicitly being an ass. Either answer I can honestly believe.
And to be frank, I don't think they'll past the Singularities to begin with. Singularity F is already a powerhouse to begin with and it gets worse from there.
 
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