Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4: Outskirts Ningen Dome - Laughing edition

[Adamant soul]

Alphamon vs Imperialdramon Paladin Mode

Who wins

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what in the fuck is paladin mode supposed to do to fucking alphamon composite or not?

Weird and all but the Imperialdramon sword is insta-kill.

But by feats Alphamon should be stronger of course, but there shouldn't be that much difference in stats as he is the founder of the RK and Imperialdramon literally uses the combined power of the second strongest RK (Omegamon).

It is one of those Digis that should be one of the most powerful of all but that we all forget because of its few appearances.

It's also worth noting that Imperialdramon PM has the same "only shows up when it's needed" requirement as Alphamon does and the fact that it hasn't shown up as much COULD imply superiority to Alphamon but that's still shaky at best.

Feat wise, it's definitely in Alphamon's favor while Paladin Mode is pretty much entirely reliant on hype.

 

[Qinglong]

@Crimson Dragoon still better than being middle management magnamon

 

[OtherGalaxy]

child level giants

 

[shiny]

Can Naruto/Boruto verse compete with Nasuverse in power? SPOILERS!

Gonna ignore the rest of the convo and focus on this. So uh. Outside of night 1 of Fate and HF when has Heracles ever, ever, Ever been considered strong for a top tier servant? Everytime he fights he gets destroyed. Artoria destroys him in UBW while being crippled by Shirou. Salter destroys him...

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Gonna ignore the rest of the convo and focus on this.
So uh. Outside of night 1 of Fate and HF when has Heracles ever, ever, Ever been considered strong for a top tier servant?
Everytime he fights he gets destroyed. Artoria destroys him in UBW while being crippled by Shirou. Salter destroys him in HF. Gilg's enter threat is introduced on the basis that he can negative-effort dumpster Hercules. In an anti-feat for the both of them. He manages to die to Emiya six, times. Not once or thrice, but six times.

Tbh compared to real top tiers that aren't overly reliant on their NP to cheese wins. Heracules has consistently been shown to be an impotent beatstick that can't kill them and at best stalemates after losing a life or two. The only time when he does anything vaguely impressive for high tier servant standards is night 1 of Fate/HF where he does unironically and straight up beat an Artoria whose had both of her legs figuratively crippled and both arms metaphorically tied behind her back. Given her entire schtick is being a mana engine going BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR stuck with Shirou.

This same Artoria with a favorable battleground and overwatch support beats Hercules btw.

Hercules is a complete weakling at everything except being a meatshield. His constant anti-feats speak for themselves.

 

[Type-Rey]

Yeah , remember when Rin used her barn busting gems to damage him ?

What a looser.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Rin's gems can only destroy just that small area, case closed...
Now close your eyes and pretend it's not similar when we point out the Rasengan or Rasenshuriken.

 

[Blade]

wooden door level elric
roof level seiya
hammer level silver surfer
sword level general radahn

there is also bullet level ac cloud, its an old gem, but is based on the scene, where some posters from a certain forum were saying, that cloud survived this

only cuz of his googles and not cuz of his superhuman powers















ps: the dudes who cloud fight here, are sephiroth's remnants, and they superior to large planet+/mftl chars

 

[OtherGalaxy]

bullet level Cloud is definitely part of the group i dont think i was around for that though

 

[Blade]

Superman has never destroyed a building under his own power

Athlete level.

comicvine has also another good one, with dceu cavil supes

 

[Paxton]

comicvine has also another good one, with dceu cavil supes

 

[Blade]

in the first movie, during his final fight with zod

they were punching each other trough multiple skyscrapers and almost razed 85% of the city with their clash

> never destroyed a building on his own


peak cv logic

 

[Paxton]

Xeranthemum (Suggsverse) vs Featherine Augustus Aurora (Umineko)

Random Suggsverse fodder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything in Umineko I don’t make the rules They’re both mid

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[Blade]

featherine can't defeat omniversal janitors, its true

let her fight instead, slightly weaker chars, like serious ben grimm instead, smh

 

[Adamant soul]

Can Naruto/Boruto verse compete with Nasuverse in power? SPOILERS!

Can Naruto/Boruto top tiers compete with Nasuverse top tiers in power? What tier would Naruto/Boruto top tiers be in the Nasuverse? Rules: Manga, game, VN, anime feats for both sides Bonus Round: Who is the weakest Nasu character who could 1v1 Naruto/Boruto characters? Rules: win by death or...

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Gonna ignore the rest of the convo and focus on this.
So uh. Outside of night 1 of Fate and HF when has Heracles ever, ever, Ever been considered strong for a top tier servant?

From day 1 and throughout.

And this is despite his Berserker Class impeding his capacity to show his true skill or even use one of his NPs.

Everytime he fights he gets destroyed.

And it generally takes other top tiers, some really damn good hax or other shenanigans to pull that off.

Artoria destroys him in UBW while being crippled by Shirou.

Ignoring of course the fact Artoria is a top tier servant herself, wasn't that with Emiya's help?

Salter destroys him in HF.

Yes, a stronger version of an already top tier Servant destroyed him.
How exactly does this make Heracles weak again?

Gilg's enter threat is introduced on the basis that he can negative-effort dumpster Hercules.

You mean the fight where the main reason he has such an easy time of it, is because Heracles is taking hits for Illya?

Didn't Heracles come back in another class at one point and wipe the floor with Gil?

In an anti-feat for the both of them. He manages to die to Emiya six, times. Not once or thrice, but six times.

Yes that is a feat for Emiya.

Funny how having access to an NP that lets you copy a fuck ton of other NP's makes you uniquely suited to being able to shred lives off Heracles. Not to mention it's heavily implied by Heracles' own inner dialogue that this wouldn't have happened if Heracles were in his right mind.

Tbh compared to real top tiers that aren't overly reliant on their NP to cheese wins. Heracules has consistently been shown to be an impotent beatstick that can't kill them and at best stalemates after losing a life or two. The only time when he does anything vaguely impressive for high tier servant standards is night 1 of Fate/HF where he does unironically and straight up beat an Artoria whose had both of her legs figuratively crippled and both arms metaphorically tied behind her back. Given her entire schtick is being a mana engine going BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR stuck with Shirou.

And Artoria herself admits she likely wouldn't be able to beat him, even if she had been at full power.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

"The Dragonborn canonically would get their head chopped up by some random executioner with a non-magical iron axe"

You mean... literally when the game starts?

When the Dragonborn is at their weakest?

Sure bro

He tried using this to downplay the Ebony Warrior too. Who he insists isn't canon for some reason.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Can Naruto/Boruto verse compete with Nasuverse in power? SPOILERS!

Can Naruto/Boruto top tiers compete with Nasuverse top tiers in power? What tier would Naruto/Boruto top tiers be in the Nasuverse? Rules: Manga, game, VN, anime feats for both sides Bonus Round: Who is the weakest Nasu character who could 1v1 Naruto/Boruto characters? Rules: win by death or...

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From day 1 and throughout.

And this is despite his Berserker Class impeding his capacity to show his true skill or even use one of his NPs.

And it generally takes other top tiers, some really damn good hax or other shenanigans to pull that off.

Ignoring of course the fact Artoria is a top tier servant herself, wasn't that with Emiya's help?

Yes, a stronger version of an already top tier Servant destroyed him.
How exactly does this make Heracles weak again?

You mean the fight where the main reason he has such an easy time of it, is because Heracles is taking hits for Illya?

Didn't Heracles come back in another class at one point and wipe the floor with Gil?

Yes that is a feat for Emiya.

Funny how having access to an NP that lets you copy a fuck ton of other NP's makes you uniquely suited to being able to shred lives off Heracles. Not to mention it's heavily implied by Heracles' own inner dialogue that this wouldn't have happened if Heracles were in his right mind.

And Artoria herself admits she likely wouldn't be able to beat him, even if she had been at full power.

To point some of these out and to give the benefit of the doubt:

1. Alcides didn't dumpster Gilgamesh in SF, hell, it's damn near the opposite where Gilgamesh was putting Alcides to his paces and he wasn't getting anywhere without Ishtar sealing away his GoB.

2. Illya was definitely a huge part of it but Heracles as a Berserker isn't able to use Nine Lives which crippled him massively as he couldn't also use the easy movement Alcides can do to take on GoB

3. EMIYA never used GoB against Heracles in the Fate Route, those was all Projections, Broken Phantasms and Overedges.

Everything else is right though and it's funny as shit to see someone downplay Heracles so hard because "Muh explosions, muh collateral" and then expect others to ignore it for Naruto despite how many times they wank Collateral and Explosions, they are a hell of alot weaker than they love coming with.

 

[Astaro]

@Stocking Anarchy Is there any lore with the Ebony Warrior? Always found it odd how a Redguard that isn’t the Dragonborn learned the Thu’um

Dude must have been in Skyrim for a loooong time which makes sense since his life’s goal is to go to Sovngard

 

[Paxton]

Is there any lore with the Ebony Warrior? Always found it odd how a Redguard that isn’t the Dragonborn learned the Thu’um

- some random youtube comment I found

It seems about right from what I've researched though.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

It's funny they bring up "Salter losing to Lord Chaldeas with Excalibur" when:

1. It's heavily implied Salter was sandbagging(Especially since LB6 later states that the same Cu Caster we meet in Singularity F outright tells you Salter is still there, defending the place) and was against Lev's and Goetia's plan from the start and she could have won at any time if she really wanted to.

2. Lord Chaldeas/Camelot literally reflects attack launched at it. While it's not in the game, every other time we see it, it literally reflects what's launched at it unless Mash dies blocking it. No shit Salter would be taken out by her own attack, especially since she KNOWS that Mash houses Galahad, her Knight, as her Heroic Spirit and knows what it can do. That was the entire damned point.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

@Stocking Anarchy Is there any lore with the Ebony Warrior? Always found it odd how a Redguard that isn’t the Dragonborn learned the Thu’um

Dude must have been in Skyrim for a loooong time which makes sense since his life’s goal is to go to Sovngard

Other than lots of theories and speculations...he knows the thu'um, did everything else he needed to do, awaited a warrior who could challenge him and wants to go to Sovengarde (and does so).

Oh yes, and after you defeat him the guide says that you're the mightiest warrior in Skyrim since Ysgramor himself.