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They stomp 99% of the setting then. Only ones worth anything are the shards, and Chaos Gods which are super conditional if you want to fight them. Any direct confrontation will be near impossible.
They stomp 99% of the setting then. Only ones worth anything are the shards, and Chaos Gods which are super conditional if you want to fight them. Any direct confrontation will be near impossible.Yeah, it is.
Not necessarily. Her abilities are temperature based so hers is colder, but it's not more potent/powerful outside of that.
Rukia doesn’t manipulate ice, she manipulates temperature. There’s nothing colder than Absolute Zero but Toshirō’s freezing seems to surpass the concept of temperature entirely due it being capable of affecting fire and spirit energy.
Rukia's ice manipulation is less (such as having less volume) than Toshiro, but her freezing ability with true shikai and Bankai produces the coldest temperature one can have. Toshiro's freezing with true Bankai operates more on the conceptual level.
Kid Toshiro has showed the ability to freeze like Rukia when he fought Mayuri in a loop, but I don't think it was at absolute zero.
Who's ice is colder Adult Hitsugaya's or Rukia's?
If Rukia's ice is actually colder in bankai, shouldn't that mean she could freeze Gerard solid like Hitsugaya?www.fanverse.org
Basically, that's not what I've an issue with.It's been a while since I've read Bleach, but isn't that more or less accurate? Rukia can go absolute zero but Hitsugaya can like freeze abilities or something somehow
I'm pretty positive Alpha has the physicals and overall versatility to pretty much slap anyone around in Demon Slayer, Lucia however is dead weight with a very big MAYBE the ability to keep up VIA matrix. But Alpha just hard carries with speed+space time distorting/cutting attacks
Alpha, even in Crimson Abyss (base frame), is way out of DS characters' league, in terms of skill and physical abilities alone, not even considering the Punishing Virus that sometimes acts independently of her (blasted fisherman with lightning one time). Lucia should be able to at least survive the first engagement, and live long enough for Alpha to tear the other two apart.
At their peak, it's even more of a stomp, since Crimson Weave got a massive power boost compared to her old frame. Only this time around, Lucia got a serious buff herself, with Ion Thrusters built into her frame that is mention to make her 'exceptionally fast', enough so to somewhat keep up with Crimson Weave Alpha in a duel.
How the fuck is Hitsugaya going to beat someone powerful enough to take and control Yamamoto's Bankai AND force Ichibei to use more than physical attacks to beat him?Probably Hitsugaya under these conditions, unless Yhwach activates The Almighty.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE YAMAMOTO FALLACY?You are making the Yamamoto fallacy. Stop this.
Took the Bankai of a stronger character (which gerard was directly stated to be incapable of doing, along with every other Nazi) AND took hits from another stronger character in Ichibei and kept fighting.Yhwach is crippled here. There's no reason he must win because of who he is. There's actually no connection to Aschetonig Gerard or Adult Hitsugaya when his strongest abilities are locked.
It absolutely is that cut and dry for anyone exercising some basic common sense.Like at his true base level, sure. But he doesn't have anything Hitsugaya couldn't reasonably deal with or push back against under these conditions, it definitely isn't as cut and dry as "Yhwach wins lol".
Hitsugaya would dust shikai yamamoto with the wave of his hand.
Meanwhile Bankai Yamamoto would render DH inoperable and curbstomp him in turn.
You don't have a point to prove here, so no it doesn't.Kind of proves my point?
> Vaizard CaptainHe isn't, he's getting his shit wrecked.
I'd hardly call tagging and smacking Stark to the ground and being powerful enough that Stark admitted nothing short of his strongest attack would do anything to Love and Rose "irrelevant feats".Dude got some flashy irrelevant feats,
Notice how when I call Hisagi doing anything against Tosen an outlier (which it is), this dude calls that cherrypicking.and arguably the biggest outlier of this manga,
> Forced him to stop playing and use his strongest attack.that amounted to nothing against Starrk
He survived two of Stark's wolves without his Mask so yes.and he's now top Espada level without his Mask even though with his Shikai and Mask and also alongside a peer he got his shit wrecked by Starrk.
Wouldn't exactly be hard considering:Now if anyone wants to argue that Starrk is magnitudes stronger than the Espada below him, be my guest.
I can't wrap my head around their thought process, I really can't.Adamant bout to have a whole anyurism with these dudes
But Dangai has the flashy "destroy landscape with slash" feats and won his fight so he just "seems more impressive".me when the shonen character at the end of their series is stronger than they were near the middle of the series
(this is somehow a hard concept to grasp)
Well of course EMIYA stands no chance.Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)
Braa it aldready happened already , archer stand no chance end of the debate.forums.spacebattles.com
He has feats if we useDid we ever get ANY real reason to consider Kylo Ren anything noteworthy by Jedi or Sith standards?Strongest sith and strongest Jedi Peak Kylo Ren beats
Which is the strongest sith lord and stronges jedi knight/master he beats Canon in his strongest formwww.fanverse.org
Because from what I remember, he'd be lucky to beat Inquisitors or Fallen Order Cal.
They think that Part 1 Lee can beat War Arc Gai sensei.Who is the strongest person that Dangai/FKT Ichigo (Bleach) can beat without Mugetsu's drawback?
I know there is a popular debate wheter or not eos ichigo and dangai ichigo is stronger but not picking a side right now but since there is a debate about that then i kinda get the idea that's where dangai ichigo is now and considering that's not talking about him using mugetsu like it's a...forums.spacebattles.com
>EoS Ichigo vs Dangai Ichigo is a popular debate
Well of course EMIYA stands no chance.
Don't you see, he'll be so busy laughing his ass off at how weak Deku is, that he'll never be able to defeat him.
That fight was Nagant Fight Izuku.
This is current, ENRAGED, Izuku.
You know, the kid with Gearshift and strength that will instantly kill Archer on contact. Gearshift automatically means he's speedblitzing Archer due to him absolutely dunking Shigaraki.
ESPECIALLY since they are 40 meters apart.
They wank alot MHA but forgot that Servants speed feats are way better , like for SB Spergs a bullet timer like Deku or AllMight is something impressive , while in Nasu we have bullet timers like Hansa or Shiki and both of them are fodder for most servants.Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)
That fight was Nagant Fight Izuku. This is current, ENRAGED, Izuku. You know, the kid with Gearshift and strength that will instantly kill Archer on contact. Gearshift automatically means he's speedblitzing Archer due to him absolutely dunking Shigaraki. ESPECIALLY since they are 40 meters apart.forums.spacebattles.com
1. EMIYA fought against Heracles and took 6 lives, he ain't made out of glass no matter how hard you downplay him.
2. Gearshift (変 (へん) 速 (そく) Hensoku?): The Quirk of the second user. This Quirk allows Izuku to change the speed and/or velocity of any target he touches, including himself. This allows him to greatly accelerate his own speed and/or the velocity of his target, and enhance the impact force of his own strikes. After years of being empowered within One For All, Gearshift has evolved into an unusual power that cannot be wielded the usual way. It has also been designated as a last resort.
This is literally nothing new for any Servant as we have seen them literally avoid inertia when they attack or move on a dime.
3. Again Iskandar and his mounts went from 100 meters to 0 in a blink of an eye and Artoria was able to react to them and attack before the bulls can complete a single step
That's the slowest you can ever go for a Servant without being as dumb as SB.
EMIYA murders Deku.
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