You can remain skeptical but his feats speak for themselves. Hell as far as I'm aware, mental resistance feats in bleach are hot ass so niggas are gettig mind wammied off rip if we are being serious in any capacity
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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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IC Vader rarely uses mind rape as offensive attack isn't he
I doubt Bleach outstats Star Wars when the top tiers are MFTL and galaxy level to universe level+. They wouldn’t get the chance to pull off their hax if they aren’t fast enough. Not to mention Darth Vader doesn’t even need to be anywhere near them to stomp since his range is galactic, including his Force-enhanced senses and perception.
Vader tames a Sugati.
Vader telepathically instils fear in the minds of two Force sensitives.
As Sidious' apprentice, Vader learned to kill with a mere suggestion.
Vader controls the mind of an imperial officer.
Vader twists Boba Fett's thoughts.
Vader puts a man to sleep.
Vader casually nearly stuns Nick Rostu into a vegetative state while holding back decades before his prime, possibly using Force Horror.
Vader invades Stauz's mind, possibly forcing him to relive his worst memories via Memory Walk.
He has done it multiple times.
Vader tames a Sugati.
Vader telepathically instils fear in the minds of two Force sensitives.
As Sidious' apprentice, Vader learned to kill with a mere suggestion.
Vader controls the mind of an imperial officer.
Vader twists Boba Fett's thoughts.
Vader puts a man to sleep.
Vader casually nearly stuns Nick Rostu into a vegetative state while holding back decades before his prime, possibly using Force Horror.
Vader invades Stauz's mind, possibly forcing him to relive his worst memories via Memory Walk.
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There's actually a case of Darth Vader going back from the dead.
What makes this even more impressive is what happens after he was brought back to life. His life support is completely broken and yet he had ripped apart the pillar, smashed through a wall, survived a nearby grenade explosion, brought down an entire cathedral with a maze built underneath it. In spite of all this, he survives being buried under the cathedral for days and still lives. Nothing keeps him alive except his power in the Force.
To give some context, this comic is set somewhere in 19 BBY, Vader at his prime should be far more capable than this.
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I'd say Ardyn wins at being a much more enjoyable villain than Ultima at least, but then the DLC went and ruined that, didn't it?
But yeah, dude's gonna end up being turned Akashic when he wont die. I can't even think of a FF final boss Ardyn can beat unless we bring Dissidia scaling into the equation.
ha 
As Darth Vader said before, the power to destroy a planet or even a whole system is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
He is only doing all of this against 1 guy.
My issue is while he is doing it against group A and group B, group C can still attack him via their own hax
Regardless, the original thread is Empire vs Bleach, so Bleach loses regardless with or without Vader. Space Bombardment being my prefered method.
So I,guess lets just end this.
Sion is more impressive since he is doing it from beginning to the end without any tech support
Be grateful I'm not like those in SB that will certainly argue even top tier Sith is no match against Bleachverselike i understand being skeptical @Proto234 but if anywhere is gonna provide the feats to back up the claims they are making to help you understand, its gonna be here. We got like 90 niggas willing to post feats to satisfy you
As Darth Vader said before, the power to destroy a planet or even a whole system is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Yes I know
Sidious and Nihilus and Vitiate proves it already
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nearly all of this is just kinda refuted by the artbook saying its stats are None because they can’t be compared to any existing stand….which includes Notorious BIG whose got an infinity symbol for several stats. Even MiH is listed as infinite speed and not None.
The range thing is shot down because the official english translation has Diavolo directly say King Crimson’s range is universal, something previous fan translations did not directly state. Even if you don’t think GER’s power is universal there’s not really a lot you can do to argue its range.
It didn’t stop Pucci IMO for a reason we already saw in the manga with Polnareff…when you take the arrow from a Requiem stand it reverts back to its original form. The arrow falls out at the end of Part 5, that’s enough of an explanation for me
@OtherGalaxy king crimson is cause and effect manipulation right
i guess indirectly? It destroys ten seconds of time across the universe. Doppio vs Nero shows it off best, he erased the fraction of a second a bullet would have hit him, and since there was no time in which it could hit him in that space, it passes right through him.
There are other times where it functions like a regular timeskip but thats either Araki being inconsistent or a result of that time Diavolo said he could choose whose time gets erased or some shit
@Proto234 Come on man, I have no idea why you keep thinking that Vader is stuck fighting people 1 on 1 when we literally have shown you that he has dealt with people carrying Blasters and other shit which are explicitly Lightspeed by the hundreds with machinery and otherwise... and Vader took them all down.
I can even bring in Gennedy's Clone Wars where Mace Windu ANNIHILATES god knows how many Advanced Droids with his bare hands and The Force...
I even used the movies primarily because even the movie itself(No matter what idiotic OT fans want to say otherwise when it's clearly obvious they are beyond help) states that The Force is more powerful than the Death Star and we've seen Vader Force Choke people from virtually a whole ass Galaxy away. That's not getting into the other extended media where we see Anakin does in fact know how to fuck with people's heads and no one in Bleach has any mental resistance worth shit.
"But they got hax advantage" So does The Force? And even with himself being a gimped version of what he could be(i.e. Legends Luke), he would still effortlessly beat the shit out of Bleach because he's literally too fast, has precog, has mindfuck, scale to characters that can fuck with Stars, has bullshit range and can basically kill them without being near them, is way more durable and just that much more stronger.
This is literally gonna be him vs. Bleach.
I can even bring in Gennedy's Clone Wars where Mace Windu ANNIHILATES god knows how many Advanced Droids with his bare hands and The Force...
I even used the movies primarily because even the movie itself(No matter what idiotic OT fans want to say otherwise when it's clearly obvious they are beyond help) states that The Force is more powerful than the Death Star and we've seen Vader Force Choke people from virtually a whole ass Galaxy away. That's not getting into the other extended media where we see Anakin does in fact know how to fuck with people's heads and no one in Bleach has any mental resistance worth shit.
"But they got hax advantage" So does The Force? And even with himself being a gimped version of what he could be(i.e. Legends Luke), he would still effortlessly beat the shit out of Bleach because he's literally too fast, has precog, has mindfuck, scale to characters that can fuck with Stars, has bullshit range and can basically kill them without being near them, is way more durable and just that much more stronger.
This is literally gonna be him vs. Bleach.
This is why CharacterRant will always remain a disingenuous subreddit no one truly takes seriously.
We already know what it can do because we literally see it do what it does and is told to us without any irony on what it does. For instance:
He uses 2 extremely stupid takes to try and prove his point, one is that GER is still a close range Stand and the other is "Why didn't it stop Pucci?" and the answer to both of those... is answered in the series itself. GER is only a "Close Range Stand" in the fact that it doesn't truly have a long range attack it can do on it's own(It can do them if it has access to something it can work with like the rocks we explicitly see when it first appears) and the second is that we explicitly see The Arrow leave GER and while it's implied Giorno can call upon it again, it's not automatically there either and he would need the Stand Arrow to reactivate it. It doesn't take a genius that Giorno would be well too late as he would wonder what the fuck is happening well before thinking of using GER.
He then uses... this:
When Golden Experience Requiem literally states it can use it's abilities even without Giorno knowing what they are! Even at the end of Part 5, Giorno only works with gut feelings because he has absolutely no idea how GER works, just that Diavolo is done for good. Meaning knocking Giorno out wouldn't do anything... if you can even do so in the first place without GER automatically reducing that and your aggression to 0 in the process or after.
Like everything else is stupid as shit and not even worth discussing(Why can't you use a Long Range or AOE attack as if Stands never blocked that shit or was able to still work around AOE attacks before...) but this is how CharacterRants work:
Either completely outdated arguments that doesn't even work anymore or lying their asses off when the work explicitly points out everything they say is wrong and why.
Starkiller in Force Unleashed 2 can use Mind Trick on multiple foes at once, where they end up fighting each other.
Even on machines.
Even on machines.
Causality Break or Bust
thats like his only chance there otherwise that spear is gonna start fucking
The hecks Causality break going to do to Othinus other than remove the Fairy spell stake in her chest she didn’t even bother to remove anyway?
its more the whole severering the cause and effect relationship of spells. Either that works and maybe he stands a snowballs chance or it doesnt and he dies immediately
I know. By feats, all it will do is destroy the stake on her, which wouldn’t matter to her anyway
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