And this is why Feats and stuff matters
Because Ihiko can be hit by stuff he doesnt recognize as shown when Medaka hit him with the Kurokami Phantom and forced him to swap bodies.
And this is why Feats and stuff mattersWhy you bring up Iihiko who can be unaffected by powers he doesn't recognize (essentially power nullification)
What was the context for why that worked anyway?And this is why Feats and stuff matters
Because Ihiko can be hit by stuff he doesnt recognize as shown when Medaka hit him with the Kurokami Phantom and forced him to swap bodies.
He didnt see it coming even though he watched her run up to him with the Phantom and called the attack slow. She dipped behind him and hit him in the back and then it workedWhat was the context for why that worked anyway?
I mean yeah that's how a decent amount of abilities are in fictionNah see, I said statements only. If there were not feats if we took statements as the only thing, Which is what this Memento Mori shit has for the most part, shit would just boil down to "are you faster?" otherwise GG you lose no debate needed, dont need feats.
I mean Zeno has shown how he deletes shit from existence, Beerus too with Hakai so this is just wrong.
Though tbf to be wiped from existence TRULY one would also need to be wiped from all of history as well as people memories and all.
I havent seen a single person get vaporized and then someone go "Yeah i wiped you from existence"
Again it needs the feats still. Just a statement wont work.
All Fiction is a better version of this and we can make the claim of "It works or it doesnt" because he has the feats to back up his statement of erasing whatever the fuck he wants at that point its down to the other person to show feats of resistance at that point.
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Zeref verbatim says that Mard Geer wouldn't have been able to kill him with Memento Mori.
And yeah, if it hits Accelerator and Aleister and they do nothing about it, it would erase them from existence, because they have no inherent resistance to such an ability.
Thankfully, the ability does visibly travel so they'd be able to dodge it with ease, among other things.
Why you bring up Iihiko who can be unaffected by powers he doesn't recognize (essentially power nullification), ORT who probably has some form of resistance to existence erasure, and Demi-Fiend who also has a similar sort of resistance given how Almighty attacks in SMT work, I have no clue.
All of these characters have an out against the ability in some way shape or form.
So like I said: either you have an out against the ability when hit by it or you don't.
Mard Geer - "I'm going to kill you"Him saying that doesn't mean shit because we don't know how or why it wouldn't work. Zeref saying it wouldn't is not enough proof.
Man, you really don't understand anything at all...
We are told thats what they do and are then shown evidence of them performing that.I mean yeah that's how a decent amount of abilities are in fiction
you either resist them or you don't and you lose if the opponent uses it and it lands
that's just how it is
the thing is, we only know Zeno and Hakai erase things from existence BECAUSE we're told that they do that
otherwise what makes us believe it's no different than a generic strong energy blast?
Yeah but "I'll erase you from this world" is vastly different from "I'll erase you from existence"it's a pretty common hyperbole to say in fiction tbf, you might not just be remembering well (not like I'm one to talk)
"I'll erase you from this world" (doesn't actually have those sorts of powers, and is just killing them normally)
etc etc
It means he couldnt kill himMard Geer - "I'm going to kill you"
Zeref - "I'm afraid that's not possible for you"
gee I wonder what that could mean
maybe that Mard Geer can't kill him with anything he does?
Zeref's whole thing is trying to find something that can kill him.It means he couldnt kill him
AND WE DONT KNOW WHY
Zeref could mean that if he used Memento Mori he could just get out of its range or something thereby rendering it useless
Zeref's whole thing is trying to find something that can kill him.
???
Why would he dodge??
Then why didnt he let the Demon try.He's literally TRYING TO DIE
The simplest explanation is that it just wouldn't kill him even if it landed.Then why didnt he let the Demon try.
Can't say it wont work if you didnt try
we also can't say it would work if he did
Thats the problem
We just dont know why.
And we don't know if thats true because he immediately killed the demon.The simplest explanation is that it just wouldn't kill him even if it landed.
Is trying to die
has demon with existence erasure spell
doesnt let the demon try
claims it wont work
kills demon
explains nothing
leaves
There's only so many explanations one can give for the situation though.And we don't know if thats true because he immediately killed the demon.
Thats Zeref in a nutshell
Mard Geer - "I'm going to kill you"
Zeref - "I'm afraid that's not possible for you"
gee I wonder what that could mean
maybe that Mard Geer can't kill him with anything he does?
we're going from "Memento Mori doesn't erase things" to "even if it does, why would Zeref be unkillable to it"
Give me a reasonable explanation as to what it could mean then.That can mean anything because Zeref literally never gave him the chance to try!
This is not like where we see a villain give his subordinate the chance to kill him and it failed, Zeref literally banished his ass and burnt the book before he did fuck all.
Bro, you are somehow missing the forest for the fucking trees! The whole problem is that it's literally featless outside of a statement and we have to pretend suddenly matters for this reason.
Why is it unlikely?There's only so many explanations one can give for the situation though.
A. Memento Mori does not exist things from existence, and Mard Geer was talking out of his ass. (Unlikely)
With no backing behind itB. Memento Mori does erase things from existence, and Zeref is unkillable to it (which he says himself).
This is the situation we are at, because if just reversing what the curse did was enough to kill him permanently, why WOULDNT Memento Mori kill himC. Memento Mori does erase things from existence, and it could've killed Zeref, yet he didn't let it for some unexplained reason (even though he's trying to die).
So...
If Memento Mori could've killed him, Zeref would've let him use it on him.Why is it unlikely?
With no backing behind it
This is the situation we are at, because if just reversing what the curse did was enough to kill him permanently, why WOULDNT Memento Mori kill him
We are going in circlesIf Memento Mori could've killed him, Zeref would've let him use it on him.
Give me a reasonable explanation as to what it could mean then.
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