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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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So cutting out some important portions of the Sperg Hasta's take on Shonen protags vs TV Omniman (Season 1 at least)...


So apparently according to him, Omniman would lose to Naruto, Ichigo, Luffy, Yusuke, Gash Bell, Meliodas, Negi Springfield, Alita, Pre-timeskip Toriko, Vash, and Kenshiro because reasons.

Is any one of them actually close to accurate?
 

Paxton

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"Clonoth, with the latter being almost explicitly better than the Sephiroth (was stated to be beyond Keter when created)"

holy fucking reading comprehension

Qliphah states that Accelerator would EVENTUALLY go beyond Keter
not that the Clonoth already transcends Keter

it's explicitly compared to the Sephiroth as a "sapling"


- NT22


blah blah blah the numerous statements describing the Sephirah and the Four Worlds don't exist and the Kabbalah is some niche thing that doesn't matter in this series blah blah


Wtf do you think recreates the To Aru cosmology after Coronzon destroys it then?
 
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82J

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1. All Official Material related to the Windows era
2. Bonus Round includes all material from PC-98 era to all materials ranging from Genso Wanderer to Fantasy Maiden Wars.

Yeah R.I.P. Jojo, the verse is gonna experience the hell of dealing with some of the most broken and unique hax from Fantasy Nature to having Nuclear Fission with mini-stars to the face.


Speaking of Touhou, anyone interested in making a respect thread of Touhou, despite how vague its abilities can get, including all material can make it a bit clear in where the verse stands.
 

Astaro

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Like always with JoJo, do they beat GER or not?



Ive no comment since I don’t know how strong Touhou is
 

Gordo

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Touhou has genuine FTL planet busters in it so it’s overkill for 99% of JoJo

They’re well into “solos HST” territory
 

Gordo

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So apparently according to him, Omniman would lose to Naruto, Ichigo, Luffy, Yusuke, Gash Bell, Meliodas, Negi Springfield, Alita, Pre-timeskip Toriko, Vash, and Kenshiro because reasons.

Is any one of them actually close to accurate?
Considering most of those guys are weaker than Kid Goku, who he thinks Omni-Man has a shot at winning after a tough fight

Then no, he doesn’t know how strong any of these characters are
 

Top59

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By the moment Omniman of the animated series is MFTL+ but Moon level does take into account that he stopped an asteroid the size of Texas. So it would beat most of the list, Naruto, Ichigo and Vash are stronger but much slower, I don't know if they would count Omniman throwing them off the planet with his speed.

P.S Omniman in the comics is Planeta level and MFTL.
 

82J

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Like always with JoJo, do they beat GER or not?



Ive no comment since I don’t know how strong Touhou is
I can name some notable abilities from characters in Touhou that can potentially deal with the stand.

Kaguya: has the ability to manipulate "eternity and the instantaneous" with "eternity" allowing her to render change obsolete, such as things that possess eternity indefinitely do not change, and also cannot be interfered with by things outside of themselves. With "instantaneous" allowing her to alter the needed "instants" and make them her own time. However, whatever she gathers together—since it is made up of many "unrecognisable instants" that cannot be changed—has no means of being known about. For this reason, in manipulating the instantaneous, Kaguya is able to spend "time the same as others'" and "time different from others'" simultaneously.

Reimu: has the ability "Fantasy Nature" which allows her to "float" away from existence and to never get hit, quit literally being absolute "invincible" made worse in that she can still attack while in this ability and it can last indefinitely.

Sagume: the ability to "Reversing a situation with her words," quit simply, she can literally jinx reality into doing the opposite she saying within a situation, causing it to reverse itself through whatever means possible. If she speaks about an attempt to achieve a goal, it will fail in some way. If she speaks about something bad occurring, it will be resolved in some way. Note that it is the situation or the event she talks about that will be reversed in some manner; it is not that the opposite of what she says must occur.

So yeah, Touhou characters are broken.
 

Qinglong

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Weather and Sukima catalogued most of the feats for the verse aside from the newest games

but thanks to mbxx being a drunk dumbo a bunch of blogs got deleted, so they may or may not even still be up

GER is the only thing that stops them, everyone else gets hosed
 

Randomdude

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TheOneBellowAll can not only have no idea how to calc(Like most of Spacebattles), the dude has no goddamned idea that while yes, that is a feat... how does it scale to ANYONE in Nazarick, let alone Ainz?
Scaling gargantua is weird, it has the highest physical stats amongst the guardians but due to it's lack sapience/intellect it's also considered the easiest to beat among them. This gets even weirder when you consider how intellect would affect characters in game...Like none of the npcs had an sapience/all functioned off programming so why did lacking intellect affect it's combat rating there?

As with everything in overlord when you get to high tiers you reach this weird area where nobody can one shot each other/everyone starts scaling to each other. Ainz is able to cast in between being hit by high tier warriors/isn't overwhelmed even when he gets into melee as a pure mage. Shalltear is strong enough to casually bat aside hits from a raid boss ect.]

I suspect a lot of this id due to overlords literal interpretation of health mechanics meaning even if your taking huge damage you can just keep attacking/fighting but it also means it's really hard to measure how much damage characters are actually doing to one another.
 

Gordo

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Bruno is the one that confirmed Old Kratos isn’t stronger than Young Kratos and that Zeus > Baldur

Tbh I trust his word a lot on that manner. Disregarding those statements and accepting his other ones would be picking and choosing
 
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