Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Xhominid The Apex]

They wank alot MHA but forgot that Servants speed feats are way better , like for SB Spergs a bullet timer like Deku or AllMight is something impressive , while in Nasu we have bullet timers like Hansa or Shiki and both of them are fodder for most servants.

The thing about that is that SB loves using the lowest end while still acting as if they are being partial when they aren't.
For instance, Kayneth has shown to easily react to bullets and claymore explosions even before VH reacts to him in F/Z multiple times. They love cherry picking Kotomine only being able to react to bullets when the gun is pointed at him but we have plenty of scenes of him blocking or dodging when the bullets are fired.

Hansa not only blocks bullets on many occasions, he literally do so with a shotgun and an assault rifle with one hand and Kotomine still outranks him in the timeline where he's not in his F/Z Prime.

EDIT: There's also Shiki Ryougi dodging a point blank Car Bomb which was timed to be at Mach 28 and that isn't even her fastest onscreen feat. Then the Melty Blood Manga had Tohno react to and cut Lightning from Roa who specializes in Lightning Magecraft to an insane degree... and Svin literally did the same thing to Atrum and more Magi who helped made the Lightning even faster through Weather Manipulation... and Touko reacted to him mid-charge while not even being in sight.

I tend to like bringing up the Iskandar feat because while it's not super fast, it tends to bring up speedfeats on both ends(Iskandar clearing 100 meters in a blink of an eye to Artoria reacting to it and unleashing Excalibur before the bull makes a final step(When she only did it DURING that final step) and Iskandar grabbing Waver and dodging it at that exact timeframe) when I can just bring in Saber and Diarmuid's final battle had them both go Relativistic just sparring with each other:

Artoria and Diarmuid begin to clash. Their fight this time is more intense than the one at the docks from Volume 1. They’re exchanging and countering one another with full strength blows. They’re speed is “passed the speed of sound” and “nearing the speed of light”.

Then—both parties stepped forward at the same time with spirits majestic as the rainbow in the sky, and the clashing sounds were clear as ripping cloth.

The two heroes who had not had a chance to battle these three days, tonight finally had the chance to face off; an intense battle would once again occur.

The situation of battle tonight—on one hand was a re-enactment of the showdown at the warehouses, but the battle of their crossing swords was even more intense than the first—fiercer, more direct, more final; it was a direct clash of strength on strength.

Between the two there was no need for mutual evaluation, nor the use of tricks to confuse the other. Lancer held only one lance right from the beginning; the blade of Saber’s sword was also completely revealed. Neither used means of plots and tricks. Even faster, even more imposing. After one made a move, the other would immediately retaliate at full strength with a blow that would counter the first. A simple contest of skill, blade of sword against point of lance, even more intense, even more white-hot.

The holy sword intertwined with the demonic lance, in direct opposition; the sparks flying were simply dazzling. The clash between the precious artifacts of legend, driven by strength and speed far beyond that of a human, passed the speed of sound, nearing the speed of light. Observation had long since lost meaning in this momentous battle. Those divine skills, pushed to the limits at the point of this fierce battle, were having a supreme contest between the two.

An unknown number of rounds had been fought; perhaps tens of rounds, perhaps hundreds of rounds. It was simply impossible to determine with a mortal eye. After the lance and sword of the two clashed, they finally separated, and moved away from each other.

 

[Proto234]

Can Gojo Satoru (Jujutsu kaisen) survive these Noble Phantasm (Fate)?

Excalibur, Apfel Schiessen, Gae Bolg: infinity should stops them. MEoDP, EA, Tsumukari Muramasa: they counter infinity and kill Gojo. Per Aspera Ad Astra: Quirinus can bypass Chaos' dimensional maze, he can do the same with infinity and his NP should kill Gojo. Caladbolg: should bypass infinity...

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Lol, you know you fail when even Nursery doubts you.
And for that note, all of the listed NP should kill Gojo, even if assuming Excalibur is in its sealed version

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Can Gojo Satoru (Jujutsu kaisen) survive these Noble Phantasm (Fate)?

Excalibur, Apfel Schiessen, Gae Bolg: infinity should stops them. MEoDP, EA, Tsumukari Muramasa: they counter infinity and kill Gojo. Per Aspera Ad Astra: Quirinus can bypass Chaos' dimensional maze, he can do the same with infinity and his NP should kill Gojo. Caladbolg: should bypass infinity...

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Lol, you know you fail when even Nursery doubts you.
And for that note, all of the listed NP should kill Gojo, even if assuming Excalibur is in its sealed version

The funny part is that not even Noble Phantasms are needed...
Heracles was able to knock around Caladbolg II which can explicitly warp space when launched to the point Medea was seriously injured despite creating a Magical Barrier and trying to dodge/teleport out of the way. There's also Enkidu which doesn't just bind the Servant, but also bounds them through space as well... and he still broke through it.
The same deal is the case for anyone who also was able to deal with it @ChaosTheory123 added in the Gojo vs. Nasuverse thread that happened in FV like 2-3 weeks ago:

Gojo runs Fate verse

Gojo hears tell of some “sorcerers” runnin around Japan blowin the shit out of Fuyuki every few years and wonders what the hell thats about Hows he do? Speed equal

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, EMIYA releases Caladbolg II, Herakles senses the danger it poses and attacks the arrow with all his might to defend against it. , Caladbolg II razed the cemetary, Herakles is left standing in a crater where the impact occurred. , having acted to counter Caladbolg II, the remaining energy that detonated on impact leaves Herakles unharmed for his efforts despite Caladbolg II being an A Rank Noble Phantasm (basically, he's able to survive a large fraction of Caladbolg II's impact, but were he not to counter the attack would take a life or 2).
, EMIYA aims Caladbolg II at Medea, Medea hastily casts defensive magic, EMIYA fires Caladbolg II. , Caladbolg II distorts space as it travels, Caladbolg II easily penetrates Medea's defense. Even if she had tried to teleport, how Caladbolg II distorts space would have twisted her up anyway.
Don't see why the "Infinite Series" would matter in the face of an attack that ignores space. And at a glance I'm not seeing him dealing with spatial hax anywhere I've looked so far, he is the spatial hax in the franchise.
Actually, that both Artoria Alter and Herakles can just kind of swat Caladbolg II tells me their generic ass strikes can interact with spatial hax a bit.
Makes sense when Herakles also will powered his way out of Enkidu.
, Gilgamesh ensnares Herakles with Enkidu as Herakles tries to swing at his form. , Gilgamesh notes Enkidu once restrained Gugalanna. Despite this, Gilgamesh notes that Enkidu doesn't appear to be enough to finish Herakles off. , Enkidu binds even space itself, yet both Shirou and Gilgamesh have already acknowledge the chains will probably fail to his strength. , Enkidu's hold over Herakles can't be broken by Illya using a command spell to summon him back to her. , the more divine something Enkidu restrains is, the harder it is to break its chains.

, Herakles breaks the chains of Enkidu through his final wind of Willpower. , with Godhand no more, Herakles' final death comes from Gae Bolg. , Herakles final wind from a different narrative perspective (he did it for Illya, basically). , despite being dead, despite no longer having magical energy, Herakles stays in the world long enough to comfort a dying Illya through pure willpower.

If you are wondering why are there those weird commas, it's supposed to be hyperlinks but due to me being perma-banned there due to MBXXX's nonsense, you can't see them at all but they are there in the Respect Thread he made.

EDIT: You can't even go with the "Infinite Void" nonsense because we actually do find out Atlasian Mages can literally partition parts of their brains for not only maximum output but in a sense of being able to literally compute shit towards themselves in such a ludicrous capacity, it's like you have multiple selves in you(Which is why there's the Nemo Series at all due to how it comes off if a Servant has access to it)

 

[Masterblack06]

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Ayo what the fuck

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

@Proto234 Actually, BBHoteppu is right because again Nursery Rhyme has no idea what they are talking about.

Even if we take away the fact that Noble Phantasms(or just sufficiently power levels of mana) can basically start ignoring hax:
Apfel Schießen: Released first arrow of faith
Rank: C
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: 1~50
Maximum number of targets: 1 person

Apfel Schießen.
The reading means 『Shooting the apple』.
The legendary arrow shot with a crossbow that admirably pierced the apple placed on top of his son’s head.
This arrow released after receiving the trust on the son’s father will never fail, and will 『certainly』 pierce the target.
Summarizing, this Noble Phantasm has the property of interfering with the law of cause and effect, and evasion is fundamentally impossible.

It's literally just Gae Bolg: The Arrow version... and if Gojou somehow can interfere with that...

Zweite Schießen: Released second best second arrow
Rank: C+
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: 1~50
Maximum number of targets: 1 person

Zweite Schießen.
A second Noble Phantasm that is activated only supposing the case in which the first Noble Phantasm that 『will never fail』 misses.
It’s derived from the anecdote in which Tell, thinking on what would happen if he missed the apple on his son, had a hidden arrow in order to shoot at the evil governor Geßler.
This arrow is released at the same time 『it must be shot in the case of the first arrow missing』.
That means this arrow is a Noble Phantasm that is conceptually overlapped and exists multiple times.
If the first arrow hits properly it will never be activated.

As if he was saying 『If I miss the apple on top of my son’s head (the first shot) everyone will die, so I have to shoot at the governor that gave that order (second shot) if I fail』, depending on the situation it can be released deciding where to shoot it at.
It’s possible to choose the same target as the first shot as well, and it will certainly pierce the target by interfering with the law of cause and effect in the same manner.
However it’s hard to fire randomly since the mana consumption becomes intenser.
… Although the situation in which 『the first arrow that will absolutely hit』 fails is not frequently seen.

He's absolutely getting hit by the 2nd Arrow that literally exists and doesn't exist at the same time...

William Tell is bullshit.

 

[Proto234]

@Proto234 Actually, BBHoteppu is right because again Nursery Rhyme has no idea what they are talking about.

Even if we take away the fact that Noble Phantasms(or just sufficiently power levels of mana) can basically start ignoring hax:
Apfel Schießen: Released first arrow of faith
Rank: C
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: 1~50
Maximum number of targets: 1 person



It's literally just Gae Bolg: The Arrow version... and if Gojou somehow can interfere with that...

Zweite Schießen: Released second best second arrow
Rank: C+
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: 1~50
Maximum number of targets: 1 person



He's absolutely getting hit by the 2nd Arrow that literally exists and doesn't exist at the same time...

William Tell is bullshit.

I could have sworn that BBHoteppu says that Tell's NP will be stopped by Infinity and Nursery says that Tell's NP can pierce Infinity precisely because of its nature as you said

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I could have sworn that BBHoteppu says that Tell's NP will be stopped by Infinity and Nursery says that Tell's NP can pierce Infinity precisely because of its nature as you said

Okay, I'll give NR that, I actually read that part wrong.
But saying Excalibur can be stopped by Infinity when it blew through Sefar's bullshit is all levels of insanity, even if we only go by it being "sealed" which is still too much for Infinity.

 

[Paxton]

I mean, Excalibur's hitting Gojo anyway regardless of any nonsensical comparisons between Sefar's ability and Limitless.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

I went to look back over a certain Reddit post to get some more quote links, and lo and behold...






They are utterly astounded by SBs downplay.

 

[One and Only]

They think that Part 1 Lee can beat War Arc Gai sensei.

I thought you were exagerrating. It took me a sec to remember you are absolutely correct.

Ever since Mook calced Usain Bolt levels of sprinting speed for Shippuden Naruto, I lost all hope for Naruto SB threads. Knowing them they probably went 'Supersonic ninjas are only for God tiers!' then came to the conclusion that war arc Gai would lose to 5th gate lee.

 

[Triple Accel 555]

https://m.fanfiction.net/r/11450888/0/2/

The Truth about Narutoverse is That Naruto Chracters are Better And More Skilled Fighters then
Dragonball characters.. Agiain only Skillwise and especially Their Freaking Hax.

 

[shiny]

Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)

Nothing about this scan proves Archer is faster than lightning tho? He just deflected it.

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[Xhominid The Apex]

I went to look back over a certain Reddit post to get some more quote links, and lo and behold...






They are utterly astounded by SBs downplay.

Because Spacebattles makes it a science to be as blatantly hypocritical and retarded as they can possibly be.
I can understand why even CharacterRant at times would feel this way because it's as blatant as it gets when the Cosmology and the cutscenes and the game itself tells you one thing but SB goes "I canz kill Dragon with Swordz. Zpearz and Awrows! They aint strongs" as a retarded counterargument is extra stupid.
It's no different than how they blatantly ignore lore in most Final Fantasy games to weaken them far harder than it is.

Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)

Nothing about this scan proves Archer is faster than lightning tho? He just deflected it.

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"Archer isn't faster than lightning, he can only deflect it!"
... How the fuck is that a checkmate?! There's also the Manga version of UBW in which Archer... does dodge Lightning from Medea... multiple times in their fight.

 

[shiny]

Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)

Magic Lightning that doesn't have to be moving at 220,000 miles per hour. It's on you to prove that Medea's lightning is moving at the same speed as cloud-to-ground lightning. So if there's a scene similar to the one about Sasuke Uchiha's Kirin that gives you the speed I'm all ears.

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[Xhominid The Apex]

"It's Magic Lightning"

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Fate/Side Material - Encyclopedia: Magecraft [Magecraft], p.073 [T]

Magecraft [Magecraft]
A general term for the act of artificially reenacting mysteries and miracles.
Although each school has its individual differences, it is basically a mechanism for using the magical energy in the practitioner's body or the outside world, in order to reenact a predetermined phenomenon.
The practitioner sends an order (command) to the foundation (system) controlled by their school, and a pre-made function (program) is executed.
The "electrical current" needed to send that command and execute the program is magical energy.
Though magecraft may seem almighty, it is basically the bringing about of mysteries by means of equivalent exchange.
Even the exceptionally talented Rin, in exchange for her versatile sorcery trait, will find herself afflicted by a chronic lack of money her entire life.
Also, sorceries that affect other people's minds and change the course of their thoughts require no physical compensation, but the practitioner will inevitably find their own thoughts being pulled in that altered direction as well. As the saying goes, before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.
Because the study of curses is looked down upon as unscholarly by the Association, they have fallen far behind the Middle East in that particular field.

Yeah, it's so hard to prove it because it's "Magic", ignoring the fact it's literally no different than the concept of Alchemy... But I guess Alchemy in Full Metal Alchemist is bullshit too as it's just "Magic".

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

Because Spacebattles makes it a science to be as blatantly hypocritical and retarded as they can possibly be.
I can understand why even CharacterRant at times would feel this way because it's as blatant as it gets when the Cosmology and the cutscenes and the game itself tells you one thing but SB goes "I canz kill Dragon with Swordz. Zpearz and Awrows! They aint strongs" as a retarded counterargument is extra stupid.
It's no different than how they blatantly ignore lore in most Final Fantasy games to weaken them far harder than it is.

The absolute arguments I've seen.

It's not just the downplay, it's the absolute dishonesty, double standards and toxicness. They're liars and they know it.

I'm glad people are calling themout for what they are (although granted, there are some respect threads with effort and honestly in them on SB, but it's getting rarer and rarer).

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

What’s the method of adding new feats for OBD. Since OBD Mondaiji thread is just dead wrong. The whole Star punching fist was a mistranslation, it was always comparable to movement of tectonic plate. Also, the whole statement but no feats gets it self dead wrong when considering that Little Garden is not Only stronger than outer world but universe and multiverses stack together like atoms in it. And the cosmology page to just TBA. I can finally see why @Aurelian just classifies it at like multi-galaxy to universal despite 1000s of feats to say other wise.
(Before someone bombards me with: ‘Not right place to post this’ - this is the only thread I am active in so help please.)

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Also guys, if there is a statement of star and infinite world with several backing up in side story, statement from other character, Tweet from author, and its sequel and prequel; someone who in universe has omniscience but that feat didn’t destroy the planet even when it has statement of comparable to sun then does that means people here don’t accept it.
OBD has done it for Mondaiji, like several times and uses mistranslation to invalidate the feats. How outdated is that site.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

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Deku (MHA) vs Archer (F/SN)

Nothing about this scan proves Archer is faster than lightning tho? He just deflected it.

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Leave it. Seen enough of fate and plenty sure at this point, it’s a bait for both Xhom and You. No need to get you BP high for bunch of sadistic idiots wining while sitting behind their Devices. How about switching to Fanfic. We always roast SB and sometimes Fanverse. Fanfiction.net seems the next thing to do. I have plenty of things from Overlord and Naruto

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

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Leave it. Seen enough of fate and plenty sure at this point, it’s a bait for both Xhom and You. No need to get you BP high for bunch of sadistic idiots wining while sitting behind their Devices. How about switching to Fanfic. We always roast SB and sometimes Fanverse. Fanfiction.net seems the next thing to do. I have plenty of things from Overlord and Naruto

Shiny is the one actually baiting himself and going as hard as he does.
I already know SB looks into this thread and certain users in particular and I already mentioned it before and will now:

If your entire goal in "getting me to get mad" when all you do is make further asses of yourselves and have more people doubt your validity as a VS. Board, you either have some terrible priorities or you guys are that adamant of sticking in your safe space.