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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Volkmire

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lets see what spacebattles ai and its infinite wisdom says about wyoming vs deadra

Definitely not. The cops might be able to take out a few lesser daedra themselves. However, the locals would struggle against anything more than a handful of skamps. The daedra would easily overpower them in force, not to mention the massive advantage they would have in magic. Plus, this is a single Oblivion gate, so it's going to have a very powerful Daedric lord behind it, something even a small army would struggle against. And this gate isn't opening up in some small village - it's directly outside the capital city of Wyoming! This will be a slaughter!


even spacebattles a.i. disagrees :tupac
 
Only due to sequel , otherwise it would be stuck to city lvl and Supersonic. :kobeha

Basically. @Gordo Inuyasha would be very, very mid with decent to good hax if it wasn't for Yashahime's existence which basically gave it everything it needed and then some to suddenly become damn near close to Planetary.
The hilarious parts of this was due to the Grim Comet alone on top of how they did the battles between Sesshomaru and Kirinmaru. The craziest part is that the Manga adaptation could give them even more bullshit feats as that's still in progress even now.
 

Volkmire

The Lurker
what if tohru helps out wyoming?

Hmm, definitely a lot closer. Tohru is a powerful dragon who can easily destroy hordes of lesser daedra with firebreath. While the Daedra would certainly have an advantage in terms of sheer number, Tohru may be able to hold the line long enough for the locals and volunteers to destroy the gate. The police could also help take out the smaller daedra while Tohru focuses on the big guys. Definitely a much more fair matchup!

:russ
 

R1 Lancelot (Only Fate/Zero and Stay Night)
R2 Lancelot (Only Fate/Zero and Stay Night) with the jet.
R3 Lancelot (All feats except Realta Nua manga)

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Okay seriously, it's said in the thread but yeah, it's not just Turas Realta(Which is what he meant to say as Realta Nua is just the updated version of the F/SN VN without the sex scenes...) but you would have to take away every single feat BUT UFOTable for that...

Because most of the recent ridiculous feats from Fate... is from everywhere else BUT Fate/Zero and UBW(Apocrypha has the Magnitude 10+ feat Sieg does that Karna no sells that many characters their peer scales to, the Island+ feat Jeanne does scales to everyone on her level, Mash!Galahad dodging lasers pointblank, Quetzalcoatl straight up creating a Star, Tristan slicing up a whole ass City Block's Foundation casually, Gawain melting huge blocks of stone and otherwise with his heat, Nero no selling a spatial attack that wrecks everything else, Raikou straight up doing Karna/Arjuna tier levels of damage casually etc, etc.)

Like there's no reason or point to remove Turas Realta as if that changes anything because it really doesn't... at all.
 

It's beginning to be both sad and hilarious how delusional one person can be in stonewalling terribly while getting mad that people are calling them out for being such an ass.

Except in all the posts you have show there is still no exemple of the resistance your claiming that thé servant have.

Having it need to be clearly explained is your fault, not the fault of the mountains of evidence against your claims. This is ironic considering he's using Sukuna's word to prove that Strong Cleave can cleave Space itself despite that's not how Sukuna stated it.

You Say They resist Time manipulation but post nothing that show them doing that or for the same kind of technique sukuna use.

>Showing Video and Materials that straight up states what certain attacks does and the Servant survives it
>Doesn't show them doing the same thing to Sukuna's Strong Cleave
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I even show exemple of character that are not given résistance and abilities They never show even When the story tell us They should have them.
So if you have enough to write those text it shouldn't have been difficult to find instence When those resistance happen.

Except again, none of that shows at all what you mean. As CrossingArcadia later states nothing actually shows Gojo died because Sukuna's Strong Cleave bisected space, it's actually stated differently as Sukuna's Strong Cleave never bypassed Infinity in the typical way, it actually just targeted the Space Gojo was in and considering Gojo was tired and caught off guard...
We have no idea if Gojo could have taken that Strong Cleave and not died or could have no sold it for all we know. HOWEVER, I fully believe Itadori is absolutely gonna tank it and the narrative will be destroyed as a whole.

You mean outside of the fact that the technique is describe, and then After show to actually be able to kill goji When before his other attack couldn't.
I mean good for you if you want to ignore what happen in the manga.

Read the above.

I am not sure how you what Garbs post a sufficient evidence for the claim maid for thé résistance of servant. The only thing he has write is that kiritsugu is a modern mage so They resist .

Because Magecraft at it's core is basically a facet of multiple different styles of "Magic" as we know of it:
Alchemy, Curses, Witchcraft, Runecraft, Astromancy, Kabbalah, etc, etc. Even Science itself can actually be called Magecraft(as can being able to hack shit... yes really, that's the point of the Extra series).

Kara no Kyoukai Special Pamphlet - Encyclopedia: Magecraft [Others], p.038-039 [T]
Magecraft [Others]
A general term representing activities that artificially re-enact Mysteries/Miracles
.
Although there were some differences depending on traditions and schools, the basic principle was still "the transformation of the magical energy that exists within the practitioner or the environment".
The practitioner would issue Commands according to the Foundation (System) of his school, and this would cause the execution of a predetermined Program.
Magical energy was the electrical current required to deliver the command.
Although magecraft gave the impression of omnipotence, it fundamentally produced Mystery through the principle of equivalent exchange.
It was possible to transform one thing into another, but it was impossible to produce something from nothing.
However, the essence of magecraft as a discipline was to challenge that "Nothingness", and endeavor towards the impossible. Large-scale spells such as the so-called Grand Sorceries, Grand Rituals were really purposeless if not for attempting to reach " " (Kara) or True Magic.
Kara no Kyoukai was a story of one magus' attempt at challenging "Nothingness".

And we get further proof from Assassin Jack The Ripper's and Atalante Alter's Noble Phantasms that they are Curses that can be blocked with enough Magic Resistance.

So why would Jujutsu Kaisen's Curses be exempt when Magecraft in the Nasuverse covers Curses? Especially when Mages have in fact killed people with curses alot(Hell, Beryl's main Magecraft is Curses)
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I Can Say the same for you so apply your own advice before giving them to other. Otherwise you come across as patronising.But yeah it an impasse, 4 pages of arguments about a fictional character are not worth it. I don't find your evidence convincing.

Then you just suck at Critical Thinking then... hell, I would legit say you are worse than that considering the deluge of evidence and them walking you through all of it.
Bounded Fields, one of the basic tenants of being a Mage and even creating a workshop, is something Mages can casually do if they know it and that has them isolating space itself:

Fate/complete material III: World material - Theory of Magic - Magecraft: Barrier, p.047
Barrier
Defined as boundaries that divide the world
, barriers have the meaning of “punctuation.” Magically, however, barriers serve to separate inside from outside, and then enact an effect on the inside, or the boundary line itself.
Two types of barriers exist. The first applies a process on terrain, buildings, etc. to create a boundary between inside and outside. The second involves encircling a prepared component and then cutting the space off. The former includes wards that are used to protect a magus’ mansion or land, designed as defensive measures against other magi, or security measures. The latter would include uses such as the encircling of a specific ground area using rope woven from hair imbued with mystic energy, the drawing of magic circles, and so forth.
An example of an effect exerted on a barrier’s boundary line would be the alarm ward surrounding the Emiya residence that announces the presence of intruders.
An easily understood example of an effect exerted on the interior of a barrier would be the Noble Phantasm “Outsider Seal — Fresh Blood Temple (Blood Fort Andromeda)” used by Rider. As a Noble Phantasm, its wicked function far outstrips that of conventional barriers, dissolving the humans within the boundary, converting them into energy, and absorbing them.

Like this is the most basic thing and that's not counting Cu preparing for his Thrown Gae Bolg Noble Phantasm distorted Space through the sheer levels of Magical Energy put into it either. It gets more ridiculous from there.
 

Piratepizzaking

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Overlord


Well with Japanese if the kanji for world is "sekai" it's got three meanings, world, universe, or society, because of the "society" option we get people low balled to things like town level or country level, if the kanji for world was "Hoshi" then should be pretty definitive on referring to the actual planet
 
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shiny

Paramount
Well with Japanese if the kanji for world is "sekai" it's got three meanings, world, universe, or society, because of the "society" option we get people low balled to things like town level or country level, if the kanji for world was "Hoshi" then it's pretty definitive on referring to the actual planet
This is also true, only in the Novella they described the world in the literal sense.

Here's a quote.

Instant. The world engraved on the shield began to move and swell. The tiny world unfolded in front of the shield,
Space and time were reconstructed.
The only thing that could counter the god-killing spear was the very world itself, the defensive treasure.
Since they have signed a contract of giving and receiving, and above all, since their wills are unified, this shield will be activated as the treasure of the temporary Black Rider.

"Ugh, ugh...!"
The spear of the God Killer bites into the world and tries to destroy it. It melts, boils and overruns the world with terrifying force.
But, however.
'You're lying, aren't you ......'
Cowles exclaims. The light of the spear, which had seemed invincible, was completely blocked by the shield.
If the god-killing spear, 'Sunwheel, follow death', would destroy every being that is 'the only one'.
People, armies, castles, everything.
But even if you can kill God, you cannot kill the world. Destroying God would only result in a world without God. The vast heavens, the earth and the sea will spread out in vast expanses even if the gods are destroyed, and humanity as a whole will continue to sing triumphantly.
That is the "world" in which Achilles lived.
It is the world itself that can oppose the god-killers.
The raised arm is broken. Gritting his teeth, he supported the broken arm with his other arm. The "black" rider, just enduring the signals of intense pain in a foolish manner, shouts at the top of his voice."
 

Piratepizzaking

Active member
But even if you can kill God, you cannot kill the world. Destroying God would only result in a world without God. The vast heavens, the earth and the sea will spread out in vast expanses even if the gods are destroyed, and humanity as a whole will continue to sing triumphantly.

This, these lines right here are as clear as you can get on them referring to the planet, and not just society

Like if I replaced world with Greece which would be the society that would just sound weird, "you cannot kill the Greece"

Or
"Destroying God would only result in a Greece without God"
 

Looking at the first post, it's absolutely gonna be Overlord... seriously, one of the most wanked series that it's best feats come from Crossovers.

This, these lines right here are as clear as you can get on them referring to the planet, and not just society

Like if I replaced world with Greece which would be Greece that would just sound weird, "you cannot kill the Greece"

Or
"Destroying God would only result in a Greece without God"

To basically explain it better because shiny sure as shit won't:

It would encompass the Greek Texture(or Layered World to make it more obvious) only... however, given how we see the Lostbelts and the Age of The Gods, it would be Planetary+ anyway as it would be that, the Greek Afterlife(including Olympus) and a decent amount of actual space to an unquantifiable degree.
We can tell that's the case as Achilles Profile for Ahkellius Kosmos states what we know for awhile and that's that Divine Spirits can create Textures and that's what Hephaestus did. So it's explicitly a Planetary Tier defense that only 2 people destroyed:

Karna and Lostbelt Artemis(Basically Artemis in general).
 
Oh yeah things are in texture's/ layers kinda forgot about that


Here you go, I plan on giving it a bit of a retooling but otherwise, it's pretty thorough on what a Texture is and what it encompasses. The big thing to watch out is that while there can be one Texture taking over the entire surface of the Planet, it however doesn't mean there can't be more than one Texture on the Planet at once.
 
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