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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Xhominid The Apex said:

I still to this day cannot understand how Spacebattles believe being able to fly by itself means anything in a battle...
If you are able to fly like Superman and fly far faster than your opponent, then it wouldn't matter either way. if you can fly at the same speed your opponent can react to, it's not much of a boost because while yes, you can move on 3D, that's not much of a boon because of the fact that the opponent can and will meet you head on.

And if you specialize in long range attacks and they don't, flying doesn't give you a huge edge there either because your long range attacks would still be huge because you are far away and they need to be close to attack you.

The problem here is that nothing I see here from Fern would suddenly mean it's a danger to Gaara, especially in the field where he fought Kimimaro at because that's where he can create whole ass sandstorms even then, making the advantage null and void.
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I mean

Gaara can also fly. He uses his sand like a nimbus cloud more than once.

And the best defense against Soul Track is "high density magical (chakra) shields" which is what his sand gourd and thus personal protection is

And the best offense against standard magical shields is "throw lots of mass at it" which is kinda Gaara's whole thing

And he's faster than her even if you grant Mach 300 reactions.

Gaara is nearly a perfect counter to Frieren :skully
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
I mean

Gaara can also fly. He uses his sand like a nimbus cloud more than once.

And the best defense against Soul Track is "high density magical (chakra) shields" which is what his sand gourd and thus personal protection is

And the best offense against standard magical shields is "throw lots of mass at it" which is kinda Gaara's whole thing

And he's faster than her even if you grant Mach 300 reactions.

Gaara is nearly a perfect counter to Frieren :skully
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It's actually Fern he's facing, not Frieren and this is Part 1 Gaara... but I'm certain even Part 1 Gaara can fly as shown in his battle against Kimimaro so that doesn't matter worth shit so yeah.
 

Visualization in Frieren is generally only the first step to doing magic, and is affected by logic, mindset and other things. For normal people, it works closer to normal mindset and can do atittude. Can you visualise scaling this wall? Swiming this much longer? Someone like Frieren or Serie might be unable to visualise directly bypassing Infinity (the infinite distance it creates), but they could very well visualise a counterspell to bypass it.

Ubel is kind of a madwoman that goes off completely on instinct and ignores higher logic, so things get much weirder.

Her attacks can absolutely cut anything she thinks it can cut, HOWEVER, they can never cut anything she thinks she can't cut.

To use the canon exemple of her killing a first class mage with the robe artifact. If that guy had a tenth of his power concentrated in a metal shield, it would have just bounced off without a scratch. Likewise, Ubel only did a mildly deep cut on the stone while easily cutting Sense's hair, something far more durable. She also can't visualise cutting defense shield for exemple.(edit: I meant the defense magic common to the setting.)

So the main question of the thread comes down to, does she have a first impression that she can cut Gojo? It's not something that can be decided for sure, because it's all in her own head.

Personally, I think she can, if only she has no knowledge of Infinity.
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If this is genuinely how Frieren's spell system works in the context of it going through certain attacks or characters and how it functions, I genuinely have no idea how hard people wank the setting this damn hard.

I had a feeling even watching that video where they basically don't really show the reason why Ubel cutting that Mage's cloth to be utterly ridiculous even in their own setting, it just makes it ludicrous they think it should be able to cut something she cannot believe she can cut(Which if we go by his explanation, she believed she can cut it only because for her, it's just cloth, it reminds me of sometimes a series will have a character do insane things because they fundamentally don't understand why it's crazy to do it in the first place.) and applying it to everyone else is just disingenuous.
So yeah, why would she cut through Infinity if she ultimately has no understanding or believing she can cut through it? The fact this goes 2 pages further either means this explanation is bogus or it's the typical deal in SB-land.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:

I still to this day cannot understand how Spacebattles believe being able to fly by itself means anything in a battle...
If you are able to fly like Superman and fly far faster than your opponent, then it wouldn't matter either way. if you can fly at the same speed your opponent can react to, it's not much of a boost because while yes, you can move on 3D, that's not much of a boon because of the fact that the opponent can and will meet you head on.

And if you specialize in long range attacks and they don't, flying doesn't give you a huge edge there either because your long range attacks would still be huge because you are far away and they need to be close to attack you.

The problem here is that nothing I see here from Fern would suddenly mean it's a danger to Gaara, especially in the field where he fought Kimimaro at because that's where he can create whole ass sandstorms even then, making the advantage null and void.
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Gaara not only can fly, he also have experience fighting flying opponent. He almost win vs Deidara who can fly too, only lose because he have to protect the village while fighting Deidara.

Oh the thread is talking about Part 1 Gaara. How strong is Fern's attack to destroy Gaara's shield? Once again people seems to just say she can. There is a video about Fern fighting some guy but the guy doesn't seems as strong as Gaara part 1, neither does her attack. And Part 1 Gaara also means fighting a guy who don't mind letting Shukaku loose. Gaara should win this, huge gap.
 
Salfarc said:
Oh the thread is talking about Part 1 Gaara. How strong is Fern's attack to destroy Gaara's shield? Once again people seems to just say she can. There is a video about Fern fighting some guy but the guy doesn't seems as strong as Gaara part 1, neither does her attack. And Part 1 Gaara also means fighting a guy who don't mind letting Shukaku loose. Gaara should win this, huge gap.
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Part 1 Gaara fought Kimimaro who basically makes Fern look like a nobody, especially with his bone constructs.
 
Gilgamesh can replicate this level of damage (the one about the arctic) in one go with his Np. Also no even if you multiply the energy needed to vaporize 12% of arctic ice by a hundreds time you won't get value of continent level.
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:chill spacebattle is where clown pretend to be physicists
 
We literally get confirmation from the author that the amount of Ice Caps that was melted is enough to basically equal the size of Spain...

Secondly, if you use the map of the Arctic Region and the size of Spain itself... Narita is actually RIGHT for once!(Again, insane how you have people who pretend they know their math say otherwise...)

and Third, by hundreds of times?! How stupid are these people?! If you are going by hundreds of times like exponents, Spain would be bigger than PANGAEA and practically cover the whole ass planet... and even multiplications is not much better either...
They are vastly overestimating the size of a continent's landmass when not every continent is the size of Asia...
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
MBXX made a special exception for Blade and Blade only.
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from perm ban tier of bans, i have returned twice, fang only once, after the second return of my perm ban, i gained one of my most iconic obd nicknames, blade of the immortal, lol, unlimited blade works, was back in my multi dupe era, before my second perm ban, in other words, it was one of those rare times jfxx had to push the revival button, for traffic reasons, too bad , that i stopped posting in fanzverse though, which is converted to a sb spin off section :mjlol
 
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. What the hell Ainz do with Causality Manipulation
 
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Kind of an old thread but god damn this is getting on my nerves

Accelerator kicks him and he dies and I'm struggling to think anything CRC can do to Accelerator. Accelerator managed to defeat a DF Magic God and get past Coronzon defenses and separate her soul from her body and her vector shield is powerful enough to block her flaming sword.

Though since the location for the fight is AC in character current Accelerator would refuse to fight and just go back to jail since he has faith AC could deal with the threat without his help (he also wants to stay in jail to be punished for everything he did) and would command his troops but won't fight directly. He already did this in canon when CRC was busy killing anti-skill in AC Accelerator still refused to come out and fight CRC directly.
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Yeah Accelerator refused to fight JVA directly because he'd fucking lose lol
Nerfed true Gremlin and Coronzon (both her avatar and her true form in the Abyss) are quite literally fodder to JVA.
Hell, they're fodder to a character (Anna Sprengel) who themselves is fodder to JVA.



And what do you know, that same character walked up to Accelerator while he was in jail and Accelerator could do fuck all to her in response to her shit talking:tupac
 
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what lol
aside from the other issues, GER has already reverted Giorno's death once, when Diavolo punches a hole in his chest at the beginning of the fight. While it's somewhat easy to miss, Diavolo's dialogue combined with GER's statements later make it clear this is what happened. Even if you kill Giorno, if you can't overpower GER's ability it's not doing much
 
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