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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Shirou with UBW can only defeat one very specific servant and no other, this is made clear. With even his future self who is a Servant being pretty much a mid tier one who can't stand up to any notable servant despite having actual servant stats unlike Shirou.

Even then the one servant he can defeat was pretty much giving Shirou every possible advantage he could have. No armor he usually wears to vastly increase his defences further, no engaging in actual physical combat where he is stronger, no Noble Phantasms he isn't suited or unable to copy. He was specifically engaging Shirou in a fight which favoured the only advantage he has, faster firing speed, because a mere human making inferior copies of his treasures hurt his ego. Even then, though Shirou landed a notable hit directly on Gilgamesh he was still around and kicking after Shirou ran out of mana, if the Grail hadn't decided to absorb him and Archer shooting him in the head things wouldn't have went well for Shirou.
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We are talking about the same Archer who, practically without Rin's recharge was able to kill Hercules 6 times, in the first meeting he almost accidentally killed Medea, fighting with the serious Cuchulainn, and was able to survive a volley of GOB at point-blank range.
 
Gordo said:
Jack is definitely not FEP
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yeah they arent similar at all. fep has no idea what he’s talking about, he just copy+pastes stuff he finds from “debunk” threads that either lacks or deliberately omits context. Jack actually HAS read these comics, he just goes with the most insane low ends imaginable (he brought up Hulk being pierced by a hypodermic needle as a legitimate feat that should be considered)
 
shiny said:

We are talking about the same Archer who, practically without Rin's recharge was able to kill Hercules 6 times, in the first meeting he almost accidentally killed Medea, fighting with the serious Cuchulainn, and was able to survive a volley of GOB at point-blank range.
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At this point, LightspeedZephyr is just being the embodiment of every reason why Spacebattles is a joke.
He states that EMIYA is a Mid-Tier Servant when he was able to fight against Artoria under Rin so well despite having very little magical energy, she believes he would be tougher if he was at full strength:

Here, Artoria regains her true powers by becoming Rin's servant (she's no longer nerfed like she was under Shirou). Here, with Rin as her master, Artoria would not even lose to Herakles as she is now. Here, EMIYA charges Artoria, attacks Artoria with all his might, Artoria repels EMIYA's blow and forces him to lose balance. Here, EMIYA blocks Artoria's strikes, he's left unable to counterattack. Here, the match ends fairly quick, EMIYA is forced to his knees and has to block Artoria's last vertical slash with both his swords. Here, Artoria muses EMIYA would have performed better had he not been running on fumes. Here, EMIYA is left with no magical energy due to the number of Noble Phantasms he used to end Medea's life (on top of already being depleted from fighting Cu Chulainn). Here, Artoria's sword in her current sword lock with EMIYA is loosened enough by EMIYA's words that EMIYA uses the opening to kick her 5 meters away.
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Which becomes funny because he basically fights Shirou after that with only less than 1/10th of his overall magical energy levels:

Here, EMIYA's body is only half responding, his remaining strength/magical energy is only 1/10th his original power (his stamina, unless you're batshit crazy enough to call reinforced Kuzuki 1/10th as strong as EMIYA), and his muscles are weak (which seems like it's meaningless later on during the fight).
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It's the same problem you see all the time except it's worse:



Even without the major context of the VN, these fights STILL make Frieren coming off as superior a joke, it's also the same issue with the "Mach Cone" that he also tries to bring up with Stark fighting the Dragon but if we are going with that, Heracles did the same thing and moved even FASTER in the HF Movies and EMIYA still fought Heracles going all out to kill him in the Fate Route.

It's the typical shit you see all the time in SB: Dudes wanting to downplay franchises to put up others even if there's no way they would otherwise stand a chance(It's why you have people genuinely believing that Mahoraga and Sukuna are somehow "High Tier Servants" when they wouldn't even be able to match the typical Mage) not because we may have genuinely missed something, it's just that come off "more impressive" because they are as blind as a bat when it comes to eyeballing feats.
 

Tenjiro vs Unohana

Shikai vs Bankai Same setting as canon engagement but everyone else is spectating : Vs
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4 PAGES? :heston

Now TBF I am genuinely surprised that most seem to be in agreement that Unohana gets fucking one-shotted by Tenjiro (and any other RG member for that matter, sealed or not) but the fact that ANYONE at all is arguing otherwise will never not be funny to me.

"Oh but Askin beat Oetsu and later Tenjiro." :smh

He also face-planted Ichigo and beat Yoruichi, no idea what the fuck makes them think Unohana would fare better? :maybe
 
Paxton said:




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Mmmm, you were sayin'?
 
The Shinigami thought having their Bankai stolen from the Quincy was bad?

Knight Leader: That’s a nice sword. And now that I’ve seen it, it’s powers are rendered null and it can’t cut through paper by being turned to 0
 
Masterblack06 said:

@Xhominid The Apex @CrossTheHorizon

Niggas are weird
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Idk why people are so weird about Lloyd, bro spends like eighty percent of the series as either an abstract drawing because people are talking about non-magic stuff or wearing a hideous rape face because he's experimenting on someone




Kid looks like this whenever he's fighting :skully
 
Adamant soul said:

Tenjiro vs Unohana

Shikai vs Bankai Same setting as canon engagement but everyone else is spectating : Vs
www.fanverse.org www.fanverse.org
4 PAGES? :heston

Now TBF I am genuinely surprised that most seem to be in agreement that Unohana gets fucking one-shotted by Tenjiro (and any other RG member for that matter, sealed or not) but the fact that ANYONE at all is arguing otherwise will never not be funny to me.

"Oh but Askin beat Oetsu and later Tenjiro." :smh

He also face-planted Ichigo and beat Yoruichi, no idea what the fuck makes them think Unohana would fare better? :maybe
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Askin can beat Galactus you know :mjlol
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
bruh i aint even get through the list and the entire OP planet just doesnt exist anymore :blobnotgood
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JUST TO PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE.

Moon Altera lose to Gilgamesh, this is canon.

People there argue Gil lose to Luffy by blitz, and even argue Luffy's precog can make him beat Gilgamesh.
 
CrossTheHorizon said:
Idk why people are so weird about Lloyd, bro spends like eighty percent of the series as either an abstract drawing because people are talking about non-magic stuff or wearing a hideous rape face because he's experimenting on someone




Kid looks like this whenever he's fighting :skully
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Its the goblin slayer effect.

Niggas saw one episode and immediately thought they knew everything
 
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