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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Paxton said:
"If that happened, it would be almost impossible for anyone to rival Carissa unless a true angel or possibly a Magic God stepped forward."
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Dude, the word rival here is talking about normal humans, it's saying that no normal human would be able to rival Carissa if she fully released Curtana and became immune to human magic.
After all, it is possible that human magic would not be able to harm her if she fully released Curtana Original’s power.

If that happened, it would be almost impossible for anyone to rival Carissa unless a true angel or possibly a Magic God stepped forward
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The next sentence begins with an 'unless' and stated it would instead take a magic god or an angel would defeat her.
If that happened, it would be almost impossible for anyone to rival Carissa unless a true angel or possibly a Magic God stepped forward
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The 'unless' here means something. It would be impossible for anyone to rival Carissa UNLESS a magic god or an angel stepps forward.

In simple English, that means a magic god or an angel would be enough to defeat Carissa.
Paxton said:
when did Gabriel and Fiamma fight again?
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I never said they did. You mentioned Gabriel distorting the world to its breaking point as proof of regular Fiamma being stronger than Othinus.

I said regular Fiamma does not scale to Gabriel because-
  • He would have also distorted the universe through his presence as Gabriel did had he been as strong as her, but he never did.
  • He would not have even bothered to summon her in WW3 if he were so stronger than her, but he explicitly needed her.
No human scales to an actual angel in any form, that's basically my point. They can draw a fraction of their power at best.
 
Darth Zion said:
Dude, the word rival here is talking about normal humans, it's saying that no normal human would be able to rival Carissa if she fully released Curtana and became immune to human magic.

The next sentence begins with an 'unless' and stated it would instead take a magic god or an angel would defeat her.

Unless here means something. It would be impossible for anyone to rival Carissa UNLESS a magic god or an angel stepps forward.

In simple English, that means a magic god or an angel would be enough to defeat Carissa.

I never said they did. You mentioned Gabriel distorting the world to its breaking point as proof of regular Fiamma being stronger than Othinus.

I said regular Fiamma does not scale to Gabriel because-
  • He would have also distorted the universe through his presence as Gabriel did had he been as strong as her, but he never did.
  • He would not have even bothered to summon her in WW3 if he were so stronger than her, but he explicitly needed her.
No human scales to an actual angel in any form, that's basically my point. They can draw a fraction of their power at best.
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If it takes a true angel or a Magic God to step forward for anyone to rival her.. then that means she rivals them, and thus both statements (them rivalling each other and being enough to defeat her) can be true at once. I don't get your point.

And you did say they fought though.
"The logic is that Fiamma went against Gabriel and got literally stomped to the ground like a petulant child."

In reference to me asking this "I really don't understand the logic of Fiamma being weaker than Othinus".

Regardless, I do agree on the Idol Theory part here.
 
Paxton said:
The logic is that Fiamma went against Gabriel and got literally stomped to the ground like a petulant child."
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Ah. That was a mistype, I meant Othinus here.
Paxton said:
If it takes a true angel or a Magic God to step forward for anyone to rival her..
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That is literally what it does not say. You do know English, right? Do you know what the word unless means?

Unless basically means except if and is used to introduce the case in which a statement being made is not true or valid. Read your quote again and replace unless with except if to understand it better.
After all, it is possible that human magic would not be able to harm her if she fully released Curtana Original’s power.

If that happened, it would be almost impossible for anyone to rival Carissa unless a true angel or possibly a Magic God stepped forward
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Normal humans= impossible to rival Carissa
Magic Gods and Angels= stomp her to the ground.

That's basically what it says in a dumbed down version. I don't know how to explain this better, should I walk you through the entire grammar or something? Someone help @Paxton read the quote above, I'm giving up.
 
Darth Zion said:
That was a mistype, I meant Othinus here.

That is literally what it does not say. You do know English, right? Do you know what the word unless means?

Unless basically means except if and is used to introduce the case in which a statement being made is not true or valid. Read your quote again and replace unless with except if to understand it better.

Normal humans= impossible to rival Carissa
Magic Gods and Angels= stomp her to the ground.

That's basically what it says in a dumbed down version. I don't know how to explain this better, should I walk you through the entire grammar or something? Someone help @Paxton read the quote above, I'm giving up.
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It says UNLESS a true angel or Magic God steps forward, no one can rival her.

Which means if they step forward, they rival each other. That's what the word "unless" implies.

It doesn't say they stomp her into the ground. It says they CAN rival and defeat her. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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itt: what i want to do, to like 99% of the posters in the whole olf forum :heston
 
Anyway we should just make a Carissa vs Acqua thread if we're going to continue this discussion
 
Paxton said:
It says UNLESS a true angel or Magic God steps forward, no one can rival her
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Which is why I posted the previous sentence.

The context behind it is that it is stated just before that Carissa can make herself invulnerable to human magic if she unlock Curtana Original's true powers- this, making it impossible for anyone to rival her. Unless an angel or a magic god steps forward.

This basically means that the powers of Magic Gods and Angels would be able to harm Carissa since they don't use human magic- not that they all somehow become equal in power, context is important.
 
Cryso Agori said:
Welp the same shit I was complaining about happened again

What diff does Meguna give Heian Sukuna in pure hands?

Heian Sukuna goes up against Meguna in a battle of pure hands. No CT, no DE, no cursed tools. Only CE Reinforcement and RCT are allowed. Now it's obvious to everyone who's literate that Heian Sukuna slams, but how hard does he slam?
www.fanverse.org www.fanverse.org

Apparently Sukuna can now beat Toji with no CE.
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I'm not even sure how that's possible but whatever, at this point JJK fans just make shit up.
 
Paxton said:
Sounds like something way too slow and way too weak to even be in the same zip code as Accelerator :char

At least from what I've been reading.
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the ony guy mentioned planet level fire power and im just like
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itsnt accel like far above that by this point
 
Paxton said:
Depends on how much Ainz moved when blitzing the lightspeed guy, to be fair.

At least I'm assuming that's how things went down.

@Randomdude
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Really late reply on this one I honestly didn't even get a notification for it. But to answer this for one don't take it at face value, but second. Ainz at one point has a level ninety monster he created smash a single tentacle in front of gazefs face, it happened so quickly even fully buffed with the kingdoms equipment and using technique that explicitly buff his perception he couldn't even see it until after it'd cratered the ground next to him. (this creature was ten meters tall without accounting for the tentacles that make it significantly taller/longer. This means an object of significant girth/length/size was able to move so fast as to be invisible to said supposedly "Light speed" character)

If you scaling from there with ainz being stronger then those creatures and considering them generally only good as large meat shields with high health... And that fact ainz manages to stop time before the guy even takes a full step...I don't know how you reach 100x but he would be much faster than ftl...Again assuming your for some reason entertaining the idea it's actually light speed and gazef scales to it

Which just to be clear you absolutely should not.

Darth Zion said:
In that thread, people are arguing Ainz would survive Balefire

:hestonpls
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My understanding is they're rather erroneously equating bale fire to overlords own brand of existence erasure but Im pretty sure bale fire is far more impressive. All overlord ee does is erase you from existence and prevent any form of resurrection...Outside the one "Undo/revive someone erased from existence" world item...Which of course is a thing because....Why wouldn't it be?

Xhominid The Apex said:
Again, SB is known for basically arguing VS. debates more like they are storylines but Overlord fanboys take that shit to the next level.
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Being fair Id say ainz in general would have little issue with the night king (Unless he's more impressive then I remember/am aware of) or elsa (I heard she got some more feats in the second movie but unless she got some truly major buffs she's not really well suited to such a battle)...But they're also the two that feel incredibly out of place on this list in general.
 
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