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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

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Astaro said:
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Sure you could claim Saber is just Waifu Bait...so long as you blatantly ignore the multiple flashbacks and basically the entirety of the Fate Route from Day 3 onward that specifically explored Saber's character. :really

She was never NOT a complex character so Fate Zero didn't do a God Damned thing.
 
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Ultimate Madoka 1-A

Madoka, at the end the series, defeated the Witch of Despair, definitively erasing the concept of witches from every single time-line, past, present and future. The Madoka Magica verse is composed of infinite universes. This feat gives Madoka a baseline feat 2-A (multiversal+). She has complete...
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read through this and found the reason they’re arguing for “outerversal madoka” and it’s just…this
In the Newtipe magazine released in December 2012, it is stated that Madoka ascended into a meta-conceptual world (referring to the pure white void that Kyubei spoke of).
In a meta-conceptual world, concepts have a higher order than reality, so beyond the concepts.
Meaning of "meta" ( μετά).
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going by this definition it would mean Goddess Madoka is “beyond or after” concepts, but nothing about that really indicates the concepts themselves are on their own superior to reality, and it’s not mentioned in the magazine at all beyond being called a meta-conceptual realm
 
That’s like arguing your average Devil in Chainsaw Man is Outerversal because they embody a concept of fear that fucks up reality when they get erased by the Chainsaw Devil

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it might be based on her becoming a concept of Hope thats above the multiverse or whatever but even then her becoming that concept seems to also be when she’s in the “meta conceptual realm” so it doesn’t seem like she could scale to both and it’s have to be one or the other
 
I’m going to stick with the scope of her powers being limited control over an infinite multiverse with the potential to destroy it all should she stop giving a fuck at best
 
Adamant soul said:
Sure you could claim Saber is just Waifu Bait...so long as you blatantly ignore the multiple flashbacks and basically the entirety of the Fate Route from Day 3 onward that specifically explored Saber's character. :really

She was never NOT a complex character so Fate Zero didn't do a God Damned thing.
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Actually, Fate Zero NUKED her character because Urobuchi didn't read Garden of Avalon(which explains how fucked Britain was in so many words and why Saber had her ruthless, no nonsense personality from the start) but he didn't even read Fate/Stay Night...

Which meant his Saber was basically his own imaginative take on the character and didn't understand her in the slightest.

Kirei Kotomine is even worse because F/Z acts as if Gilgamesh gave him the epiphany he was born evil and that's why Kirei was like that when in F/Z, Kotomine knew he was evil since he was TEN and spent most of his life trying to deny that by jumping into everything full blast(Mage, Executor, Husband) which is why he's so massively conflicted in ultimately being a born evil guy but with a moral consciousness due to how he was taught and raised and why he ultimately HATES the fact he isn't just a normal person.

The best anecdote you can ever give Fate/Zero is that it's a show where every goddamned adult acts like a fucking teenager... except for Waver who actually acts like an adult.
 

I can never understand the Hidan downplay, especially in regards to characters in JJK.
He's a Kakashi tier fighter(which is already out of JJK's league outside of Gojo and Sukuna) whose capable of fighting Jinchikurri without being torn to pieces and his ability hardcounters the fuck out of Sukuna thanks to the recent two chapters.

Even his loss against Shikamaru had PIS written all over it to justify it. I have no idea why SB treats him as if he's a nobody moreso than anyone else in Naruto?
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
Even his loss against Shikamaru had PIS written all over it to justify it. I have no idea why SB treats him as if he's a nobody moreso than anyone else in Naruto?
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Bold of you to assume SB's Naruto scaling makes sense- half the people there genuinely think that nobody in Naruto is supersonic except for Gai and Lee, including Six Paths characters.
 
Darth Zion said:
Bold of you to assume SB's Naruto scaling makes sense- half the people there genuinely think that nobody in Naruto is supersonic except for Gai and Lee, including Six Paths characters.
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Oh no, I fully know and have documented that nonsense on so many occasions and find it stupid as shit(Especially as they use the page with Temari about to blow away Tayuya's Chakra/Influence as the reason why Naruto characters are subsonic).

It's just they absolutely dumpster Hidan almost as much, if not moreso than any other Naruto character which is absolutely ridiculous considering WE know that Hidan's Jutsu has alot of flaws, the characters after seeing Asuma's death knew it's weaknesses, Sukuna won't even get THAT.
 
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