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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever


Boy, as much as I don't like Alcides as a character, it's a whole different time for SB to lie outright about the man's abilities this hard...

Alcides has the tools to effectively kill EVERYONE in the Elite Guard without any problem.

- Nianzol gets his powers devoured by Hydra Venom if not get torn apart by Nine Lives regardless

- Pernida is perma-fucked if it gets scratched by Hydra Venom and Alcides should still have Mind's Eye meaning it knows when Pernida's attacks are coming at him regardless meaning stealth means nothing(Also makes it really dumb to use when MAYURI can effectively dodge them)

- Lille's Intangibility doesn't mean shit considering in the Nasuverse, enough Magical Energy can hit intangible targets and Lille isn't even a true intangible in the first place. Add in Hydra Venom and Lille is screwed

- And Gerard is in a similar fashion considering all he is just a weaker Gugulanna.

And this isn't even getting into Reincarnation Pandora just allows him to steal their Schrifts so...
 

There are layers.

Berserker is just a normal resurrection, Nine Lives stop it and thats it.

The miracle brought Gerard back eVen when it's powers were negated.

You have to establish that Nine Lives resurrection negation, work on someone, immune to power negation.
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Can kill Immortal, undying and no concept of life creatures
Is not the same as Gerard's ability
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Nine Lives: The Shooting Hundred Heads

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Among Hercules’ Noble Phantasms, he trusted this one the most. It was the Noble Phantasm which Hercules used to slay the immortal nine-headed serpent Hydra once upon a time, taking the form of bow and arrow. After killing the Hydra, Hercules could even utilise techniques that emulate the ability of this Noble Phantasm when wielding other weapons. In essence, it is “a high speed attack consisting of nine consecutive strikes, as swift as if the attacks are overlapping”. Even when delivered via sword, spear, or axe, this technique still boasts power on the level of Noble Phantasms. Also, just like Cú Chulainn’s demonic spear Gae Bolg has a technique called “Gae Bolg – Piercing Death Thorn”, Hercules’ technique shares the “Nine Lives – Shooting of Hundred Heads” name with the Noble Phantasm.
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Apparently Immortality isn't as cracked up as it used to be.
 
Masterblack06 said:
Keep going from what though, He still needs material to mold around his soul to regenerate. He can't create more body from nothing
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??

That is literally how his regeneration works

Damage to his body is superficial because it's not damaging his soul
 
Paxton said:
??

That is literally how his regeneration works

Damage to his body is superficial because it's not damaging his soul
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Yeah but he isnt making more matter, hes just reshaping the matter hes already got. Unless you think that if he got atomized he would just spawn into existence which we have no prescendent for

We've seen this type of regeneration before in another series. I cant remember the name of it though
 
Xhominid The Apex said:

Boy, as much as I don't like Alcides as a character, it's a whole different time for SB to lie outright about the man's abilities this hard...

Alcides has the tools to effectively kill EVERYONE in the Elite Guard without any problem.

- Nianzol gets his powers devoured by Hydra Venom if not get torn apart by Nine Lives regardless

- Pernida is perma-fucked if it gets scratched by Hydra Venom and Alcides should still have Mind's Eye meaning it knows when Pernida's attacks are coming at him regardless meaning stealth means nothing(Also makes it really dumb to use when MAYURI can effectively dodge them)

- Lille's Intangibility doesn't mean shit considering in the Nasuverse, enough Magical Energy can hit intangible targets and Lille isn't even a true intangible in the first place. Add in Hydra Venom and Lille is screwed

- And Gerard is in a similar fashion considering all he is just a weaker Gugulanna.

And this isn't even getting into Reincarnation Pandora just allows him to steal their Schrifts so...
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Alchides use Pandora to steal their schrifts lmao.
 
Salfarc said:
Alchides use Pandora to steal their schrifts lmao.
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But honestly, thanks to further clarification of Hydra Venom and how ludicrous Hydra Venom + Grail Mud combos are, Alcides doesn't even need that much to win past just use them both and spam Nine Lives:

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I wonder if @ChaosTheory123 think of using Streamable for his GIF/WEBM needs from now on...
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The magical energy coated in dusky mud reacted complexly with the hydra miasma the
arrowtips were laced with, provoking an enormous distortion in space as they traversed the gaps
between the ground and the sky.
With a thunderous noise, clouds of dust rose, engulfed in the world distortion caused by the
arrow shot, taking the form of a black-colored colossus.
The Hydra.
The trajectories of the nine arrows became nine jaws rushing to take a bite out of the world,
as did the legendary serpent he once sent to its grave.
An ordinary man would see only a black sandstorm, but anyone remotely sensitive to magical
energy could understand how abnormal this was.
It wasn't an illusion, much less Summoning Magecraft.
Through a combination of the overwhelming techniques that the always battle-ready hero
spent his life cultivating, the ominous spell of curse resembling jet-black mud which he obtained
in exchange for discarding his divine aura, and the sheer volume of magical energy supplied by
his Master, Nine Lives finally developed the move that manifested its former nemesis into the
world.
Needless to say, this wasn't the real Hydra, only an almost miraculous feat created by a part
of the Noble Phantasm that put the legendary poison dragon to rest.
This force traversed the world, bending the laws of fate and physics to its will.
Last
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Considering the fact that the combo was fighting Gugulanna the entire time head on, I would say the Elite Sternritter are just fucked taking this shit on.
Just cutting Alcides is a death sentence when the Grail Mud will just kill you all the same(I love when people act like it's JUST Servants when Shirou and Rin explicitly stated they will die being dunked into that shit without a plan) just by looking at it, let alone taking a dip or getting it on you, Hydra Venom + Grail Mud just fucks you up.
 
Papa Nier said:
How potent is his regeneration?

Regeneration

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Not even remotely enough to be what Astaro is aiming for...
Not even Mahoraga has shown to be able to infinitely regenerate even after enough Adaptations to regenerate after being reduced to splatter on the wall.
It's a massive misunderstanding of how RCT works in conjunction with the Soul(Because if it worked that way, Sukuna wouldn't be currently dead)
 
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Unknown (She survived her own attack)
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How was this approved? When VsBattles ask scans for everything?

My god...
That 70S Show Lol GIF by Laff
 

Not really. Almighty Thor's effectiveness drops massively the moment there's more than one thing to worry about, since it only works on a single target and he can't switch it fast enough to fully avoid a train after hearing it.
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Thor nerfed of all his other powers and dropped to the level of a human. And he used his powers in time to avoid an outright collision with the train anyway.

He only “lost” because he decided to hand Touma the win after that stunt with the train left him impressed enough to be satisfied with their fight.

At his best, he’s got the reflexes to keep up with one of the strongest Saints in the series while still not going all out

So, basically Magic equivalent per Rule 13 else there is gonna be the magic/soul damage is needed to harm Servants
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Not even Rule 13 applies here since that would only equate Toaru’s Magic system with Nasu’s

Frillsand #G explicitly not only isn’t magic, but isn’t even supernatural but an entirely natural phenomenon that Touma’s Imagine Breaker has no effect on.

On the plus side, as a result only Shiki will be affected by her whole neither of the Servants would be affected by her too
 
Sounds like a stalemate at least imo

Frillsand's immortality is actually pretty insane
 
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