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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

I mean it's not like Grimmjow lost his reiatsu completely(He did get nerfed by losing his arm but I digress) but yeah, it's just that time Kubo didn't want Grimmjow to die because he obviously wants him to be Ichigo's THE Rival.

its not like he became d-roy levels, obv, but you dont get the point, if hollow masked bankai ichigo had landed that final strong getsuga, chances are, that grimmjow would had been hakaid, lets be real, and was already badly damaged, thats what i am saying, not in healthy condition, and his arm was missing, along with his rank, and he was weaker/nerfed to a certain limit, but still, he did what he did against masked shinji, thats why that version of grimmjow, still gets props, it was one of his many hitting/surviving above his weight class feats, thats what i am saying

but yeah, plus cuz he chad, kubo kept him alive even for the later parts, and made him much stronger, as we seen
 
Headcanon is one thing when it comes to Bleach but this shit is absolute fucking denial to the highest degree at this point.
The Manga literally has Yhwach see TS Ichigo > Dangai Ichigo(Who literally has seen all of the Soul Reaper fights), they even bring up that Ichigo's reiatsu of him "truly getting serious" literally has him be seen as "not truly vulnerable" due to how much reiatsu he's pouring out:
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And this is not counting Horn of Salvation(Which hurt Soul King Yhwach) and his Bankai(Which Yhwach made it absolute priority to break) but somehow... somehow
Dangai Ichigo is still stronger because of... demeanor and soloing Aizen? You mean the Aizen that grew stronger than that and yet is still seen getting torn apart by all of Yhwach's attacks unlike Ichigo?

There's headcanon and then there's delusion.
But True Shikai dealt NO DAMAGE to Base Moustache (just ignore the fact he tore his strongest defence and still dropped him with relative ease), clearly he's still weaker than Base Moustache. :facepalm
@Xhominid The Apex

we've reached a new level of stupidity never reached before


FKT Aizen > Shutara because ganju felt her bankai :mjlol
Yet Ichigo who fought Monster Aizen specifically said RG reiatsu was "beyond reason". That apparently means nothing to these people.

At this point, you can literally pick any post from here and basically hit exactly what this thread is about point blank:



...So we are going to ignore the context that:
  • Isshin didn't even use his Shikai against Cocoon Aizen
  • Yourichi didn't even use any of her advanced Shunko Forms
  • Urahara didn't even try to use anything past his Bankai
And they were still dealing huge damage to him, the man is dead right when Isshin uses Getsuga without the Hogyoku.

If the last and more specifically the anime (and Kubo's recent statements) has KILLED anybody's hype it's Aizen just in general. I mean all of a sudden the man would exhaust himself against Unohana even with KS, Moustache directly says he could beat him (it'd just take too long) and Ichigo who fought Aizen is far more impressed with RG reiatsu. :maybe

Aizen got fucking BURIED!:heston
Meanwhile Askin looks better because:
- Askin required not only Yourichi's advanced Shunko techniques, but her most hated technique due to robbing her intelligence and Urahara not only requiring his Bankai, but getting Grimmjow's assistance to defeat.

Who the hell believes that Cocoon Aizen "defeating the 3" is supposed to make him look good anymore after the shit we've seen?
Only people who want to desperately clutch on to the transcendent bullshit that has clearly been phased out.
So we are supposed to forget that Gin killing him forced him into that new form right? So is Gin now stronger than Urahara, Yourichi and Isshin? He has to be with this retarded ass chain scaling.
"Nah his Bankai is just super potent because that's totally how that works right"?
Wow... this really means something at this point... oh wait, it doesn't after Aizen getting even stronger can still be stopped by The Underbelly and be torn to shit by Soul King Yhwach throwing out palm blasts...
True Shikai Ichigo basically did the same fucking shit to Base Moustache is the funny thing, hell he did it better if anything 'cause Aizen was at least able to DAMAGE Dangai Ichigo's arm slightly whereas Moustache needed The Almighty to do ANYTHING.
 
But True Shikai dealt NO DAMAGE to Base Moustache (just ignore the fact he tore his strongest defence and still dropped him with relative ease), clearly he's still weaker than Base Moustache. :facepalm

Let's not forget even when Base Yhwach went Almighty, it wasn't that Ichigo was suddenly no match or was weak as shit, Yhwach still had to put in loads of effort just to put Ichigo down for a bit in the first place. Even after that, dude had to defend himself from Chad and Yourichi, let alone Ichigo again.
Dudes acting as if Yhwach was styling over everyone when he had to use Precog hax to stay in the fight.

Yet Ichigo who fought Monster Aizen specifically said RG reiatsu was "beyond reason". That apparently means nothing to these people.

Like I said before, people have no ability to comprehend anything except what they want to hear... SB is insanely guilty of this even compared to other battleboards past the ones that know they tend to troll more than be serious.

And they were still dealing huge damage to him, the man is dead right when Isshin uses Getsuga without the Hogyoku.

If the last and more specifically the anime (and Kubo's recent statements) has KILLED anybody's hype it's Aizen just in general. I mean all of a sudden the man would exhaust himself against Unohana even with KS, Moustache directly says he could beat him (it'd just take too long) and Ichigo who fought Aizen is far more impressed with RG reiatsu. :maybe

Aizen got fucking BURIED!:heston

He did and that's what makes this shit so ironic:
Kubo basically dumpstered the shit out of Aizen in the grand scheme by having Unohana fighting him would exhaust him, he was afraid of Starrk, Yhwach would have ultimately defeated him and Kubo also confirmed that it would have just taken too long and yeah, Ichigo outright sees the Royal Palace Guards way past Aizen.

Only people who want to desperately clutch on to the transcendent bullshit that has clearly been phased out.

Like I said before, Aizen's reiatsu can be seen and sensed in his new powered up form... but apparently transcendent shit has not be phased out because look at what the Director said here despite the main element of Transcendent shit being laid to rest(The fact people can't sense Reiatsu unless they are on the same level). Also ignore that Yhwach's Spiritual Energy after absorbing the Soul King could be sensed too.

"Nah his Bankai is just super potent because that's totally how that works right"?

I want someone to say this dead ass lol.

True Shikai Ichigo basically did the same fucking shit to Base Moustache is the funny thing, hell he did it better if anything 'cause Aizen was at least able to DAMAGE Dangai Ichigo's arm slightly.

He did and that's what makes this shit hilarious. Yhwach couldn't do shit to him till he pulled out The Almighty and Ichigo had answers for everything he did(Yhwach even is surprised Ichigo is not going all out on him meaning that yes, Ichigo STILL wasn't going all out there)... but somehow, this isn't like Monster Aizen vs. Dangai Ichigo somehow means True Shikai Ichigo is a joke... holy shit...

meanwhile

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thats yeehaw's portrayal against ichigo's hits, when they connected, ''b-but ichigo didnt had enough power to beat him in 1vs1'' :mjlol

A reminder that Soul King Yhwach absorbed all of Ichigo's Quincy and Hollow powers there temporarily... and Soul Reaper Ichigo with his Bankai still did both of those :heston

Again, I want people to tell me dead ass that Ichigo looks bad really putting all of this together when Yhwach needed constant hax for Ichigo to not make him his bitch.
 
:jordangif
Curious how many captains are above stark level by this arc . I’ll pick 5 tell me how they do

1. Soifon
2. Rose
3. Shinji
4. Hitsugaya no adult form
5. Zaraki pre unohana training
People saying Stark beats ALL of these except Zaraki. :heston
 

Someone brings in the very earnest question if we keep using the "TS Ichigo getting carpeted by Askin" showing how weak he is, then how would that equate to Dangai Ichigo

The response:

Askin failed to drop (Shikai) Urahara and Yoruichi in the same way TS Ichigo got carpeted because they were "monsters", "frighteningly strong", and "too damn strong". Those two could train for a hundred years and still be multiple tiers of reiatsu crush away from Dangai Ichigo.

1+1=2

...These people are fucking retarded...

Askin has to use a stronger Gift Pool than normal to hold down Ichigo, didn't expect Ichigo to die at all and just keep him there
Askin uses a Triple Gift Bad attack against Yourichi and just surprised she's not dead
Absolutely fucks up Urahara so badly it's only his Bankai that has him not dead to rights
Somehow Dangai Ichigo will scale to this based on fucking nothing but "They failed to defeat Aizen" completely ignoring the fact they was still able to hurt Cocoon Aizen and not even going all out.
 
@Adamant soul @Qinglong @Blade
You guys wanna know how they keep saying that Urahara and Yourichi are far stronger than True Shikai Ichigo?

It's because of this:

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Let us fully understand the context here:
This is inside Askin's Gift Ball Deluxe and this was done because Urarhara was LIVID over Askin being with Yhwach was just to see what would happen if the 3 Worlds fell and that's ALL HE HAD IN THE TANK OTHERWISE until he used his Bankai to literally enhance himself.
And again, Blaze brings up Askin being surprised Yourichi didn't die against the Hybrid Gift Ball he hit her with... but completely ignored the fact that's ALL SHE COULD DO AT THAT POINT.

This is some truly insane shit to act as if they are stronger than TS Ichigo.
 
@Adamant soul @Qinglong @Blade
You guys wanna know how they keep saying that Urahara and Yourichi are far stronger than True Shikai Ichigo?

It's because of this:

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Let us fully understand the context here:
This is inside Askin's Gift Ball Deluxe and this was done because Urarhara was LIVID over Askin being with Yhwach was just to see what would happen if the 3 Worlds fell and that's ALL HE HAD IN THE TANK OTHERWISE until he used his Bankai to literally enhance himself.
And again, Blaze brings up Askin being surprised Yourichi didn't die against the Hybrid Gift Ball he hit her with... but completely ignored the fact that's ALL SHE COULD DO AT THAT POINT.

This is some truly insane shit to act as if they are stronger than TS Ichigo.



being able to react and move inside final form askin's gift ball deluxe, aint a strength feat, first, its more like they can adapt to dif situations like those and is a good example for their reflexes


secondly, at this point, yoruichi either way couldnt do anything


third, here comes the plan of urahara's and grimmjow, where ura was the bait all along, till released grimmjow connect his hit and oneshot him, not only of his hollow themed nature, but cuz, he has superior striking power than both ura and yoruichi


in other words, none of this, makes it impressive against eos true shikai ichigo, lame sb tier display, once again
 
either way, the anime will expand on this fight more, and will add new stuff prob too, like they did for most fights so far, as we seen, kubo even added lore elements too, so, final season will cover all of that, even better
 
being able to react and move inside final form askin's gift ball deluxe, aint a strength feat, first, its more like they can adapt to dif situations like those and is a good example for their reflexes


secondly, at this point, yoruichi either way couldnt do anything


third, here comes the plan of urahara's and grimmjow, where ura was the bait all along, till released grimmjow connect his hit and oneshot him, not only of his hollow themed nature, but cuz, he has superior striking power than both ura and yoruichi


in other words, none of this, makes it impressive against eos true shikai ichigo, lame

That's what makes it insane, you have to completely ignore the actual context to ultimately get... PTS Grimmjow >>> Full Power Shunko Yourichi and Bankai Urahara?
Which has more basis considering Ichigo was fully ready to throw down against him when they met again anime and manga wise? A Reminder that the anime now has Ichigo tell Riruka to stay behind... but never says that towards Neliel or Grimmjow.
Like come the hell on with this lying SB.

either way, the anime will expand on this fight more, and will add new stuff prob too, like they did for most fights so far, as we seen, kubo even added lore elements too, so, final season will cover all of that, even better

I hope they add in more stuff in there as well.
 
That's what makes it insane, you have to completely ignore the actual context to ultimately get... PTS Grimmjow >>> Full Power Shunko Yourichi and Bankai Urahara?


and it connects even more, with grimmjow oneslashing final act quilge, who still had more than enough power, to still solo all of the espada, thats why urahara made a deal with him and forged their plan for chars like askin, he also sensed that he has superior striking power

and inb4 anyone says, every hollow could do it against askin, cuz hollows techs are more effective against sterns, if that was the case, halibel or allon would oneslash quilge too, so nah, the hollow nature, plays a minor role, cuz, striking power matters more, in the end

and the grimmjow fighting stance scene we know, reinforces even more of what we say, so yeah, gg
 
and it connects even more, with grimmjow oneslashing final act quilge, who still had more than enough power, to still solo all of the espada, thats why urahara made a deal with him and forged their plan for chars like askin, he also sensed that he has superior striking power

and inb4 anyone says, every hollow could do it against askin, cuz hollows techs are more effective against sterns, if that was the case, halibel or allon would oneslash quilge too, so nah, the hollow nature, plays a minor role, cuz, striking power matters more, in the end

and the grimmjow fighting stance scene we know, reinforces even more of what we say, so yeah, gg

Yeah, it absolutely does which makes me wonder why they keep removing context to act as if Yourichi and Urahara powered through Askin's shit when... they didn't?
Yourichi was on death's door the entire time until Urahara gave her some drugs to deal with it and Urahara himself had to use his Bankai to basically repair what Askin "killed" with Gift Ring.
Again, Headcanon bordering on absolute delusion when Grimmjow cut through Quilge in his Volstandigt with some Ayon enhancement left over meanwhile Byakuya required RG training amongst other Captains outside of the Seniors and Kenpachi fighting the lower Sternritter to do actual damage to them...

They really don't want to admit that Monster Aizen would get wrecked by anyone decently strong after a single year, let alone is not in the RG's purview either.
 

Also going to add this in:

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Askin considers Yoruichi and Ichigo's squad to be less of a hassle than the G13, and we're still pretending TS Ichigo is stronger than Dangai Ichigo.

Askin Naak LeVarr
The type of person who fights pertaining to a certain style
Tended to hide out rather than fight anyone during the first 2 Invasions
Even find his ability a pain in the ass to use due to him actually needing to fill his stomach for it to work
Rather fight a small group rather than a huge ass group of Captains and Lieutenants all at once
This proves that Dangai Ichigo > TS Ichigo

...
Again, if anyone tells me that Spacebattles is in any way for intelligent people after this, I will forever laugh in your face.
 

Gotei 13 sweep then.

Renji is a solid fight for Uryu on his own. Add in Rukia, Mayuri, and Shinji and they have a convincing win. AT wont be of much use against that many parties.

Just throw the Gerard squad and Yamamoto to put Askin's victim into the ground very quickly. Hisagi can also be used as a trump card against Ichigo, but I definitely would not put him against Uryu.

While I agree with the overall result you suggested, Yama being here means Toshiro would probably never reach adult form on account of ZNT.

That said, this hypothetical version of Gotei is arguably the strongest it's ever been with the Gerard trio + the Old Captains all in the same team.

They should win more often than not unless Ichigo starts spamming GJs.

People really need to stop posting when they are either this drunk or this dumb...

  • Yamamoto
  • Shunsui
  • Ukitake
  • Unohana
  • Byakuya
  • Kenpachi
  • Toshiro
  • Mayuri
  • Soi Fon
  • Rose
  • Shinji
  • Komamura
  • Kensei

Everyone in this list would be murdered by an even remotely serious Ichigo and Uryu.
@Adamant soul @Blade

Do they think numbers really matter or that while Renji was fighting to defeat Uryu, Uryu was going all out? HoS and Bankai being restricted doesn't stop Uryu's Anti-Thesis spam nor a single Getsuga would kill most of the Captains here...
 
NGL just looking at the first couple of pages and it's all don't fuck with TF Fans we don't even read our own series
i hate to come back to this but i just remembered something that i found funny

it was one of the guys going that multiversal unicron makes no sense no matter how much "hasbro shills" or whatever it was try to make it make sense

which was very funny to me because i immediately remembered that Simon Furman admitted that he just straight up didn't ask Hasbro if he could make up an origin for the Transformers assuming they would say no, he didnt even tell them, he just threw it in Legacy of Unicron and they didnt notice and everyone sort of ran with it
 
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