I mean it's not like Grimmjow lost his reiatsu completely(He did get nerfed by losing his arm but I digress) but yeah, it's just that time Kubo didn't want Grimmjow to die because he obviously wants him to be Ichigo's THE Rival.
But True Shikai dealt NO DAMAGE to Base Moustache (just ignore the fact he tore his strongest defence and still dropped him with relative ease), clearly he's still weaker than Base Moustache.Headcanon is one thing when it comes to Bleach but this shit is absolute fucking denial to the highest degree at this point.
The Manga literally has Yhwach see TS Ichigo > Dangai Ichigo(Who literally has seen all of the Soul Reaper fights), they even bring up that Ichigo's reiatsu of him "truly getting serious" literally has him be seen as "not truly vulnerable" due to how much reiatsu he's pouring out:
And this is not counting Horn of Salvation(Which hurt Soul King Yhwach) and his Bankai(Which Yhwach made it absolute priority to break) but somehow... somehow
Dangai Ichigo is still stronger because of... demeanor and soloing Aizen? You mean the Aizen that grew stronger than that and yet is still seen getting torn apart by all of Yhwach's attacks unlike Ichigo?
There's headcanon and then there's delusion.
Yet Ichigo who fought Monster Aizen specifically said RG reiatsu was "beyond reason". That apparently means nothing to these people.@Xhominid The Apex
we've reached a new level of stupidity never reached before
FKT Aizen > Shutara because ganju felt her bankai
And they were still dealing huge damage to him, the man is dead right when Isshin uses Getsuga without the Hogyoku.
At this point, you can literally pick any post from here and basically hit exactly what this thread is about point blank:
...So we are going to ignore the context that:
- Isshin didn't even use his Shikai against Cocoon Aizen
- Yourichi didn't even use any of her advanced Shunko Forms
- Urahara didn't even try to use anything past his Bankai
Only people who want to desperately clutch on to the transcendent bullshit that has clearly been phased out.Meanwhile Askin looks better because:
- Askin required not only Yourichi's advanced Shunko techniques, but her most hated technique due to robbing her intelligence and Urahara not only requiring his Bankai, but getting Grimmjow's assistance to defeat.
Who the hell believes that Cocoon Aizen "defeating the 3" is supposed to make him look good anymore after the shit we've seen?
"Nah his Bankai is just super potent because that's totally how that works right"?So we are supposed to forget that Gin killing him forced him into that new form right? So is Gin now stronger than Urahara, Yourichi and Isshin? He has to be with this retarded ass chain scaling.
True Shikai Ichigo basically did the same fucking shit to Base Moustache is the funny thing, hell he did it better if anything 'cause Aizen was at least able to DAMAGE Dangai Ichigo's arm slightly whereas Moustache needed The Almighty to do ANYTHING.Wow... this really means something at this point... oh wait, it doesn't after Aizen getting even stronger can still be stopped by The Underbelly and be torn to shit by Soul King Yhwach throwing out palm blasts...
But True Shikai dealt NO DAMAGE to Base Moustache (just ignore the fact he tore his strongest defence and still dropped him with relative ease), clearly he's still weaker than Base Moustache.
Yet Ichigo who fought Monster Aizen specifically said RG reiatsu was "beyond reason". That apparently means nothing to these people.
And they were still dealing huge damage to him, the man is dead right when Isshin uses Getsuga without the Hogyoku.
If the last and more specifically the anime (and Kubo's recent statements) has KILLED anybody's hype it's Aizen just in general. I mean all of a sudden the man would exhaust himself against Unohana even with KS, Moustache directly says he could beat him (it'd just take too long) and Ichigo who fought Aizen is far more impressed with RG reiatsu.
Aizen got fucking BURIED!
Only people who want to desperately clutch on to the transcendent bullshit that has clearly been phased out.
"Nah his Bankai is just super potent because that's totally how that works right"?
True Shikai Ichigo basically did the same fucking shit to Base Moustache is the funny thing, hell he did it better if anything 'cause Aizen was at least able to DAMAGE Dangai Ichigo's arm slightly.
meanwhile
thats yeehaw's portrayal against ichigo's hits, when they connected, ''b-but ichigo didnt had enough power to beat him in 1vs1''
People saying Stark beats ALL of these except Zaraki.Curious how many captains are above stark level by this arc . I’ll pick 5 tell me how they do
1. Soifon
2. Rose
3. Shinji
4. Hitsugaya no adult form
5. Zaraki pre unohana training
Someone brings in the very earnest question if we keep using the "TS Ichigo getting carpeted by Askin" showing how weak he is, then how would that equate to Dangai Ichigo
Askin failed to drop (Shikai) Urahara and Yoruichi in the same way TS Ichigo got carpeted because they were "monsters", "frighteningly strong", and "too damn strong". Those two could train for a hundred years and still be multiple tiers of reiatsu crush away from Dangai Ichigo.
1+1=2
Askin has to use a stronger Gift Pool than normal to hold down Ichigo, didn't expect Ichigo to die at all and just keep him there
Askin uses a Triple Gift Bad attack against Yourichi and just surprised she's not dead
Absolutely fucks up Urahara so badly it's only his Bankai that has him not dead to rights
Somehow Dangai Ichigo will scale to this based on fucking nothing but "They failed to defeat Aizen" completely ignoring the fact they was still able to hurt Cocoon Aizen and not even going all out.
@Adamant soul @Qinglong @Blade
You guys wanna know how they keep saying that Urahara and Yourichi are far stronger than True Shikai Ichigo?
It's because of this:
Let us fully understand the context here:
This is inside Askin's Gift Ball Deluxe and this was done because Urarhara was LIVID over Askin being with Yhwach was just to see what would happen if the 3 Worlds fell and that's ALL HE HAD IN THE TANK OTHERWISE until he used his Bankai to literally enhance himself.
And again, Blaze brings up Askin being surprised Yourichi didn't die against the Hybrid Gift Ball he hit her with... but completely ignored the fact that's ALL SHE COULD DO AT THAT POINT.
This is some truly insane shit to act as if they are stronger than TS Ichigo.
being able to react and move inside final form askin's gift ball deluxe, aint a strength feat, first, its more like they can adapt to dif situations like those and is a good example for their reflexes
secondly, at this point, yoruichi either way couldnt do anything
third, here comes the plan of urahara's and grimmjow, where ura was the bait all along, till released grimmjow connect his hit and oneshot him, not only of his hollow themed nature, but cuz, he has superior striking power than both ura and yoruichi
in other words, none of this, makes it impressive against eos true shikai ichigo, lame
either way, the anime will expand on this fight more, and will add new stuff prob too, like they did for most fights so far, as we seen, kubo even added lore elements too, so, final season will cover all of that, even better
That's what makes it insane, you have to completely ignore the actual context to ultimately get... PTS Grimmjow >>> Full Power Shunko Yourichi and Bankai Urahara?
and it connects even more, with grimmjow oneslashing final act quilge, who still had more than enough power, to still solo all of the espada, thats why urahara made a deal with him and forged their plan for chars like askin, he also sensed that he has superior striking power
and inb4 anyone says, every hollow could do it against askin, cuz hollows techs are more effective against sterns, if that was the case, halibel or allon would oneslash quilge too, so nah, the hollow nature, plays a minor role, cuz, striking power matters more, in the end
and the grimmjow fighting stance scene we know, reinforces even more of what we say, so yeah, gg
Also going to add this in:
Askin considers Yoruichi and Ichigo's squad to be less of a hassle than the G13, and we're still pretending TS Ichigo is stronger than Dangai Ichigo.
Askin Naak LeVarr
The type of person who fights pertaining to a certain style
Tended to hide out rather than fight anyone during the first 2 Invasions
Even find his ability a pain in the ass to use due to him actually needing to fill his stomach for it to work
Rather fight a small group rather than a huge ass group of Captains and Lieutenants all at once
This proves that Dangai Ichigo > TS Ichigo
Gotei 13 sweep then.
Renji is a solid fight for Uryu on his own. Add in Rukia, Mayuri, and Shinji and they have a convincing win. AT wont be of much use against that many parties.
Just throw the Gerard squad and Yamamoto to put Askin's victim into the ground very quickly. Hisagi can also be used as a trump card against Ichigo, but I definitely would not put him against Uryu.
While I agree with the overall result you suggested, Yama being here means Toshiro would probably never reach adult form on account of ZNT.
That said, this hypothetical version of Gotei is arguably the strongest it's ever been with the Gerard trio + the Old Captains all in the same team.
They should win more often than not unless Ichigo starts spamming GJs.
- Yamamoto
- Shunsui
- Ukitake
- Unohana
- Byakuya
- Kenpachi
- Toshiro
- Mayuri
- Soi Fon
- Rose
- Shinji
- Komamura
- Kensei
i hate to come back to this but i just remembered something that i found funnyNGL just looking at the first couple of pages and it's all don't fuck with TF Fans we don't even read our own series
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