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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

From Granolah’s flashback of when the Saiyans killed his people

Actually a pretty powerful dude: one of the aliens decided to blow up their own moon to reverse all the Saiyans back from being Great Apes, thinking it’d turn the tide of battle

And Taro just walks right up to the guy and says “Nah buddy, we’re still plenty strong as it is.” and proceeds to destroy him and everyone else anyway.

 
Just off that alone, he’s at least as strong as Raditz, who still solos 99% of the Narutoverse
 
@Xcano Also, one of the in-series answers to Genjutsu is to flair up your chakra as much as you can to disrupt it

Early Shippuden Naruto was able to slightly disrupt Fake Itachi’s Sharingan-related Genjutsu for a measuring point

Given Taro’s got more Ki in his pinkie then the entire Uchiha clan put together, it’s highly probably he breaks out of any Genjutsu they try on him by accident
 
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sb is the only place ive seen people consistently argue characters don’t scale to their own attacks

It continues to be ironic that the VS. Battle Board that hides behind "Science and Hard Logic" somehow completely ignore the very functions of how living beings work to believe that someone can just turn to putty throwing a damn punch...
 
Base Nero made Urizen stand up and take him seriously, where previously a seated Urizen made short work of Dante even when he had the Sparda sword (which he previously used to defeat Mundus and he beat Argosax and Abigail without it).

Tired or not, DT Nero still held back Sin DT Dante and Vergil with one hand each. Not to mention their tiredness wasn't preventing Vergil from still using his Sin DT repeatedly so how much they were actually weakened by it is questionable to begin with in this instance. It's not like we're talking DMC3 post-credits scene "can barely stand" Vergil.

To put it bluntly, you can make the case that Nero's still ultimately below the brothers, but anything else is pushing it. The dude would still be a huge threat to a fresh Dante and Vergil at minimum and he'd be absolutely pushing the shit in of any of the final bosses.

Urizen AFTER eating the fruit? Sure, I mean he gave Sin DT Dante wounds he needed to heal before Vergil would fight him again (I'd still argue Nero wins). Mundus, Argosax and Abigail are all getting fucking bodied.
 

Adding to that, the attacks Nero stopped in his DT were basically "ults". In the Special Edition where Nero doesn't stop them they go into their giga-spin moves. For Vergil that's the Force Edge equivalent of the Yamatos super JC and his gauntlets nuke move.
 
@Xcano Also, one of the in-series answers to Genjutsu is to flair up your chakra as much as you can to disrupt it
I don't think Taro would know to do this, but also even if he did I think he's probably weaker than Sasuke/Itachi/Madara anyways tbh
 
I don't think Taro would know to do this, but also even if he did I think he's probably weaker than Sasuke/Itachi/Madara anyways tbh
He doesn’t need to. Just the fact that the typical Genjutsu usually involves some form of feeling of restraint on the person would get him to want to power up to break out of those restraints

Madara and Itachi are way too weak.

Sasuke if we’re talking after Sage of Six Paths…eh. Best feats so far in the verse are that Sauce and Naruto together making a Moon to seal Kaguya again and Toneri splitting the Moon





^ Fodder to Taro reduced an entire moon to space dust.

Even with the top tiers, there’s probably a wide enough power gap for Taro to power his way out of Genjutsu
 
^ Fodder to Taro reduced an entire moon to space dust.
I mean yeah, I'm aware of this. I'm also aware that like, just a couple pages before this 3 Cerealian warriors are killed by having part of a building thrown on them.
 
I mean yeah, I'm aware of this. I'm also aware that like, just a couple pages before this 3 Cerealian warriors are killed by having part of a building thrown on them.
By a Great Ape spiking it down on them.
 
Let’s not argue some split durability shit

Piccolo who blew up the Moon himself with a generic Ki blast and stronger than Roshi who also destroyed the Moon, couldn’t even scratch Raditz with anything besides Special Beam Cannon


Also Leak took that same blast that destroyed the Moon to the head, and all it managed to do was leave a scar