Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

[CrossTheHorizon]

The decrease in attributes still works, yeah, but the petrification does not.

It....does? Archer starts to get petrified and has to run before it finishes him, and Saber Alter's armor turns to stone before she resists it.

Also again, worked on "literally otherwise untouchable" Merlin

 

[Blade]

You're using an example of a character literally being affected by an ability to argue they resist the ability they explicitly failed to do so.

pax

lets say ttgl hasnt snow petrification resistance according to ur headcanon, can boa petrify ttgl now?

 

[Astaro]

"Woah this guy can influence the plot of the media hes in and fuck around with it?"
"Meh that means nothing"
This is you right now

Pretty much

Manipulating the plot doesn’t mean anything outside their own show and it’s certainly not the be-all end to any arguments

That’s some Contessa Path to Victory NLF type shit being used

 

[Paxton]

Considering that TTGL is at least the size of a galaxy (iirc), no, she cannot.

Because she hasn't shown the RANGE to petrify a target that large.

Also, literal reality warping mech (technically it's team Dai Gurrenn who do that, but you get what I mean) btw. Not a good example.

 

[Salfarc]

..no they don't.

A 5 second Google search says otherwise.

They do.

Blue Flame of Candle is 1000 degree Celcius

Magma is 1000 Degre Celcius.

google search can prove this easily


Both are at around 1000 Celcius.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

...So, you literally just agreed with @Cryso Agori 's point then Pax?

Dumbass.

 

[Paxton]

...So, you literally just agreed with @Cryso Agori 's point then Pax?

Dumbass.

"Affecting someone with higher raw stats has nothing to do with the potency of an ability."

"...Cybele has only been resisted by planet level chars. Said chars don't even have full resistance to it. Again an Artoria Alter juiced on infinite mana was still being slowed down and weakened by it."

"Considering that TTGL is at least the size of a galaxy (iirc), no, she cannot.

Because she hasn't shown the RANGE to petrify a target that large."

Where did I agree with goldenboy?

 

[Blade]

Considering that TTGL is at least the size of a galaxy (iirc), no, she cannot.

Because she hasn't shown the RANGE to petrify a target that large.

Also, literal reality warping mech (technically it's team Dai Gurrenn who do that, but you get what I mean) btw. Not a good example.

even ur fav char is amazed by that sub zero bait and sb tier iq, pax, i hope you are trolling, lets say, trolling, cuz if u are serious, i dont want to imagine it

 

[Paxton]

They do.

Blue Flame of Candle is 1000 degree Celcius

Magma is 1000 Degre Celcius.

google search can prove this easily View attachment 1726

View attachment 1727
Both are at around 1000 Celcius.

...so they're not the same temperature then?


Magma has a range of 700 - 1300 degrees celsius, like you just posted.

The average temperature of a candle flame is about 1000 degrees celsius, like you just posted.

The magma can be hotter or cooler than the candle flame.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

"Affecting someone with higher raw stats has nothing to do with the potency of an ability."



"...Cybele has only been resisted by planet level chars. Said chars don't even have full resistance to it. Again an Artoria Alter juiced on infinite mana was still being slowed down and weakened by it."



"
Considering that TTGL is at least the size of a galaxy (iirc), no, she cannot.

Because she hasn't shown the RANGE to petrify a target that large."


Where did I agree with goldenboy?

That's basically the level between Overlord and Fate yes.

Medusa is a high tier servant who can fight a Grailed Artoria Alter, she's ftl in reactions and planet level, her eyes were also able to work on said Artoria.

Overlord is at most a large town level verse.

Fate hax, especially from servants waaaaaaay overshoot whatever resistances and immunities the OV verse has simply by the fact that Cybele worked on way stronger characters(again just watch her vs artoria alter)

Trying to use TTGL's size as if that matters to how Boa's Devil Fruit works does not help your point because the Pilots still exists in there which is Blade's point!
If Boa cannot affect TTGL because of it's range, then her DF cannot work that far which is exactly the point people stated. There is a difference between a Time Stop that affects a Planet and one that affects the Universe, guess which needs more energy to work within it's range?

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

I don't understand why scaling it to the characters who resist the ability is such a difficult concept

 

[Salfarc]

Pax there is this thing called "False Equivalent". It is a fallacy that is quite literally describe what you are doing.

This fallacy is committed when one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result.[2] False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence does not bear scrutiny because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors. The pattern of the fallacy is often as such: If A is the set containing c and d, and B is the set containing d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal.

False equivalence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I don't understand why scaling it to the characters who resist the ability is such a difficult concept

Because Pax is too angry to think correctly and thus is just lashing out on everyone passive aggressively like a spud rather than drop the argument that he's wrong.

Nigga is literally becoming an SB member unironically... he's becoming Starsight

 

[Salfarc]

...so they're not the same temperature then?


Magma has a range of 700 - 1300 degrees celsius, like you just posted.

The average temperature of a candle flame is about 1000 degrees celsius, like you just posted.

The magma can be hotter or cooler than the candle flame.

But as shown, they both have 1000 Degree, they have the same.

Why would they be different here but not Cybelle and Basilisk?

 

[Paxton]

Trying to use TTGL's size as if that matters to how Boa's Devil Fruit works does not help your point because the Pilots still exists in there which is Blade's point!
If Boa cannot affect TTGL because of it's range, then her DF cannot work that far which is exactly the point people stated. There is a difference between a Time Stop that affects a Planet and one that affects the Universe, guess which needs more energy to work within it's range?

??

Petrifying a character who blows up a building or a universe is the same thing.
Same with stopping time.

They either resist it, or they don't.

Range is irrelevant to whether or not they can resist it or not.

 

[Salfarc]

Because Pax is too angry to think correctly and thus is just lashing out on everyone passive aggressively like a spud rather than drop the argument that he's wrong.

Nigga is literally becoming an SB member unironically... he's becoming Starsight

I think there is someone else who is better suited, OneBelowAll, the SB guy who first equate Cybele to Basilik in the first place ha

How many alt account he have in reddit anw.

 

[Paxton]

I don't understand why scaling it to the characters who resist the ability is such a difficult concept

I never said they don't resist Cybele?

I'm saying any additional effects from Cybele that aren't it's petrification don't make the resistance any better than what would be considered baseline.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

??

Petrifying a character who blows up a building or a universe is the same thing.
Same with stopping time.

They either resist it, or they don't.

Range is irrelevant to whether or not they can resist it or not.

...Pax, someone whose immune to a small scale Time Stop is not then immune to a Universal level Time Stop because one requires way more energy than the other...

That is literally how hax works.

 

[Paxton]

...Pax, someone whose immune to a small scale Time Stop is not then immune to a Universal level Time Stop because one requires way more energy than the other...

That is literally how hax works.

"Guy who can mind control one single person from across the galaxy = his ability is more potent than the guy who can control 100 people in a town sized radius"

Is that really your argument?

 

[Paxton]

"oh no it only had the range to encompass a small town"

Ok he still moved in frozen time.

Range = / = potency.