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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Astaro said:
Both have the processing abilities to manipulate their powers down to the atomic level

Gojo lacks Accelerator’s upward limits of his powers but passive Vector reflection needing only the subconscious mind at work and basic applications to be a Level 5, Gojo can pull off
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Which is why I said that hes gonna burn his brain out trying to do the stuff accel does, I aint say nothing about them just chilling at rest.

Gojos brain gonna do back flips trying to calculate someone trying to telejump him from a different dimension
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Xhominid The Apex said:
Yep, the more you know about The Elder Scrolls, the more retarded SB just comes off for continually believing that "It's just swords, arrows and sticks, anyone can take them" when it literally takes no more than just reading/playing the game to know it's all bullshit.


More of Mr. Sheldon's shitty takes:


The one time Mr. Sheldon is right because stating Archer Gilgamesh doesn't have SNI as a Noble Phantasm when he explicitly does(It's just not in his rap sheet)


Fate Route: He goads Artoria and Shirou into announcing that he's Gilgamesh despite not having any tells otherwise they knew who he was. Also could tell Artoria was no longer a virgin
UBW: Able to tell how many times Shirou can materialize with his Projection despite never seeing Shirou hit his limit once. Also, Nasu explicitly stated SNI damn well told Gilgamesh he would lose to Shirou with UBW active and refused to acknowledge it.


Uh... that's because Gojo KILLED Geto, no shit he was able to tell that someone else was piloting Geto's body, not that he knew it was Kenjaku...


Actually he does, he always explicitly sees his opponent's powerlevel and keeps himself at that level at all times. The thing is though he only does it just once and it's why he lost to Artoria and Shirou respectively in differing routes due to them basically adding on new tricks he wasn't aware of at that time.
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Most people agree he won, but look at some slow-witted fools who can't grasp that, nidhogg is a prime example. IMG_20250426_235715.jpg
 
What I hate about Naruto speed debates when it versus against Demon Slayer. It really shows the double standard on how people scale speed.

Demon Slayer relies on a massive scaling chain that relies on one virtual supersonic feat. Been a massive outlier that realistically is such an upgrade to their speed that it doesn't make any sense. Yet Naruto is over analyzed for Speed so God damn hard you have 12 pages of people going back and forth over it.

Demon Slayer has the exact same problem if you analyze it to the core yet we accepted that is their actual speed because they have to have something.

And yes I don't believe Demon Slayer is as fast as they say they are half the time. For god sakes the love hashira got hit by a Sonic attack five times in her first fight
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I think it's because Naruto has lower statements or "anti-feats" as it's commonly called

No matter high said character is powercliffed most people would still remember said low-showing

Even demon Slayer characters has been scrutinized because sometimes they aren't moving fast as people think but they don't have statements limiting Thier speeds

And I also believe most Naruto is supersonic belief is built from Part 1, so if part 1 calcs aren't valid the entire scaling chain falls apart
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I mostly put healthy Muzan at maybe Mach three at most, scaling upwards a few steps from Hantegus sonic attacks mattering but being dodged (Hantengu fight < Akaza/Doma < Kokushibo < poisoned Muzan < healthy Muzan) but of course it's easily possible to argue very different values, in both directions even.

That speed debate is just as unresolved as the Naruto one. We probably should just assume some sort of parity or this goes nowhere.
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Yeah, you'd think after reading this thread that Rock Lee during the chuunin exams would be the fastest, most powerful shinobi in the five nations and an S-rank threat.
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It's refreshing for once to actually get some actual communication and debating for once in this thread rather than trying to shout down someone or act like nothing they say matters because "lollowendhere".
The biggest issue with Demon Slayer Speed feats is that... once you look outside of the UFOTable action scenes, alot of the series is pitifully slow with matchlock guns being a match for Hashira and Demons alike(With only the strongest ones being able to actually deal with it effectively). The rest is basically people pushing stuff towards it's highest end interpretation which is hard to justify because of again the many times the series goes against itself.

In comparison, it's extremely difficult to just accept the low ends because when you have Weighted Lee making a damn fool out of Sasuke because he can't keep up despite the precog of the 2 Tomoe(or atleast 1 Tomoe, I think) then Lee can easily blitz past Gaara's Sand Shield unweighted and then going full Fifth Gate and damn near tear him apart and we see the nonsense Gaara's Sand Shield has reacted to(Bombs, Kunai, unsuspected attacks from behind), it gets really, really stupid to hang onto the low ends when it just looks stupid that Lee feels he NEEDS the 5th Gate to keep up with Neji and yet Neji was still able to be speedblitzed by all of the Jounin available when he went for another attack at a long defeated Hinata.
The scaling chain isn't even that, that's the really funny part.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
Yep, the more you know about The Elder Scrolls, the more retarded SB just comes off for continually believing that "It's just swords, arrows and sticks, anyone can take them" when it literally takes no more than just reading/playing the game to know it's all bullshit.
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Meanwhile they refuse to share the same level of scrutiny to other fantasy series such as ASOIAF, Dragon Age & The Witcher even though you can say all of the same downplays and more, even when directly called out on their behaviour.

It's not about any kind of favouritism towards those above series of course; the fact that they support them in the argument is simply because they have an unhealthy hatred of a fantasy video game solely due to the powerlevels and will do anything in their power to downplay it.
Masterblack06 said:

:giogio

I cant stand SB elder scrolls threads jesus christ man
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You and me both man.

It's been the same shit for like a decade. Wait no it hasn't because it's somehow gotten worse.

Hell I've legit seen random comments on Reddit which call out SB's takes on TES as being absolute sub-garbage.
 
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Jesus, someone really needs to tell Mr.Sheldon to just stop because this is just really embarrassing at this rate.
It speaks volumes that he acts that because Gilgamesh handicaps himself when it comes to SNI(Which is only in the sense of using it ONCE and that's to fully know the person he's fighting), that somehow takes away the fact that Sukuna has equally played with his food to the point it's a literal plot point in that's the main reason he lost at the end.

It's quite clear who is stronger/faster from these clips.
And before you say "why are you ignoring F/SF?" it's because Gil's feats from there consist of spamming Noble Phantasms, something he's not allowed to do here.
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Let me actually use the animation differences to prove how slow Gilgamesh is compared to Sukuna/Mahoraga
Let me completely ignore anyone else bringing in any extra context that can easily and effortlessly demolish this in seconds
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Please... please fucking stop my dude. Anyone can literally pick him blocking Alcides arrow which would require... being able to move his limbs quickly enough to dodging Artoria's Excalibur in Fate/Zero while it's in transit to blocking Richard's attack who was using his Godspeed to dodge the massive hail of GoB with his own hand:
“It’s to leave just a little scratch on your magnificent armor.”
Evading the oncoming swarm of deadly blows, Richard changed direction in midair.
He completely changed course without a stepping stone of any kind.
Although he must have been under considerable strain, he contorted his body still further, adding the force of his rotation to make his sword reach the golden Heroic Spirit.
Seeing that, the scowling Heroic Spirit drew the sword in his own hand.
“So, you, a mere gladiator, weave magecraft!”
The golden Heroic Spirit parried the nearly-surprise attack and dropped to the roof one level below the belfry, glaring at Richard, who held one of his treasures.
He did not shout angrily or lose his composure; his tone remained one of rebuke for a lack of courtesy.
“No, that wasn’t me.”
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And let's not even get into his durability aka, he gets absolutely destroyed by Humbaba while suffering from Hydra Venom and it took awhile for him to finally fall(and he's not even dead immediately from either):
With that, Ishtar halted and turned her head toward Gilgamesh with an even crueler smile.
“It seems like she’ll never forgive either of you, even if I do.”
The next instant, a seven-colored halo shot from the steel colossus, twisted and tapered into something like the head of a jackhammer... and plunged straight into Gilgamesh’s belly.
“Lord Gilgamesh! No! Nooo!”
The young Master’s cries echoed high into the sky, but they did not reach the woman called Ishtar or Alkeides near the ground.
Whether they reached her Servant, Gilgamesh, was impossible to determine.
Only one thing was certain: Gilgamesh had stood majestically and firm in the face of his enemies until the moment he lost consciousness.
The catastrophic, wracking pain that even the centaur who had been the tutor of numerous
heroes had abandoned his immortality and longed for death.
Even eaten away at by that venom in three places and impaled through the gut by a steel
beast... Gilgamesh continued to stand before his enemies as a king.
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Like it's unanimous but I never cared about that, I just find it ridiculous that Nidhogg and Sheldon keep on arguing this with the most flimsy evidence possible while ignoring Sukuna's IC flaws while massively overplaying Gil's.
 
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I asked AI to give me a picture of who wins

:maybe
 
untrue and even if that analogy were true it'd be the other way around

cut the bait out
 
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