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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

OtherGalaxy said:
the thing is i dont necessarily think unicron wins i just have zero clue how anyone could come to that conclusion without getting into the cluster migraine that is cosmology scaling
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Has anyone in Transformers ever defeated him permanently?
 

...This is basically a test to see who Itadori can even survive against :heston


I had a feeling SB would eventually use the characters in OC4 as per usual...
Especially as translations aren't even done for either Galahad's fight against Mash or Metatron Jeanne and what she can really do...
and the little we do have, Ichigo and Toshirou does not matter in the slightest in this fight
:jordangif

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That a cool and all but you will remark you haven't post anything that allows her to survive Ichigo attacks.
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Metatron Jeanne eats her own NP to the face
It's comparable to Rhongomyniad which is already compared to Laeventienn which even it's failed attack nearly burned the Planet to shit and instead completely destroyed the surface.
She's barely hurt, if not at all
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That alone would have her utterly beyond Ichigo even before we find out she has the Saint Graph powerlevel equivalent to freaking Beast Tiamat.

Like i say Tiamat durability feat amount to tanking Quetz np , so magnitude below Ichigo.
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Quetzalcoatl's NP explicitly uses Solar Winds to basically manifest a Star in her hands through sheer compression:
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Solar Wind Temperature:
en.wikipedia.org

Solar wind - Wikipedia

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The solar wind is observed to exist in two fundamental states, termed the slow solar wind and the fast solar wind, though their differences extend well beyond their speeds. In near-Earth space, the slow solar wind is observed to have a velocity of 300–500 km/s, a temperature of ~100 kilokelvin and a composition that is a close match to the corona. By contrast, the fast solar wind has a typical velocity of 750 km/s, a temperature of 800 kilokelvin[citation needed] and it nearly matches the composition of the Sun's photosphere.[37] The slow solar wind is twice as dense and more variable in nature than the fast solar wind.[32][38]
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Is Ichigo Star level all of a sudden? :risigif

You also say that her np is equal to Rhongomyniad, but like Excalibur it power isn't fixed so that unquantifiable.
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That's not helping your point chief as at the level Rhongomyniad and Excalibur typically is in the Nasuverse, it would still be too much for Ichigo in any fashion possible...
Notice how I didn't even bring up Galahad yet, goddamn.:heston
 
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King said:
Has anyone in Transformers ever defeated him permanently?
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short answer no
long answer one writer tried to say thats what the Shroud did but later writers contradicted that and it would still mean only a heavily weakened Unicron would have been knocked down a peg, so still no
 
Lol I just found out Weekly Shonen Jump listed out the physical stats for the first 5 JoJos (purely excluding stands)

Jonathan is physically the strongest
Joseph and Jotaro are the smartest
Jonathan and Giorno are the most handsome and have the strongest willpower
Joseph is the luckiest
Poor Josuke is the ugliest and dumbest lmao
 
Masterblack06 said:
the argument has evolved 1 step further

niggas are seriously debating 1 man vs 10 million ants: No weapons
:heston
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okay hold on i get to bugpost now

i think this depends on the type of ants

there are army ant colonies that get into the tens of millions of ants


you do not fuck with driver ants
iirc theyre called driver ants because when theyre on the march they drive all the forest critters ahead of them
 
Masterblack06 said:
Can you imagine if it was bullet ants?

:heston
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thankfully, bullet ant colonies usually only get into the hundreds
they specd into being huge and strong with a mean ass sting, but theres not many of them (for ants)

i think we'd have a healthy advantage over ants fwiw, even the most fearsome ones, the issue is moreso with allergies to the venom (as irl people have sadly died to anaphylactic shock from bull ant stings
 
this isnt scaling related but one of my favorite little facts is the mofu people of cameroon have a special reverence for the "Jaglavak" (a species of aformentioned Driver Ants)
mofu-01-redjaglavak-l.jpg

who when Termites infest their homes, they get them up in a clay pot (as driver ants are nomadic) and bring them to their huts and the ants ransack the termites and drive them off before departing
the Jaglavak are considered the "Prince of Insects" which im not gonna lie does feel appropriate, as there is nothing in the entire arthropod world that can actually stop an army ant swarm
heres an old PBS website i found that explains it well, though i first learned this from a clip from an old documentary on the same subject

NOVA | Master of the Killer Ants | Jaglavak, Prince of Insects | PBS

Read an article by French researcher Christian Seignobos about the Mofu people of northern Cameroon and their relationship to a species of army ant they call jaglavak.
www.pbs.org
 
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