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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

OtherGalaxy said:
said this a million times but galaxy level bleach is way funnier and more ridiculous than universe level is. At least those dudes can always say “THE REALMS” when the fuck was anybody in that manga even on the same panel as a galaxy
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mf.

the answer is always.

the wotl (and its spiritual mirror, the dimension of Soul Society) is IN a galaxy :mjpls
 
OtherGalaxy said:
said this a million times but galaxy level bleach is way funnier and more ridiculous than universe level is. At least those dudes can always say “THE REALMS” when the fuck was anybody in that manga even on the same panel as a galaxy
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This part of tier 4 haven't even gotten into the cosmology scaling yet. This is just the unforeseen consequences of treating in-universe multiplier literally. Though to be fair it's basically a fault of staff member enforcing that as a rule few years back.

Ayon scaling is pretty much a meme at this point.
 

Mask vs White

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Mask beating White with ONE Cheer? :heston

I get that he takes a HIT because Isshin was confirmed to be under the limiter but fucking lol at people pretending the dude wouldn't still wipe the fucking floor with most Captains (especially pre-skip) and basically all Espada, sealed or not.

And yes people, that means Masaki STILL beats a good amount of Nazis based on her performance against White. They can laugh at me all they want, all they've got to support the seal being THAT crippling is Toshiro vs Shawlong which is more a feat for the latter than anything else.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
Like Gilgamesh is genuinely wanked in VS. debates to a ludicrous degree but it's due to the problem above(and what he mentions later) but when does Mash replicate his best feats? Her new Paladin Form's 2nd Noble Phantasm? That may be Anti-World but it's not Enuma Elish as they work differently.
Mash's Rayproof Kyrielight apparently corrects the flow of time(on top of acting like the Black Barrel Replica so basically, it's both effects at once) while Enuma Elish can straight up tear apart an entire Texture/Reality right off of the Planet.
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What is the strongest thing Mash has taken out with Black Barrel Replica again?

I can't imagine it trumps Jurassic Tiamat though?
Xhominid The Apex said:
People keep bringing this up as if Nasu didn't immediately strike it down like a year after the UBW movie came out and Shirou was just the luckiest motherfucker and "had his one time" on top of having to do everything possible so Gil can't rationalize his thoughts for a second.
Like did people just instead of saying correctly it was plot that Shirou won years ago to now "Gilgamesh is a fraud" constantly as if this is Jujutsu Kaisen now?
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Doesn't hurt that Shirou's entire shtick is being a mimic that can fire bladed projectiles with the same magnitude as Gilgamesh's stock

Sure, Gilgamesh is supposed to win more often than not with a clearer head, but Shirou and EMIYA are still characters that have stats that function in the realm of "I can play this game with you and kill you if given the chance"

Shit, EMIYA's entire stock of blades if thrown all at once can offset a weaker version of Enuma Elish (yet still EX in nature) enough to let him survive the remaining energy he couldn't counter.

Shouldn't be a knock to Gilgamesh, its a feat for Shirou and EMIYA.
Xhominid The Apex said:
This is meant to be offsetting it? Also, why are we adding the Seals to Excalibur in F/SN when it didn't exist then? Like yeah, we have no idea if Ea is stronger than Planetary Defense Excalibur but that's not the argument being stated here.
The VN is officially translated for pete sake and it's available on Youtube, how can people still parrot such incorrect shit.
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Seals talk is pretty fucking stupid when its still a version of Excalibur that Tiger Dojo and Herakles own musings were concerned would take all his lives even through God Hand at the full tilt Artoria could deliver.
 

Ironically that gif loading so slow for me allowed me to see that when he voids a row of people it happens sequentially instead of all at once. It seems to travel? Though it could be other things like him "spam clicking".

Anyways, I think something needs a higher degree of evidence to claim that it doesn't travel at all rather than having no visible projection aspect. If we just saw Sukuna cutting things with no explanation blurbs I wouldn't consider it as having no travel aspect
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It travels?
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Like that is some absolute bare minimum travel time and nowhere near fast enough for Gojo and Sukuna to just run away from unless you give them some really stupid numbers.
 
ChaosTheory123 said:
What is the strongest thing Mash has taken out with Black Barrel Replica again?

I can't imagine it trumps Jurassic Tiamat though?
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Cernnunos(Lostbelt Zeus explicitly required the Lifescale) but that has a bunch of caveats and hitting it's Divine Core explicitly. Otherwise, we are shown that just shooting the shit it can easily kill Fairies and blow through a Bulwark that Barghest couldn't EASILY break through(though she tanked it to the face so it's not that out there).

ChaosTheory123 said:
Doesn't hurt that Shirou's entire shtick is being a mimic that can fire bladed projectiles with the same magnitude as Gilgamesh's stock

Sure, Gilgamesh is supposed to win more often than not with a clearer head, but Shirou and EMIYA are still characters that have stats that function in the realm of "I can play this game with you and kill you if given the chance"

Shit, EMIYA's entire stock of blades if thrown all at once can offset a weaker version of Enuma Elish (yet still EX in nature) enough to let him survive the remaining energy he couldn't counter.

Shouldn't be a knock to Gilgamesh, its a feat for Shirou and EMIYA.
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Yeah, it should be a feat for Shirou but people have went to the school of JJK Retardation and believe it has to be an anti-feat for Gil despite the consistent statements that UBW ultimately works better than GoB in terms of actual use to the point it's why Gil took out Archer in UBW.

ChaosTheory123 said:
Seals talk is pretty fucking stupid when its still a version of Excalibur that Tiger Dojo and Herakles own musings were concerned would take all his lives even through God Hand at the full tilt Artoria could deliver.
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It is on top of that, I'm just pointing out that Enuma Elish dead ass beats Excalibur every time and only one of those times Artoria "offsets" it... by the level of giving her a single footstep to use Avalon.

ChaosTheory123 said:
Look at the running scene, think that's what they meant. The furthest into the background vanishes first, the second furthest, then the guy immediately in the foreground
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Ah that, I guess so but it still feels a bit odd otherwise considering that Void is literally covered in that too so even touching him puts you in his dimension.
 

It bypasses things that are in the way. Either you accept that it doesn't travel, or you accept that it does... but Void can selectively decide to ignore the Infinity barrier in the way. (Also, worth noting that we've seen Sentry's reality-warping powers work just fine on intangible targets such as Ghost, to the point that he can physically grab her while phasing and prevent her from phasing, so the Infinity barrier being intangible doesn't preclude him from selecting or ignoring it.)

You've also yet to provide any evidence to suggest that Infinity could stop it. Per Gojo's own statements, the technique functions by analyzing an incoming object based on cursed energy, mass, speed, and shape—most notably, the Void's shadow effect doesn't seem to have any energy; it doesn't produce a visible move that travels; it can't be stopped by intervening obstacles; and it is not a physical object. Gojo's Infinity has never stopped an attack that is both a) nonphysical and b) has no cursed energy.

In order for Gojo's Infinity to stop it, you have to make the following assumptions: first, that the Void's attack does indeed travel despite zero evidence to suggest that it does and multiple points of evidence suggesting a lack of traveling; second, that Infinity can stop nonphysical, non-CE-based attacks despite zero feats to support that; and third, that Infinity cannot simply be ignored the way the Void can ignore intervening barriers and obstacles. All of these three assumptions must be true for Infinity to work. None of them are provable. Occam's Razor provides the simple solution: Infinity most likely cannot stop it.
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Why the hell is Starsight the voice of reason here?!
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Starsight even brought up that surprise, surprise, Gojo's Limitless has freaking limits to it, limits that are explicitly stated pointblank and Gojo would have nothing to be able to block it.
But yeah, apparently the movie makes it more obvious that it doesn't travel whatsoever nor affect physical matter inbetween it(It gets a person flying a Helicopter without affecting the windshield and it affects a girl that was saved by the Russian Superhero despite him being infront of her).


He analyzes what he lets through rather than what he blocks, as evidenced by it working behind him where he has no eyes to do anything.
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Yes... by sensing the Cursed Energy that emanates from the attack, dumbass...
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Yeah, this is what I mean when I find JJK-tards are some next level retards. It's literally stated how Gojo has his Limitless work but people look for the most archaic shit to bypass it rather than "If it's something Gojo can't process in time? Or can't process at all? He's fucked then".
Just because Gege's stupid ass didn't take advantage of that simple ass loophole doesn't mean everyone else should.
 
Paxton said:
I mean Starsight's not even a dumb person lol

She's clearly quite intelligent, but some of her argument's are.. questionable
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If Starsight was any of those things, then Starsight wouldn't have argued in the way they have for Demon Slayer...


I have no strong opinion for or against the Raikage actually being able to do that, but your argument has a flaw. The Raikage is not necessaries going to open the fight by trying to blitz right away, nor is it certain that he will even make the first move.
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Uh? We literally have everything but his joint fight against Madara that yeah, A very much DOES blitz first and asks questions never(Against Sasuke, Minato in the flashback and against Bee and Naruto when he and Tsunade went to go get them to go back to the Turtle).

For example in the fight against Sasuke (where he was very much bloodlusted) he starts the fight by announcing himself, then he stands in place and let's Sasuke come to him. He doesn't even respond to Sasuke's attack, instead leaving it up to Darui to block and then counter Sasuke's charge with a water wall followed by lightning stream combination ninjutsu.
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Mook, that's not proving your point, the fact he had Darui and C there to back him up only shows A is a thinker and a strategist even though he tends to go full on blitzkrieg if he has a reason to.
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The point is, if the Raikage is part of a team it's perfectly in character for him to decide that the optimal way to fight is to wait for his allies to attack and then take advantage of the openings they create instead of going straight for the blitz. He might even hold himself back to coordinate his attacks with his allies instead of recklessly rushing in at full speed from the start.
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No? He straight up blitzed when it was just him and Tsunade vs. Killer B and Naruto, the fuck?

Normally this would be eminently sensible and good tactics. Even if the Raikage is fast enough to blitz most people there's still a possibility that his enemy will be able to react to his speed and counter with something that can threaten him. Holding back and getting his opponents measure (and making use of his allies) instead of just mindlessly rushing in like a Leeroy Jenkins is smart of him.
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We going straight into Fanfic territory again...
:jordangif

If A believes the fastest way to defeat someone is to take them down as fast as possible, he will do so(i.e. against Minato despite having B as backup, same with Killer B and Naruto despite Tsunade being there as backup), I'm not getting at all the hell he's talking about because Madara is a WHOLE ass different beast than Freieren Demons could ever be.

Or it would be normally. Macht and his absolutely disgustingly bullshit gold transmutation spell with its speed of thought, no saving throw, absolute durability/defense negating nonsense is something that really needs maximum effort one-hit-kill attempts right from the start to counter.
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Um, Guy was able to surpass that against Kisame with the 5th Gate...
Unless you meant to tell me A is slower than 5th Gate Guy...
:maury

Without knowledge and in-character I think it's more likely that the Raikage will try to assess his enemies before going for a blitz, and even if he goes for a blitz he won't necessarily know that Macht needs to be killed, which basically makes it a dive roll if he picks the right target.
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Most of the Demons would be DEAD before they even fathomed that A can even move that fast, even if we say the same shit for the other Kage who are just as fast.
 
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