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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

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Randomdude

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Salfarc said:
Have you never seen his argument for Overlord?...
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Ive only seen him argue against overlord, rather poorly at that
Salfarc said:
I heard they can revive? Street level maaaay actually be possible assuming they can revive but with a lot of difficulty. That being said a protection spell that can't save someone from multi-story fall, I doubt can take anything more than random hollow's attack, so they gotta really play smart since they can't power up from Soul.
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To clear this up they can revive specifically in the dungeon, it's a mechanic of the dungeon that it binds the souls of whomever is inside it to their bodies. Thus as long as you can heal/repair the injuries/body enough a person can be "revived" (Revival in this case just being a normal as healing spell) But arguably it's more like death never fully takes hold within the dungeon. AFAIK Revival outside it is never mentioned/may be impossible. (One of the main things people are interested in with that dungeon is the possibility of recreating it's effects on the surface)

Also The moment you leave the dungeon that protection ceases to function and you die for real. AFAIK Nothing can bring you back from that, as even within the dungeon itself it can fail if the body is to damaged/destroyed.

There is some power escalation around the lion/some nebulous reality warping but liaos and coe don't win through brute force/strength, it's usually a combo of luck, skill, knowledge and occasionally plot armor.
 
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Salfarc

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Randomdude said:
Ive only seen him argue against overlord, rather poorly at that
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Mook? He is very passionate in his argument for Overlord. OneBelowAll prolly lose to Mook when it comes to Overlord wanking
Randomdude said:
To clear this up they can revive specifically in the dungeon, it's a mechanic of the dungeon that it binds the souls of whomever is inside it to their bodies. Thus as long as you can heal/repair the injuries/body enough a person can be "revived" (Revival in this case just being a normal as healing spell) But arguably it's more like death never fully takes hold within the dungeon. AFAIK Revival outside it is never mentioned/may be impossible. (One of the main things people are interested in with that dungeon is the possibility of recreating it's effects on the surface)

Also The moment you leave the dungeon that protection ceases to function and you die for real. AFAIK Nothing can bring you back from that, as even within the dungeon itself it can fail if the body is to damaged/destroyed.

There is some power escalation around the lion/some nebulous reality warping but liaos and coe don't win through brute force/strength, it's usually a combo of luck, skill, knowledge and occasionally plot armor.
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So it's dungeon only?

Okay if they are really weaker than Goblin Slayer's party and they can't revive outside of dungeon, they can't beat anything other than random hollow. They can't clear.
 
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Randomdude

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Salfarc said:
Mook? He is very passionate in his argument for Overlord. OneBelowAll prolly lose to Mook when it comes to Overlord wanking
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Maybe it's just the context Ive seen him in but he seemed very convinced that a group of rwby characters could save new world from ainz and coe. And the impression I have is short of the god brothers themselves descending rwby is shit out of luck.

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Okay if they are really weaker than Goblin Slayer's party and they can't revive outside of dungeon, they can't beat anything other than random hollow. They can't clear.
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Yeah it's not something really specific to them/an ability they have it's part of the setting/location they're in.
 
Salfarc

Salfarc

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Randomdude said:
Maybe it's just the context Ive seen him in but he seemed very convinced that a group of rwby characters could save new world from ainz and coe. And the impression I have is short of the god brothers themselves descending rwby is shit out of luck.
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He wank RWBY more then...Then again I only ever see him in something related to vs Fate/Nasu so its probably he just love downplaying Fate
Randomdude said:
Yeah it's not something really specific to them/an ability they have it's part of the setting/location they're in.
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Then it's a spite thread, not only DS have quality over them, they also have quantity. They also go in with no knowledge.

Assuming the claim they are worse than Goblin Slayer's party are true, then they probably do worse than Sieglinde and she got kidnapped immediately after she set foot on Lordrand.
 
King of time

King of time

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Paxton said:
"he will lose very easily"

Unless it's a fucking Grand Servant that's a load of nonsense..:tupac
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:skully emiya is strongest servant fate stay night is what makes me laugh,emiya was only able to take half of Hercules' life but emiya was also seriously injured, while gil took literally all of Heracles' life without gil suffering any injuries.
 
Adamant soul

Adamant soul

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GoldenHeart said:
Bro arguing Rukia > Shikai Yama smh

Rukia Renji vs Yamamoto

vs Restrictions: Yamamoto and Rukia’s bankai Friendly fire disabled Bonus: TYBW Shunsui and Ukitake vs Yamamoto Restrictions: Yamamoto and Shunsui’s bankai Friendly fire disabled
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What do you mean her "superior temperature manipulation via absolute zero" ISN'T gonna beat "no feats ('cause we refuse to acknowledge his best one as a feat)" Shikai Yama? :mjpls

Sables is out of his fucking mind when it comes to Yamamoto and Ichigo, the sheer downplay he comes out with for both characters is absolutely absurd. :kobeha
 
Xhominid The Apex

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King of time said:
:skully emiya is strongest servant fate stay night is what makes me laugh,emiya was only able to take half of Hercules' life but emiya was also seriously injured, while gil took literally all of Heracles' life without gil suffering any injuries.
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The main reason people think that is due to the massively wild misunderstanding of the current translation done and the fact that Nasu didn't have the name of the Grand Servants in mind when it came to those who fight Beasts.
Here, Dark Sakura is at the same level as pure heroic spirits, the Counter Guardians/Grand Servants (as the amount and the presence of her magical energy is beyond human capabilities)
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This means the translator went towards Counter Guardians as the ones who fight Beasts and thus, combined with EMIYA being able to not be instantly Altered by The Shadow like it can every other Servant on contact, made people believe that EMIYA has 2 modes of strength: A normal Servant and a special "Counter Guardian" state that's stronger than every Servant in the war combined... when that's not the case at all.
Here, EMIYA, much like Herakles before himself, finds his ability to move arrested by the Shadow entangling his feet. Here, EMIYA saves Rin from the Shadow's tentacles and endures being pierced by the Shadow's attack. Here, EMIYA's defeat is sealed by the Shadow's successful attack due to his nature as a Servant. Here, the Shadow explodes, a description of the power. Here, EMIYA's spiritual core (what anchors a Servant to their current summons) was damaged by the Shadow, he was otherwise relatively free of physical injury.
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This is even more clarified in the Blu-Ray edition of the final Heaven's Feel Movie in which if Angra Mainyu was to fully awaken into a Beast, a GRAND SERVANT would pop in to deal with it but it would destroy Fuyuki and a good chunk of Japan before that.
So basically, EMIYA gets an insane push because people can't recognize that Counter Guardians aren't close to Grand Servants and are literally just the cleanup crew and the first line of defense and Nasu always meant for Grand Servants to be their own thing separate from the Counter Guardians as a whole.
 
Salfarc

Salfarc

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Would be funny if Human Kiara summon Beast Kiara.

Insta-Win 😂 :kobeha :diolaugh

Strategy-wise, assuming all masters can work together and we can choose Servants to work with them too; Julius/Darius summons someone that can hold the Bleach+Naruto team away. Meanwhile Kiara summon Hans, Rin summons Emiya, Illya summons Mata-Hari. Hans and Emiya and all 3 masters try to buff Mata-Hari as much as possible and then use her NP while she is buffed vs Kakashi and Minato, and make Kakashi and Minato fight Yoruichi and Soi-Feng alongside Julius/Darius' Servant.
 
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