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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

shiny said:
I have a question here. To Xhom, why did Gilles' Book rise to EX rank?
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You mean in FGO or from Strange Fake?
Well either way, it's most likely because we got actual legit clarification in Strange Fake and in the Foreigner based Event Imaginary Scramble that yes, Prelati's Spellbook explicitly allows him to commune with Outer Gods and even summon some of them if he wishes.

Besides, the book was always pretty stupid even in Fate/Zero considering damaging it just causes it to mend itself even after being hit by Anti-Magical Energy abilities, can give Gilles Magical Energy allowing him to stick around even without a Master and is literally the only reason Gilles is even a Caster at all.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
You mean in FGO or from Strange Fake?
Well either way, it's most likely because we got actual legit clarification in Strange Fake and in the Foreigner based Event Imaginary Scramble that yes, Prelati's Spellbook explicitly allows him to commune with Outer Gods and even summon some of them if he wishes.

Besides, the book was always pretty stupid even in Fate/Zero considering damaging it just causes it to mend itself even after being hit by Anti-Magical Energy abilities, can give Gilles Magical Energy allowing him to stick around even without a Master and is literally the only reason Gilles is even a Caster at all.
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FGO. I'm just arguing with one guy here, and based on Gilles' EX he proves that Ex is worse than A, since his Book is weaker than Cuchulainn Alter's B++ Gae Bolg.
 
Atem said:
Way to shoot down his own credibility even more.
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Think it ends there?

Well there's more where that came from:

The Big 3 Verses vs Goku

Slightly different thread this time All verses has everybody in their prime, Naruto, Bleach and Onepiece universes. Which is the strongest version of Goku they beat together?
www.fanverse.org www.fanverse.org

tanakar988 said:
Bleach hardstops at Dragonball Super due to the massive speed difference.
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Blud arguing that Bleach only loses to DBS due to speed difference. :lmao

I don't know even what to think of this dude anymore.
 
shiny said:
FGO. I'm just arguing with one guy here, and based on Gilles' EX he proves that Ex is worse than A, since his Book is weaker than Cuchulainn Alter's B++ Gae Bolg.
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I mean if you are being absolutely technical, EX doesn't always mean off the charts power, EX usually means that it's not on the scale for plenty of reasons(It being too powerful is one but the other can be unironically esoteric as shit).
Like if you go with the obvious shit(i.e. Cu Alter having a far stronger Saint Graph than Gilles), then yeah, Cu Alter's Gae Bolg >>>> Prelati's Spellbook but that's a really stupid way to go about it because Prelati's Spellbook isn't based on strength or power. It won't allow you to throw around bullshit powerful nukes that can stand a chance against a Planet Rending Laser but considering it can basically summon small Outer God-like beings that have ridiculous regenerative capabilities, virtually Cthulu with the same insane regenerative properties AND consistently give Magical Energy enough to keep it's Servant around?

I would say that's still broken as hell even not getting into Prelati(the person) can easily talk to Gilles while in the Throne of Heroes because of said book...
 
Regular-Nothing Eric said:
Think it ends there?

Well there's more where that came from:

The Big 3 Verses vs Goku

Slightly different thread this time All verses has everybody in their prime, Naruto, Bleach and Onepiece universes. Which is the strongest version of Goku they beat together?
www.fanverse.org www.fanverse.org





Blud arguing that Bleach only loses to DBS due to speed difference. :lmao

I don't know even what to think of this dude anymore.
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I see Morgan's still beating his ass. Good on him.
 

I know someone put this thread here before but I just want to clarify it:

I think Naruto from the Last is stronger than what we see in Boruto. Boruto should be judged by its own feats. Boruto is a weaker verse than Naruto because all the strongest parties are gone. I'm not even sure Code Scales to Ten Tails. So I don't know. Kenpachi might be out of Code's league. I'm curious? So who wins?
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Like goddamn, why even HAVE the debate when if you try and do that, Boruto comes off as a completely incoherent series that makes zero sense whatsoever? It's legit worse than RWBY in terms of scaling without Naruto feats backing it up(As you suddenly have Adult Sasuke running out of Chakra doing anything when he was a chakra tank as much as Naruto was, everyone's attacks being FAR smaller scale than it was even with the first intro of the Bijuudama and consistent retcons that make no real sense at all like Boruto's Spirit Bomb should require Nature Chakra to use but somehow doesn't at all).

Like only the Movie can remotely help with the scaling but it only does so much.
 

I don't think there's any reason to believe the summons took damage from the shinra tensei directly rather than the fact that they were pushed into the ground at high speeds?
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Cite?(Towards Shinra Tensei being a Gravity Based Jutsu...)

I mean

Also cite? Kakashi's lightning clone managed to tank the attraction technique and clones are able to be one shot by literally anything.
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I swear, you can't be fucking serious on something like this and think you are being a genuinely good debater...

By trying to state that you ONLY take damage from Shinra Tensei from hitting the ground(Which makes zero sense at all with Super Shinra Tensei) and then wondering how is it a Gravity Based Jutsu(When it's literally based on Attraction and Repelling of Gravity, Magnetism isn't anything close) and stating that Kakashi's Clone tanked it it's most likely that Pain wasn't trying to go all in with that Shinra Tensei as he did against the Boss Summons... maybe it was because he can control how strong Shinra Tensei is?(Even his "Super" version is still JUST a Shinra Tensei, he just amped it so hard that he's unable to use it for minutes afterwards).
 
Regular-Nothing Eric said:
Think it ends there?

Well there's more where that came from:

The Big 3 Verses vs Goku

Slightly different thread this time All verses has everybody in their prime, Naruto, Bleach and Onepiece universes. Which is the strongest version of Goku they beat together?
www.fanverse.org www.fanverse.org





Blud arguing that Bleach only loses to DBS due to speed difference. :lmao

I don't know even what to think of this dude anymore.
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The worst offender in that shit-show of a thread is Artist, for obvious reasons, but Tanakar(NightmareCinema's dupe) is a close second, just for that braindead take alone, never mind that foul post of his in an earlier thread basically pulling precisely what Artist did with Toriyama on someone's parent, which just makes them two terrible peas in a pod, really.
 

Wow.

Cool. That's useful- I concede I was wrong.



But even in that case, when considering gravity, the Toads having such large mass means they would experience much higher force than what Sukuna or Meruem would have to. And their size means they would suffer the force's effects less and whatnot
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People not knowing basic laws of physics... AGAIN! You wouldn't not experience much more force being larger than you would be being smaller against something like Shinra Tensei in real life.
It's completely misunderstanding why an Elephant would die falling from a similar distance a human could survive from which is more or less the SQUARE CUBE LAW, NOT Gravity!

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And even then, it shouldn't even WORK in this instance because the anime and manga fully show the Boss Toads are capable of nonsense like this:

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So I have no idea what the point of this nonsense is past downplay Shinra Tensei to the point Meruem and Sukuna can survive it when they very, very much shouldn't. Typical SB behavior.
 
shiny said:
So...What does Sukuna even doing here?
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The same reason Sukuna is in fights he has no chance in the first place:

SB wanks the unholy shit out of Cleave/Dismantle/Shrine/Furnace and act as if Sukuna would destroy most verses because they can't tell Cleave and Dismantle being able to cut a building(Especially when he spams it) does not mean he's suddenly cutting characters beyond his purview because they have been cut before(Like in the Meruem and Sukuna vs. Pain thread, they think Meruem would DIE from Malevolent Shrine trying to kill Pain when Meruem, nay, characters far weaker than Meruem took shit similar to MS's power without even being badly hurt like Killua literally taking an attack that destroyed a huge ass boulder with no serious injuries in the Chimera Ant Arc).
 

Pain would die long before he would get the chance to touch Sukuna
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Only in the land of Spacebattles... and the random JJK Stans that really want to pretend that their series is up there with the greats.

If you agree that Pain's attack is gravity based, then that therefore means that objects with more mass experiences more force from the gravity.

That's why something like Chibaku Tensei tears up the ground into many smaller pieces but does not damage the pieces once they reach a certain size

Pain's attraction and repelling never notably damaged human sized targets, literally ever. The best you got is the feat of Pain pushing Naruto into the mountain really hard but that does not mean the gravity itself affected Naruto with significant force, but rather it made him collide into the ground really hard.
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I legit cannot understand at all how someone cannot understand Gravity nor the fact that Shinra Tensei can be controlled? It's somehow just an extremely foreign concept but it makes perfect sense when you also have people also genuinely believe Meruem would die to Malevolent Shrine and that Meruem's speed is somehow nothing to Sukuna...

what about the numerous differences between chakra and CE?

Is Chakra negative emotions personified? Would chakra be disrupted by another form of chakra multiplied by itself? Can you transform fear into chakra?

You could argue that it should be equalized, but that's hard to prove. And even if you did, it's still a major feat to detect Sukuna's slashes.

Gojo, who has the six eyes, didn't do so against Sukuna's slashes and he's even better at that sight than most characters.

Kashimo might have detected them, but that just means x ray vision can see them while CE sensing still can't.
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Oh boy, here comes dude basically using SB's extremely retarded rules to further push a non-existent point...

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The Rinnegan (輪廻眼, literally meaning: Saṃsāra Eye) is reputed as the most exalted eye amongst the "Three Great Dōjutsu",[3] the others being the Sharingan and the Byakugan. It is said that in times of disorder, one who wields the Rinnegan is sent down from the heavens to become either a "God of...
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The Rinnegan contains extraordinarily powerful chakra and boasts enormous ocular power, such that an unworthy wielder risks "losing themselves" upon implanting one. Their full power can only be brought out by their original owner, particularly when wielding both eyes, but possession of even a single transplanted Rinnegan can still grant overwhelming power.[29] It is able to see chakra and its flow within the body,[36] as well as otherwise invisible barriers,[37]
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Again, Gojo's Six Eyes not being able to see Sukuna's BINDING VOW BOOSTED(Because I love how people forget that was required) World Dismantle(Which people have complained about for many reasons) doesn't mean it would be impossible to see for any other eye user. It has no basis because we are not told WHY Gojo was not able to react to it nor does it make any sense for Gojo not to be able to react to it. It's basically reaching for something with the flimsiest of takes to believe that no one can see it and thus no one can sense it.

EDIT: And yes, people did argue that MERUEM is dead weight in this battle compared to Pain and Sukuna despite Meruem explicitly fighting Netero in a handicap and both Netero and Meruem are legit faster than anyone in JJK by leaps and bounds and Pain potentially only being just faster by a decent degree.
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Regular-Nothing Eric said:
Think it ends there?

Well there's more where that came from:

The Big 3 Verses vs Goku

Slightly different thread this time All verses has everybody in their prime, Naruto, Bleach and Onepiece universes. Which is the strongest version of Goku they beat together?
www.fanverse.org www.fanverse.org





Blud arguing that Bleach only loses to DBS due to speed difference. :lmao

I don't know even what to think of this dude anymore.
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takanar988 Imagine still mocking Toriyama's death simply because you got anally devastated for your dumbass posts.
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^ Coming from a guy that mocks the deceased relatives of a user that left him anally devastated, people that died of COVID-19, and officers killed by the George Floyd riots of Summer 2020, this is rich

:hestonpls
 

@shiny, what are you talking about? The magnetar explosion did not even harm the Nightfighter, it only disabled its wings- which are not part of its overall structure and regenerated shortly afterwards.

Besides, it was not the magnetar itself that stopped the Nightfighter but rather the crystallization of space-time around its wings caused by the electromagnetic fields which prevented its drive from working and only because of how they work- in general relativity, an object can move in a curved spacetime by performing cyclic changes in its shape which the principle on which wings made up of curved space-time function. The working of the drive unit can disabled by effects that cause exotic changes in the nature of the spacetime such as the structure of the spacetime becoming birefringent because of a magnetar burst.

Besides, keep in mind that this is only their sublight drive, the hyperdrive which lets them go FTL and time-travel is separate and another thing entirely. Moreover, there is the fact that the Nightfighter was captured because of a wider plan of the Xeelee. That's like using Shirou beating Gilgamesh as an argument, only worse because the Nightfighter here was captured with its own consent.

I would seriously argue that a single Nightfighter stomps the entire Nasuverse into the ground in a neutral universe where it can access the configuration space. No really, it took one Nightfighter to erase human history which included the Transcendence.
 
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