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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Kenpachi winning the poll :jordangif
Kenpachi brutalizes him.

You've effectively taken away 99% of his moveset. The only thing he can hope to do is BFR Kenpachi
Which is irrelevant when Ichibei broke Base Moustache's blut just by fucking FLEXING.
He doesn't need anything more than his bare hands to murder Bankai Kenpachi.
And what do these do? If they hit directly, I'd buy he gets blown away

But that's if.
Acting like Ichibeii being able to hit Kenpachi is an IF. :heston
All I have to say is....and?

Do I have a single reason to think either of those two wouldn't get bodied by Bankai Kenpachi if it came to blows?
You mean aside from both Base Moustache and Bankai Yamamoto having better feats and hype than Bankai Kenpachi?
They are NOT the ones with something to prove here.
I'll say this very clearly, the trajectory the anime is going with doesn't make Kenpachi and co less impressive. It makes them MORE so.
It really doesn't.

The very fact that THEY are the ones who are going to push the Elites to their limits is how we know they aren't remotely on the level the Unsealed RG, Base Moustache, Ichigo, Uryu or Ichibei are now.
The Royal Guard in their shikai were already above Shikai Yamamoto, and the elites manhandled them in Vollstandig.
Yeah, Pernida also negged Kenpachi who was even pierced by the likes of Mayuri, while even Shikai Kenpachi got owned by Gerard outside of his initial sneak attack.

Yet you're acting like Kenpachi would have done any better than Yamamoto in the same form. They BOTH need Bankai to seriously fight the Elites.

And all this is ignoring the fact that the RG were SEALED in this instance, and the second one was no longer sealed, she completely soloed them without ANY effort. Whereas Base Moustache is actually ABLE to fight Ichibei (who has no such seal) without being instantly murked, even on a physical level.

This isn't the bad look for Base Moustache you think it is Sables.
These guys will go through hoops to overpower the Gotei at their best. I have no reason to consider either Base Yhwach or Ichibei stronger than them when suppressed themselves.
You JUST stated the reason dumbfuck.

Uryu one-shotted an UNSEALED RG (who soloed the Elites effortlessely) when not even using his true Vollstanding, then outfought the guy who bodied Base Moustache (True Shikai Ichigo) while still not even using his strongest form as he hasn't used Sklaverei yet.

Once again, the Gotei (who we KNOW already are NOT on the level of the Unsealed RG, not even the ones who trained there) pushing them to their limits DOES NOT mean what you think it means.
And it remains so to those comparable to Shikai Yamamoto. Unfortunately, it's going to be relatively insufficient here for reasons already stated.
You haven't given any actual reasons though, just stated nonsense.
Kenpachi is not doing anything against someone who can blitz Yamamoto.
Base Yhwach bodies Base Ichibei (and these three) by the way.
Base Ichibei broke his Blut by fucking FLEXING, what the shit are you talking bout?
Despite Ichibei's efforts, he got nowhere against Yhwach. Anything and everything he tried, Yhwach ended up countering and healing. Meanwhile, if Ichibei didn't have Ichimonji, Yhwach would have steamrolled him with Sankt Altar, and not a scratch on him for the aftermath of the fight.
"If the guy who is MUCH stronger than Gotei level Fighters didn't have his hax ability, Moustache would have beaten him with his hax ability." :whatisthis

How is any of this relevant to Kenpachi, whom neither one NEEDS any of these abilities to defeat?
Like I really don't think you and others actually get how Yhwach plays. His central power is stealing from those around him to gain power, not nuking those around him.
Oh my God, you can't be this fucking stupid. :facepalm

JUST because a character has a lot of hax/is hax focused, doesn't mean they aren't ALSO powerhouses dumbo. Moustache and Ichibei have better feats than the Elites or Gotei level Soul Reapers, be it from a hax standpoint, a physical standpoint or a spiritual power standpoint.

Ichibei beats Bankai Kenpachi TO DEATH with his bare hands without any issue, FULL STOP!
 

I tend to not bring these in there but holy shit is BossKitten an idiot, moreso than the typical FV Bleacher I have seen.
I do not understand how you don't get that The Almighty as shown in the anime isn't instant, is pretty limited and considering how Yhwach uses it vs. how Observation Haki at it's strongest work, it wouldn't be as effective on Luffy than it is anyone else and bringing up how far in the future The Almighty works doesn't bring in that it's still limiting as shit.
 
literally what

Observation Haki is objectively worse than the Almighty

and if it's post-SK Yhwach Luffy's future sight shouldn't even be part of the discussion (he absorbed Mimihagi who was immune to his own future sight)
 
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Xcano shut the fuck up dawg. the fuck you mean:
I don't think things like "hitting an apple to the Moon" are really calculable. The apple just isn't moving that fast, and it's not like it impacts with the energy of an atom bomb

This weird ass bias you have where no cartoons can be strong is fucking insane. This is the same nigga that thinks because pokemon is a kids show then ash would get traumatised if he was in attack on titan.

Fucking clownery
 



This weird ass bias you have where no cartoons can be strong is fucking insane. This is the same nigga that thinks because pokemon is a kids show then ash would get traumatised if he was in attack on titan.

Fucking clownery

This is honestly why this hobby is going to shit.
People can't no longer just deal with outliers, they have to make EVERYTHING be outliers, even if it makes no damn sense or was done later on because "It doesn't work under physics" like ALL OF FICTION DOESN'T DO?!

American Cartoons and Live Action is no different than Japanese Cartoons or Live Action, get off of it.
 
@Paxton @Astaro

Im not wrong in thinking Vento neg diffs like 90% of the people in the verse just by being around right?
Vento sucks but yeah pretty much.

You either need to not need oxygen or look at every day people with such utter indifference that even murdering someone feels like nothing more than pulling out weeds like Kihara Amata just to deal with Divine Punishment

Or your Touma
 

Da Vinci:
So ORT arrived in Mictlan that early... But if that's the case, the deinos would have never flourished... Oh, I get it. ORT died from the shock of the collision. The reason why ORT is nowhere to be found in Mictlan is precisely because of that. It's already dead, so obviously nobody has seen it.

Wow, just take shit out of context huh?! Maybe the reason Mictlan never seen ORT... was because Camazotz removed it's fucking Heart when it woke up to destroy it's civilization?! Because it clearly woke the fuck up to destroy his civilization before the Deinos fully thrived as the story itself states!

God, I hate this user as much as Su-Cal because motherfucker genuinely believes he knows FGO like the back of his hand because he knows where to find the Japanese text and uses DeepL...


Being created by the tree of fantasy doesn't to prove your claim.

A being literally manifested from something that creates a full on Galaxy in terms of everything that's in it but made of energy... isn't Galaxy level

I swear these people will fully believe CF Garou is capable of a full on Gamma Ray Burst but Galactic Servants and not counting the Servantverse? Too much man... what do you mean there's an Event about Servants and Servantverse Servants fighting each other?!


EDIT: And I was already right on the 2nd fucking page:


If we are willing to scale ORT that high based purely off statements, then Cosmic Garou scales even higher thanks to causing a Gamma Ray Burst, which are millions of times more powerful than Solar storms.

Ignore that Lostbelt ORT explicitly has a move called Cosmic Ray Burst which is heavily implied to BE a Gamma Ray Burst it can just use on command(This isn't getting into LB ORT being able to emit temperatures on the level of a Neutron Star just as naturally(1 Trillion Degrees)... and U-Olga at full blast would have actually been able to fully take him over.
 

Exactly. So long as there's even the slightest doubt that those are real galaxies, we take it that they aren't. Especially since the Trees seem to work off the same principle as Chaldeas, which simulates a miniature Earth.

1. Ah ok, so in a series where a copy can be superior to the original has been longrunning for decades, we are just supposed to believe that because it's "Fake" means we can throw everything about it under the bus? Then why is Cosmic Fear Garou even here then?!

2. https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Chaldea_Security_Organization#CHALDEAS

The Simulated Global Environment Model "CHALDEAS" (疑似地球環境モデル・カルデアス, Giji Chikyū Kankyō Moderu Karudeasu?) was completed in 1990 A.D. Utilizing the soul of the World as a foundation and basis, the system manifests in miniature a perfectly accurate replica of the planetary body of Earth, permitting a representation of the World's status both in past and future eras. However, detailed observation of specific time-space locales is impossible without the assistance of SHEBA.

There is a reason why Daybit needed ORT to destroy CHALDEAS... and if that's the case, then if we put the same logic to the Galaxies within the Trees of Emptiness, why would them being miniature matter at all when they show all of the typical readings of one?!
 
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