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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever


tbf i got it from Seventhmoon who has really good takes (save for on DB). >Here< is the original post.

Good takes from Type-Moon
From ComicVine

:diolaugh :risigif:jordangif

Someone is genuinely using that garbage from ComicVine to pretend that Type-Moon has a new canon for the new games and thus are non-canon from the original games... which include Nasu stating that the recent releases don't come across the same as Tsukihime... when all that means is the recent releases aren't as gritty and fucked up as the original release of Tsukihime and Heaven's Feel was vs. being far more hopeful and less gritty.

And why are they using this for?


It's shown that you can travel to the very physical Root, which is the origin of everything in Type-Moon, by dreaming. We see it, it's a physical location. This isn't a thing in Old Type-Moon. It was straight up abstract there. What is the definition of abstract? Something that has no physical existence, it cannot be touched, seen, or heard, only thought of. Think of it like the laws of physics. As such, it doesn't exist anywhere in a particular location. And cannot be affected by anything physical.

Apparently because you meet Void Shiki in a dream in Garden of Sinners, then it MUST be the Root and you somehow PHYSICALLY TRAVELED TO THE ROOT!
:garrett

Needless to say...
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This is wrong on so many levels(You just meet Void Shiki in a dream, the same fashion you meet Okita Alter in her Room of the Void, you never reach the Root with either of them in any fashion).
 

Do you not see how telepathic attacks in dreams aren't applicable to parallel worlds? How about we exercise a modicum of critical thinking here?

You can tell this dude and the people upvoting this never even touched FGO because that's the entire point of Shimousa! It's literally stated point blank that while it does exist(though on the verge of becoming a pruned timeline), the way Ritsuka went there is the equivalent of them dreaming and they can die while in that dream(This happens AGAIN in the Apocrypha Collab Event as well as you get transferred into Sieg-Fafnir's world by Sieg himself while you are sleeping) and the events happen in real time.

It's amazing how they love bringing up shit like "Critical Thinking" and going all in for themselves... but it's explicitly explained as such in the game itself if they bothered to do even basic research.


As opposed to entering via rayshifting, Ritsuka Fujimaru was transported inside via dreams.[2]
 
Continental is easy to prove. Stilling Blasts alone were enough to destroy continents-




The context behind Eden crashing into Earth and dying is that she had already shed 99.99% of her body by the time she had reached Earth in preperation of the cycle.

The part of her that had impacted the planet was equivalent to a single cell of human body, rest of her body was already discarded. The shard alone can be larger than moons and billions of billions of these shards together form a single Entity- all of those had been thrown away, including her defensive powers.

It's almost as if 90% of the posters here have not read the series and are arguing from hearsay. Jeez...

Anyways, Scion is around planetary and Warrior Entity is around star level with a ton of powers. That's the power level of Worm in a nutshell.

That sounds like it only surface wiped the continent by using Stilling and deleting everything on the Continent. This won't do anything to Archetype: Earth who explicitly is capable of handling something of that calibur extremely easily and would most likely just overcome Stilling with absolute sheer force from the Planet itself or from a World Backup and just gain a stronger version of Stilling(Which is easy because Hades Authority is just that and Nasuverse Earth has genuine authority over any and every Divine Spirit so...)
 
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Xhom, those are two different quotes.

"Continents rendered uninhabitable, ecosystems demolished, weather patterns shifting. Our opponent was nigh-untouchable, capable of crossing between different Earths like we crossed a room, and we barely understood him."

"He came out swinging, obliterating two continents on two different worlds before he found us."

From what you've posted (and from what I've seen), all Hades' Authority does is destroy matter. Which.. Stilling can do and more.

(Also, since when can Arcueid use every Authority of every Divine Spirit?)

A better argument would be Arcueid removing the foundation of his abilities working via the shit she did to Roa.
 
god they are doing the thing where they bring up feats for the warrior entity and give it to scion despite scion not being nearly as powerful as the warrior entity.

:FucksSake: :FucksSake: :FucksSake:
 
god they are doing the thing where they bring up feats for the warrior entity and give it to scion despite scion not being nearly as powerful as the warrior entity.

:FucksSake: :FucksSake: :FucksSake:
What? The dimensional travel? His precog/knowledge of alternate realities?

That's stuff Scion can do too.
 
What? The dimensional travel? His precog/knowledge of alternate realities?

That's stuff Scion can do too.
:JokerSerious:

Pax i specifically said the Warrior Entities feats, not his abilities. I understand you want to defend the verse but god damn dude relax
 
This won't do anything to Archetype: Earth
Sure, I wouldn't disagree with Arc taking this. I can even see Scion losing to Zeus and Arjuna Alter despite both of them being weaker than Arc.

But my point is that you can argue that without downplaying Worm to such an absurd point that the story itself stops making sense anymore The entire point of Golden Morning was Scion destroying a huge chunk of Earths across multiple alternate realities, the entire point of the Cycle is Entities destroying all alternate variants of the planet in the multiverse and gathering the energy released in a single universe- saying Entities die to planetary impact or that Scion never destroyed a continent is willful ignorance at this point.

Argue for Fate all you want, but why say stupid things about Worm when it seems as if you haven't actually read it? Let's just give credit where it's due and leave it at that.
they are doing the thing where they bring up feats for the warrior entity and give it to scion
If you're talking about my quotes about continental destruction, then they are all from Scion.
The dimensional travel? His precog/knowledge of alternate realities?
PTV feats for Scion would not be applicable unless OP goes out to say that he's kept it activated since he has explicitly deactivated it through all his fights because it's too energy intensive.

Dimensional travel is fair game, he can traverse into alternate realities as easily as humans walk. He does not use many powers even though he has them.
 
Sure, I wouldn't disagree with Arc taking this. I can even see Scion losing to Zeus and Arjuna Alter despite both of them being weaker than Arc.

But my point is that you can argue that without downplaying Worm to such an absurd point that the story itself stops making sense anymore The entire point of Golden Morning was Scion destroying a huge chunk of Earths across multiple alternate realities, the entire point of the Cycle is Entities destroying all alternate variants of the planet in the multiverse and gathering the energy released in a single universe- saying Entities die to planetary impact or that Scion never destroyed a continent is willful ignorance at this point.

Argue for Fate all you want, but why say stupid things about Worm when it seems as if you haven't actually read it? Let's just give credit where it's due and leave it at that.

If you're talking about my quotes about continental destruction, then they are all from Scion.

PTV feats for Scion would not be applicable unless OP goes out to say that he's kept it activated since he has explicitly deactivated it through all his fights because it's too energy intensive.

Dimensional travel is fair game, he can traverse into alternate realities as easily as humans walk.
Nah im not talking about you dawg.

Its a thing SB does specifically with Scion where they will use Shit the warrior entity has done and then give those feats to scion, despite scion not being nearly as strong as WE. its fucking weird man

Hell they put this nigga in a thread with not only fucking alien x but Examon and Jesmon
:heston
 
the funniest thing ive seen with scion/TWE so far was someone attempting to tell me that Golden Amazo had no way to hurt TWE cause he was too durable
:heston
 
Its a thing SB does specifically with Scion where they will use
Unless he's activated PTV, which he never does- Scion only uses stilling, dimensional travel, and adaptation.

Anything else is wank. I don't know why people like to give him other Parahuman powers for tricky combinations, as if he'd use them without PTV.

:mjgrin

On that note, SB is using Parahumans drawing upon the power of every alternate timeline and being unable to breach his shields use as a feat for Scion, saying that even a single joule taken from all those alternate Earths gives trillions of times universal output. Ignoring that the energy drawn can just be very much smaller than a single joule to give a more conservative output. That's not even a highball, it's straight-up wanking.
 
Unless he's activated PTV, which he never does- Scion only uses stilling, dimensional travel, and adaptation.

Anything else is wank. I don't know why people like to give him other Parahuman powers for tricky combinations, as if he'd use them without PTV.

:mjgrin

On that note, SB is using Parahumans drawing upon the power of every alternate timeline and being unable to breach his shields use as a feat for Scion, saying that even a single joule taken from all those alternate Earths gives trillions of times universal output. Ignoring that the energy drawn can just be very much smaller than a single joule to give a more conservative output. That's not even a highball, it's straight-up wanking.

Like not a single person on this site will deny how strong scion is. But holy shit does SB like to go overboard with the dude sometimes.

They had Scion defeat majin buu because, even though buu was ragdolling his ass all over the place "he couldnt kill TWE so its a loss"
:heston

Then they had him beat Doomsday in one thread
 
Ugh, you just gave me flashbacks to that awful Beerus vs Warrior thread.

People saying that Warrior would defeat Beerus with the trillions of powers he has but none of them actually answering how.
That shit was hilarious
:heston
 
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