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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Update:

They made a revision thread for this shit https://vsbattles.com/threads/black-clover-good-bye-mftl-speed.174512/

Because of course ONE statement of Morgen's attack being lightspeed neutralizes all the FTL feats the series already fucking had beforehand :giogio
idk if it’s still there but they did this witht jojo too where they had part 4, and only part 4, capped at relativistic-lightspeed because of the RHCP statements and used Jotaro being rusty as the justification
 
Update:

They made a revision thread for this shit https://vsbattles.com/threads/black-clover-good-bye-mftl-speed.174512/

Because of course ONE statement of Morgen's attack being lightspeed neutralizes all the FTL feats the series already fucking had beforehand :giogio

I find that weird since by that logic, you can say the same shit about the Nasuverse and it would be just as retarded.

Licht/Patsy existed, he fought Asta, Yami and Julius and they all dodged his Light Based attacks in various fashions and dudes got better and stronger than him since.
 
I find that weird since by that logic, you can say the same shit about the Nasuverse and it would be just as retarded.

Licht/Patsy existed, he fought Asta, Yami and Julius and they all dodged his Light Based attacks in various fashions and dudes got better and stronger than him since.
Yup. There's also Gauche's Mirror Magic light beams which Asta could react to even with his eyes closed using Ki
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It's consistent as can be, pretty much.
 
Uh no. :whatisthis
An alternative way to ask is, are the gaps as huge as we think, at least in terms of comparing their physical durability?
Yes they generally are.

The advantage Bleach characters have though is most of them use swords or some variety of cutting or piercing weapon allowing them to punch a little bit above their weight class. There's a reason why someone being able to catch or tank those attacks with their bare hands/skin is treated like such a huge deal when it does happen.
The manner in which Uryu blew out Ichigo’s side with a relatively small arrow got me thinking; it pretty much shows that Ichigo’s offensive strength is way above his defensive strength.
How do you arrive at that conclusion?

Vollstanding Uryu was on par with Ichigo for the whole fight, of course he can't just straight up tank an arrow from him. Not sure why you're highlighting the size of it when it was larger than the arrows surrounding him in Vollstanding which were already giving Ichigo trouble.
That would line up with Robert threatening him with a gun to the head,
He never threatened shit, Ichigo casually dodged that and later Uryu's base arrows could barely pierce him at all.
breaking his hand when punching Giselle,
The fuck are you talking about? When did that happen?
or Candice’s output appearing to threaten him.
Never happened at all.

Ichigo was completely bored the entire fight and the only time he showed any concern at all was when he yelling at HER to dodge HIS attack, because he was afraid it would kill her (which it would have done if she hadn't mitigated it with her own attack slightly).
Matter of fact, Ichigo easily broke Kirinji’s hand without zangetsu as well.
And your point is what?
That Ichigo was strong as fuck at this point? Obviously, that's all that proves
So, if a brick like Ichigo can be hurt/killed by (far) weaker characters,
He can't.
does that apply uniformly to the other characters?
Nope, the Nazis are the only ones you can make a case for due to their reliance on Blut Vene for their durability.
Otherwise no, character's durability tends to at least be comparable to their output.
Or is my idea just flawed?
It is.
 
90% of chars use weapons which make piercing skin and armor easier

"why are so many chars hurt by these weapons, they must be glass cannons"

Weird shit to even harp on considering we see the huge difference when it comes to characters like Mask, Soi-Fon, Yourichi and the other rare characters that fight bare handed when they fight against weak opponents:

Yammy believed when he crushed the Nurse Espada's head, he felt it wasn't good because he would have completely split her in half with a sideways hammer punch. Mask and Meninas straight nearly killed their opponents in a single attack and we've seen what they can do too. It's weird to pretend that they must be weak because "lolswords" but ignore the reason why Quincies are so tanky is explicitly due to them having a skill that allows defense in exchange for offense.
 

That applies for the original 3. If you make a precise shot with the power to surface wipe the earth, you can theoretically destroy their core.

Endbringers like Khonshu have All-or-nothing fields between each of their 200 or so layers of skin to further boost their durability.

Starsight spewing out so much garbage I'm honestly just laughing like:
That doesn't work. Worm shows that 2D-ification is entirely possible with a variation of Vista's power, and we know that Endbringer cores directly contest spatial manipulation. Attempting to flatten them runs right into the spatial distortions of their cores, and I don't think AE has the feats to overcome spatial distortion capable of compressing a galaxy of mass into a 9 ton body.
Pruning shouldn't work. Worm worlds are far more numerous than Fate without being subjected to pruning, so you'd be arbitrarily imposing AE's cosmology over Worm's. At best you could argue that AE could prune the main Earth that they fight in with Rule 9 equalization, but you don't have grounds to say that the alternate worlds that the Endbringers portal to would be subject to AE's influence since they explicitly aren't timelines that split off from the main one but rather a set number of extant non-intersectional universes that diverge over time due to minor differences. For example, if you travel back in time in Earth Bet, you won't be able to hop over into the Earth Aleph timeline.

Yeah, I'm completely with @Masterblack06 on this shit, Spacebattles cannot debate Worm worth a damn without lying to hell and back or overexaggerating their scope something fierce.
 

If they wasn't being such downplaying assholes, this would actually be another decently fair matchup considering Over Heaven DIO actually has flaws in his abilities that can be exploited even in that list.

But this is SB again so no one will be given their fair shake and you will have dumbasses believe Aoko's abilities have limits she wouldn't have in a non-Nasuverse setting(And ignore DIO would be under those same rules).
 
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