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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Darth Zion said:
I don't see a problem with their pixel scaling.

If they're going for vaporization, then the yield should be in double to triple digit kilotons which is about as strong as a weak nuke, so it oddly fits the theme and the scale.
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so how the heck are they getting megatons from vaporization is my question....They also seem to be trying to calc it as one big sphere of destruction rather then an explosive.

Also not really sure about the logic of widen magic giving double results, widen magic would double the size of the spell/crater but it wouldn't actually increase the damage of the spell, just make it bigger but that might just be a case of having to ignore it since overlords weird.
 
We look at bullet-related speed feats the same way we look at everything else, in that it's a case-by-case basis. Sure you could be stuck at subsonic from dodging or deflecting bullets (which is almost always aimdodging, mind you) but then you have shit like Yakuza characters going into decently hypersonic levels by doing the same thing but, well, better. Usually by doing so point blank. 🤷‍♂️

The idea that bullet feats aren't worth much is also pretty laughable tbh, the fact that we can just look up pretty much all possible information regarding any firearms (real ones, mind you) that appear in fiction gives us a very reliable point of comparison for feats and especially calcs. For reference, the speed of lightning itself is dependent on a lot of different factors and can go anywhere from single-digit hypersonic to blatantly relativistic. We just use a nice average.
 
Well overlords not helped that it's not a real gun, it's called a heavy machine gun varient of the arcane rifle, its around eight feet tall (The suit is about ten feet tall and the guns only slightly shorter then it)
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For anyone curious

The scene in the anime:


And the scene in the light novel: Faced with the unknown projectiles, the Dual-Wielder swung its swords. The sharp ting sounds of whatever was flying towards it being sliced into pieces could be heard. But there was a limit to it.

Two swords could not have dealt with the dozens or even hundreds of projectiles. The tiny projectiles flew at shocking speeds as it penetrated the enemy. The Dual-Wielder started twitching as though it had muscle spasms and like the Shield-Bearer before it, it disappeared.

Doubt they'd give good results in general but figured Id share since the topic was up. Though I gotta say something about the death warrior slicing the bullets rather then trying to deflect them/block them with their sword makes me chuckle.
 
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Flowering Knight said:
Sure you could be stuck at subsonic from dodging or deflecting bullets
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On the contrary, I would argue that the only supersonic speed that can come from bullets is when they are intercepted inches away from the target.

No other bullet feat can be supersonic, unless there are multiple guns involved or characters actually outpace the bullet instead of dodging/deflecting it.

Which as you said, falls to the 'case by case' category?
 
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Masterblack06 said:




T-T-T-TRIPLE HYDROGEN BOMBS VS COUGHING BABIES
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Missed one...

From what I remember, Freiran buddies non high or mid tier type moon characters…

I would be surprised if vlov somehow has a decent chance against her
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Another stupid take from the "Resident Nasuverse Expert" There Is A Dragon...
Believing Frieren is superior to anyone not in the High Tiers of the Nasuverse. That's the saddest joke I've seen yet.
 
I get Ragna who could solo the whole verse

Whose who for that Homelander matchup?

And don’t know who Mira Yoo is. Some webtoon character?
 

Rare time that people just argue Gilgamesh vapes... I was legit expecting people to try and argue the retarded meme that "Gilgamesh just roll over and dies" for the thousandth time over people really trying to force in Jujutsufolk memes on Fate because "I only watched the animated shows and looked at 2 events of FGO and nothing else".

None of the the guardians have time stop and servants have resistance to instant death hax. Their World Items may help but we don't know what any of them do aside from Aura's and Mare's which wouldn't be all that useful here.
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Rarer still even TheOneBellowAll isn't trying to pull BS out of his ass that the Floor Guardians have any shot at defeating Gilgamesh...

Besides the usual upscaling in ability, fsn is riddled with fanon perception of how willing he is to kill people considering the author goes out of his way to state he lost either to "protagonist privilege" or , and i'm being literal here, "the power of love".

Considering how many versus debates disregard narrative, it's always amazing to me how everyone keeps talking about his losses as if it isnt literally the hand of the author.
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The fact you even have someone actually point out that Gilgamesh's losses are less of "him being an idiot" and like people actually remembered in the past that "Nasu had to explicitly make Gilgamesh lose" and just wrote BS on why.
It's literally been Gilgamesh has consistently won more than he has ever lost(From basically being a literal wrecking ball to CCC and Extella to his major loss in FGO was either being bumrushed by some of the strongest Servants when he expected to only fight just one to having 3 Goddesses AND Tiamat and assloads of Demonic Beasts all on his own according to his vision.
 

Okay, I will laugh at them trying to scale Gilgamesh and Enkidu ABOVE Quetzalcoatl when if anything, SHE scales above them.
You don't even need to remotely go that far to push up either Gilgamesh or Enkidu. Even the best scale you can get with any of the Floor Guardians is WAY too little to do anything to Gilgamesh with F/SF-F/GO scaling and Servants can deal with Instant Death Spells as long as it's not shit from the World itself(like Primordial Runes) which Ainz and Co. don't have within their spell repretoire and Ainz isn't living long enough for TGOALID to happen.
 
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