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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Masterblack06 said:
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Since when have One Piece guns reliably tagged something as fast as Pikachu, that was actively trying to dodge them? :really
Masterblack06 said:
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT

Imagine 1000 mini enels just running around zapping hundreds of niggas at once
Yeah the named people should be fine, but 90% of everyone else is fucked. Whitebeard then proceeds to nuke marineford and takes the pikachus with him

Fucking hell Mook
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Exactly, you don't need to talk out of your ass for Pikachu to lose this but for some reason people are so fucking adverse to thinking of the electric cartoon mouse as the powerful character that he is, they have to ignore the feats that Pikachu has and treat him like fodder.
 
Adamant soul said:
Since when have One Piece guns reliably tagged something as fast as Pikachu, that was actively trying to dodge them? :really

Exactly, you don't need to talk out of your ass for Pikachu to lose this but people are so fucking adverse to thinking of the electric cartoon mouse as the powerful character that he is, they have to ignore the feats that Pikachu has.
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I blame Xcano for this cause he was the nigga peddling that stupid

"Its a cartoon it cant be that strong" bullshit
 
Masterblack06 said:

Immortality team is fucking cooked jesus christ
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Herakles(F/SN) Only
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My dude, he is still carrying that team no matter how SB thinks otherwise(pretending Mahoraga matters or is better at all is the most absolute cope). Would not be surprised if the character in Inshura is just as cracked and Ultimate Kars completely destroys most of the Immortal team on his own anyway.
 
Masterblack06 said:
I blame Xcano for this cause he was the nigga peddling that stupid

"Its a cartoon it cant be that strong" bullshit
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Ah yes disregarding shit because "cartoon logic" even when it's completely consistently with everything else we're shown, including when the story is being serious and it's not being done for comedic effect. :smh
 
@Masterblack06 @Adamant soul
Yeah, looking through that Pikachu thread, I never wanted to strangle someone in a long time like Mook is doing right now.
God, "Anti-Feats" is the dumbest concept and I want to strangle whoever let that shit into vogue, especially as you can't anti-feat shit in Pokemon because we have seen and acknowledge that as long as you train the low evolutionaries correctly, they can even defeat stronger evolved Pokemon no problem.
In what universe is a gun stronger than an Aegislash or a freaking Hyper Beam?
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
@Masterblack06 @Adamant soul
Yeah, looking through that Pikachu thread, I never wanted to strangle someone in a long time like Mook is doing right now.
God, "Anti-Feats" is the dumbest concept and I want to strangle whoever let that shit into vogue, especially as you can't anti-feat shit in Pokemon because we have seen and acknowledge that as long as you train the low evolutionaries correctly, they can even defeat stronger evolved Pokemon no problem.
In what universe is a gun stronger than an Aegislash or a freaking Hyper Beam?
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Especially when the Pokemon that (even in the anime) are supposed to be weak/fodder such as Magikarp have feats utterly shitting on firearms in every single way.

As far as Hyper Beam goes, how dumb do you have to be to think that's weaker than bullets? :heston
 
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For some reason when it came to Mahito getting murked by Sukuna, there's one thing people either are ignorant to (somehow) or purposely ignore, it's that Sukuna consciously attacked Mahito. Mahito doesn't automatically get murked when trying to manipulate a strong soul it's when the soul actively can use it's powers to fight back. Unless something changed that I don't know about servants when they transform themselves into souls can't really do anything unlike Sukuna.
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I see we back in Spacebattles ignoring that... yes, Shayatan IS a living Demonic being which is why Cursed Arm's Final Gambit of giving separating the arm from himself and putting it on Reverse Tristan... turned him into Shayatan...

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Zabaniya

Zabaniya (ザバーニーヤ, Zabānīya?) is the name of the Noble Phantasms of all the nineteen people who have taken the title of Hassan-i-Sabbah. Each one of the nineteen had to earn their title by proving their piety through obtaining a divine miracle bearing the name of ShayṭānWP that met the criteria...
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Unlike other Hassans, the Cursed Arm Hassan himself possesses no special talent, so he obtains this ability by sacrificing his right arm to a demon god, sealing said demon in his arm in the process. As a last resort, Cursed Arm can forcibly remove his right arm and summon the demon Shaytan from it. This results in a soul-devouring, nigh-unstoppable demon that kills and devours everything around it... but Cursed Arm has no control over it and it's highly likely to eat him once it's killed everything else in the vicinity. Only King Hassan's intervention saves him after it finishes devouring Tristan and starts moving towards him next.[15]
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Mahito touching the arm at all is a HORRIBLY BAD IDEA because if you think what he got from Sukuna is bad, he would vanish from existence touching the arm of Shayatan.
 

What series has the best non canon villains/antagonists?

As in characters from movies or filler arcs. Bleach is known to have some really great filler content as one example, with the Zanpakto rebellion arc. DBZ is pretty GOATed and star studded with its movie verse characters...Broly, Turles, Slug, Janemba, Hirudegarn, Cooler... Naruto has also...
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WorldsStrongest said:
People in here hyping up Z era Broly as a character is INSANE to me

The dudes a nothing character whos motivation is literally "Goku cried so Goku must died" for 3 movies.
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WorldsStrongest said:
I wouldnt really include Broly among said names lol
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Guy with a Gojo set, who thinks Sasuke and the Uchiha "carried" Naruto, thinks he can talk shit about Z-Broly. :heston

Yeah we all know his motivation is stupid, it doesn't really fucking matter when he's an absolute savage who blows people's home planets up in front of them, for the hell of it. :maybe
 
Adamant soul said:

What series has the best non canon villains/antagonists?

As in characters from movies or filler arcs. Bleach is known to have some really great filler content as one example, with the Zanpakto rebellion arc. DBZ is pretty GOATed and star studded with its movie verse characters...Broly, Turles, Slug, Janemba, Hirudegarn, Cooler... Naruto has also...
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Guy with a Gojo set, who thinks Sasuke and the Uchiha "carried" Naruto, thinks he can talk shit about Z-Broly. :heston

Yeah we all know his motivation is stupid, it doesn't really fucking matter when he's an absolute savage who blows people's home planets up in front of them, for the hell of it. :maybe
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... is that even his motivation???

i couldve sworn at least in the og japanese it was more clear that broly sensed gokus suppressed power and thus triggered his saiyan bloodlust (and thus thats what the weird scene with him and gokus auras was)

whatever the case z broly is fun regardless lel
 
I always saw it as Broly associating Goku with the trauma he endured as a baby - not able to sleep from his endless crying, being stabbed and left for dead with his father, nearly getting caught in the planet exploding, and wandering the cold depths of space with his dad for who knows how long until they reached a safe planet
 
grillmaster said:
... is that even his motivation???

i couldve sworn at least in the og japanese it was more clear that broly sensed gokus suppressed power and thus triggered his saiyan bloodlust (and thus thats what the weird scene with him and gokus auras was)

whatever the case z broly is fun regardless lel
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Yep, that’s exactly what happened

The baby scene was a metaphor to show that even though Goku is much weaker than Broly, he’s still capable of breaking him
 
ChaosTheory123 said:
Not that, more that the themes of the story are going to get interpreted multiple ways by multiple individuals
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Sure, and I think mine is correct and "yours" (royal) is incorrect. Or, at the very least, that mine is "more correct". There's no objective truth with anything at all, even with "rules" involved. "Walter White was born evil" is not fully correct, but it's more correct than "Walter White is a based chad who just needed to murk his nagging wife". I can determine these things without the author telling me because like, I have a brain and can understand other people.
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And lack of empathy? That sounds mighty cute from the man afraid of the homeless, no?
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This indicates to me you like, don't understand what empathy is definitionally, because there's no correlation between these things lol. Just as there's no correlation between "I feel uncomfortable looking at this shirtless guy yelling at passing cars" and "I still think this guy should be given a relief program". You seem to have a hard time understanding this, mostly because I figure you have a hard time understanding the idea that someone could have principles higher than kneejerk emotional responses ("I think spiders are scary, I also don't want people to randomly step on spiders").
Xhominid The Apex said:
Yeah that's not speaking well for your deductive skills, my guy lol.
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Are you talking about this? This doesn't mention blowing up stars, or this being "crazy". It says they were going to fight on the Sun but that they ran out of time.
 
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I dont even need to say any more now do i
 
Xcano said:
Are you talking about this? This doesn't mention blowing up stars, or this being "crazy". It says they were going to fight on the Sun but that they ran out of time.
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So... that literally proves my point then? And even if it somehow didn't... so what?
The sheer fact that the Director wanted the scope of the battle to go into Deep Space itself explicitly still goes against your point, especially as it was just the runtime that was the issue.
 
grillmaster said:
"the team wanted to have gogeta and broly fight in space but thought it would look too absurd"

"um, ackshually, they wanted to have them fight on the SUN, but ran out of time"

attempted to correct him, actually made xhom's argument stronger

SBers need to be studied
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Exactly.
XCano tried to prove me wrong by simply trying to be exact in his point... to the point he completely went full tunnel vision and didn't realize he proved my point that they COULD have went full on Cosmic but simply chose not to for their own reasons.
Hell, it basically destroys the points that "Saiyans can't breathe in space" and "They can be killed by lava" when they was going to allow a scene like that just as a homage to OG Broly's death in the 2nd Coming.
 

I don't think Hassan can beat Mahito. His NP is useless here, because Mahito doesn't need his heart to live, nor does he need any sort of "core" to remain alive.
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...It was literally stated in the thread itself that Servants can interact with souls...
Cursed Arm doesn't need to use his Noble Phantasm for shit against Mahito when he can just kill him by tearing him apart, Mahito's regeneration has limits especially when his soul takes damage.

And in terms of physicality, Mahito far outmatches Hassan even without Instant Spirit Body of Distorted Killing.
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I like how people say this and never put their money where their mouth is because you know how anyone smart can disprove this? The animated fight of Cursed Arm and Serenity against Tristan. There was PLENTY of times Tristan could have murdered or damn near killed both of them and even they have taken attacks which tore buildings apart while again Tristan was fucking around.

Mahito is not on their level and despite what they love pretending about, Mahito tends to not lock in until it's well too late(Meanwhile Cursed Arm is always on full business) so even if we pretend Mahito is somehow Cursed Arm's superior which he isn't, Mahito will either stupidly touch Shayatan and he instantly dies(as Shayatan is only SEALED within it's arm, it's not mentally gone) or Cursed Arm does what he did against Tristan and Mahito dies instantly.
 
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