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@Gordo Does Heaven reside in the same space as Other World? Some sources say yes, while others are a bit iffy, and I'm not too sure myself.

If this is the case, though, we might have to re-examine the full size of that dimension, because Heaven, according to the guidebook(and Videl in anime filler, but lmao) is universe-sized, yet, correct me if I'm wrong, but folks from like the normal plane of Other World can't even see Heaven above them, I don't think, despite its size, which means the distance between them must be obscene. Could lead to some insane numbers for any Toei character, or Super character who could cross that distance with speed. :mjgrin
 
I always thought it was in Other World
If it does, then a re-examining will have to be done, at the very least, for the Toei continuity, and maybe Super anime too, since that's a sequel to the anime as much as it is the manga, so hilariously, it should scale, even if there are things that actively contradict.(Not that Toriyama would care. He can't remember half the shit he writes these days. :mjlol )

Makes me wonder what number we'd get for the size of Other World, if we were to do that calc, with a universe-sized planet, lit up by artificial suns, not being able to be seen from the regular plane of Other World, as I'll call it. That distance has gotta be crazy. Might also make base Goku and Pikkon flying from Other World down into Hell even more impressive, if the distance between them, is the same distance as Other World's regular plane, and Heaven. Could net some bonkers-ass numbers for a high-end.:wow
 
I know this is a Z/GT thread, but here is an explanation of Black Frieza:

Fucking moving goal posts
Also, I found this on Twitter/X:

I mean, yeah, respective to the Manga this is correct

Only thing that could vaguely prop it up would be confirming a plural "absorption" when discussing nomming the other Kaioshin. Given the panel doesn't have a definitive plural, I'm gonna go with a no on that one.
 
Fucking moving goal posts

I mean, yeah, respective to the Manga this is correct

Only thing that could vaguely prop it up would be confirming a plural "absorption" when discussing nomming the other Kaioshin. Given the panel doesn't have a definitive plural, I'm gonna go with a no on that one.
Thanks for the tip. Here is the anime version of Which Majin Buu is stronger:
 
Thanks for the tip. Here is the anime version of Which Majin Buu is stronger:

Huh, was that fucking Base Vegeta taking out SSJ3 Gotenks? Like, barely stronger than Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan as an SSJ2 himself, and his fucking Base form wings a guy Vegeta had no business fighting?

DBZ filler was some hot ass garbage :hm

If nothing else, looks like a fun Ouroboros to untangle even in the Anime, and I'd nod towards giving Kid Buu the middle finger in deference to Vegito tbh
 
@ChaosTheory123 could you give a rough ballpark estimate for how far away a universe-sized planet lit up by artificial suns would have to be from a surface, in order for someone looking up from said surface, to be unable to see something of that size?
 
SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan clones are explicitly stated to be equal in power to the real thing

Goku and Vegeta could fend them off without their strongest forms

So yeah, they fought in filler
Toei really gave no thought to their filler, huh? Goku and Vegeta (sans Majin bullshit) are static measuring sticks in this arc

This is actually some order of comic book writing nonsense

Really was a preview of what was to come with Super decades later I guess
 
Toei really gave no thought to their filler, huh? Goku and Vegeta (sans Majin bullshit) are static measuring sticks in this arc

This is actually some order of comic book writing nonsense

Really was a preview of what was to come with Super decades later I guess
Goku is just stronger than Gohan and Gotenks in Toei. They went out of their way to make it so as opposed to the manga

Vegeta outperforming them is hilarious though
 
Goku is just stronger than Gohan and Gotenks in Toei. They went out of their way to make it so as opposed to the manga

Vegeta outperforming them is hilarious though
Vegeta doing this is kind of why it’s horse shit though shrugs

Unless you have more than this filler to appeal to?
 
Vegeta doing this is kind of why it’s horse shit though shrugs

Unless you have more than this filler to appeal to?
The movie pamphlet for Movie 13 calls Dragon Fist the strongest technique in history and only Goku is strong enough to accomplish it. It proceeds to state neither Gohan or Goten are at his level
 
The movie pamphlet for Movie 13 calls Dragon Fist the strongest technique in history and only Goku is strong enough to accomplish it. It proceeds to state neither Gohan or Goten are at his level
Got the citation, because I’d be curious to see it :hm

On my phone, not really conducive to that right now
@ChaosTheory123 could you give a rough ballpark estimate for how far away a universe-sized planet lit up by artificial suns would have to be from a surface, in order for someone looking up from said surface, to be unable to see something of that size?
I’m not remotely sure how you’d begin to measure that without making a few too many generous assumptions

Mostly because given sufficient light, it should be visible even being smaller than our own eye’s limits in visual acuity of about (we can perceive differences in size around up to 0.02 degrees out of the full 360 you’d have of a sphere)
 
Got the citation, because I’d be curious to see it :hm
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Speaking of the same movie pamphlets, I’ll bring up the M12 one that states this little gem


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Thanks to Pikkon’s self sacrifice, Goku and Vegeta succeed in fusing into the strongest fusion!

As Hell itself trembles at the Big Bang class explosion caused by their ki, the strongest fused warrior without match rises veiled in a golden aura. His name is Gogeta!
 
Christ that is some awkwardly translated English :maybe

Like, the hell does "trained Goku" mean? Does he play fetch? Can he roll over? :hm

Is there a better raw and not machine translated version of this?
Speaking of the same movie pamphlets, I’ll bring up the M12 one that states this little gem


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ビツグバ ン級

Huh, literally does say Big Bang Class/Grade :hm
 
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