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iirc barely mach 5 based on him reacting to (but not being able to avoid) space ripper stingy eyes, based on water jet speeds anyways.
Iirc the Mach 5 Jonathan number was him outrunning the explosion to save Lisa Lisa and Erina without Hamon after being first cut off.

Anime SRSE gave a Massively Hypersonic number iirc.

Biggest question is does Jonathan scale to Joesph/Part 2 Lightspeed
 
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Their consensus seems to be Tanjiro slightly tougher thanks to Demon scaling on destroying large buildings vs Dio and Jonathan being blown up, Jonathan a shitton faster thanks to Part 2 Scaling and DIO's part 3 body being a weakened Jonathan body but still reacting that fast.


Only people who say Jonathan doesn't win is the person who just completely ignores FTL Jojo, and even then they say its close

Everyone else says Jonathan speedblitzes
 
Iirc the Mach 5 Jonathan number was him outrunning the explosion to save Lisa Lisa and Erina without Hamon after being first cut off.

Anime SRSE gave a Massively Hypersonic number iirc.

Biggest question is does Jonathan scale to Joesph/Part 2 Lightspeed
yeah anime srse was generally way more impressive as it split clouds and shit

I can't really think of a sound reason to scale him to Joseph tbh. the enemies post training Joseph was fighting were just flat out superior to Dio


Tarkus cliff scaling should be>most of Demon Slayer feats thougj
 
yeah anime srse was generally way more impressive as it split clouds and shit

I can't really think of a sound reason to scale him to Joseph tbh. the enemies post training Joseph was fighting were just flat out superior to Dio


Tarkus cliff scaling should be>most of Demon Slayer feats thougj
Seems they are scaling Peak Part 1 Jonathan to weakened (Pre Joesph Blood) Part 3 Dio Body and reactions, on account og Jonathan fighting Dio Muiltple times, DIO expliclty being weakened in his body, and it just straight up being Jonathan's body which still has some unconscious control from Jonathan in it (Also just double dipping Joesph scaling there technically but eh). I can see it, since it is Jonathan's body and it is still expliclty fighting back DIOs control at that point.
 
Seems they are scaling Peak Part 1 Jonathan to weakened (Pre Joesph Blood) Part 3 Dio Body and reactions, on account og Jonathan fighting Dio Muiltple times, DIO expliclty being weakened in his body, and it just straight up being Jonathan's body which still has some unconscious control from Jonathan in it (Also just double dipping Joesph scaling there technically but eh). I can see it, since it is Jonathan's body and it is still expliclty fighting back DIOs control at that point.
that only makes sense for strength to me since stand users just naturally have ridiculous reaction speeds see Rohan avoiding Crazy Diamond at point blank. Shaky reasoning to justify his speed imo, using Joseph at least makes a bit more sense even if I don't agree with it


either way Jonathan is massively faster than anyone on the DS side
 
that only makes sense for strength to me since stand users just naturally have ridiculous reaction speeds see Rohan avoiding Crazy Diamond at point blank. Shaky reasoning to justify his speed imo
Well I mean


Jonathan does technically have a stand, Hermit Purple 2 (The Passion really is a better name, but not canon) just no reaction feats with it (Also they could go full Monke, use Canon Composite Jonathan and bring in Johnny, which is completely Troll as fuck and im 100% for). Except somehow unlocking other peoples stands with it. So coin flip? Also I'd say post Zeppeli boost Jonathan would be comparable but still below Post training Joesph. Zeppeli boost pretty important to differentiate between Jonathan's post training and peak strengths imo


Also Demon Slayer is apparently 4 Digit Mach, so yeah seeing if Jonathan actually has a claim to the FTL feats is important for this match up or else just Part 1 Manga speed isn't enough.
 
I mean even if they don't scale Jonathan's speed to Joseph they still used anime feats to put Part 1 Dio at city level

Chances are they'll probably scale him off that
 
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