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Death Battle Discussion

Could give a damn about any DB outcome. I’ll voice my disagreement but Misaka could have lost to Killua in that Death Battle and I still would have liked it if the fight was good.

My complaint here was this one was a bit underwhelming.
 
Equalization? What :heston
Even assuming that the Force wasn't omnipresent, one of their rules, just to make sure matches can be interesting and fair, is to equalize energy sources, if possible. For example, to use Naruto itself, since it was in the latest episode, you assume that characters not even from the Naruto-verse have Chakra pathways, so that genjutsu can even work on them, to begin with.

Going by this, the Force absolutely should've worked in the kamui dimension either way. The idiots literally snookered themselves, without even realizing it. :heston
 
You can actually make an argument that’s just the current method of casting Genjutsu since everyone possesses chakra in Naruto throughout the series

Kaguya put all the world into Infinite Tsukuyomi to end wars back when she was the sole possessor of chakra and everyone else presumably just had whatever normal life force they ran on
 
Funniest part of all this is, while there was a bit of wonky scaling here and there, for the most part, recent Death Battle had actually been solid, in terms of their overall scaling and shit.

I don't know what the hell happened with this episode, other than a Nardo wanker somehow managing to worm their way into the team, and somehow sabotage Vader's research enough for this hilariously bad result to have occurred. :jordangif
 
Even assuming that the Force wasn't omnipresent, one of their rules, just to make sure matches can be interesting and fair, is to equalize energy sources, if possible. For example, to use Naruto itself, since it was in the latest episode, you assume that characters not even from the Naruto-verse have Chakra pathways, so that genjutsu can even work on them, to begin with.

Going by this, the Force absolutely should've worked in the kamui dimension either way. The idiots literally snookered themselves, without even realizing it. :heston

EQUALIZED STATS

EQUALIZED FUCKING STATS

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EQUALIZED STATS

EQUALIZED FUCKING STATS

:dead
No. Not really. They ain't out here giving characters the same strength, speed and other abilities, or anything like that. It's literally just to allow for verse-specific powers reliant on their energy systems to work(or have the ability to) on characters outside their verse, that's all.
 
also, did they scale Juubito to Sage of Six Paths Naruto dodging Madara’s Lightfang?

Because Naruto had Sagemode and was SEVERELY stronger than Juubito at that moment.

And so was Madara.

Like Base Naruto was kicking Jubidara’s ass up until Juubidara absorbed the Shinju Tree.

The Light Fang was something a MUCH stronger Naruto could do with only the Sage Mode precog
 
also, did they scale Juubito to Sage of Six Paths Naruto dodging Madara’s Lightfang?

Because Naruto had Sagemode and was SEVERELY stronger than Juubito at that moment.

And so was Madara.

Like Base Naruto was kicking Jubidara’s ass up until Juubidara absorbed the Shinju Tree.

The Light Fang was something a MUCH stronger Naruto could do with only the Sage Mode precog
Same God Tree Obito has too initially as the Juubi Jinchuriki. I don’t disagree on Juubidara > Juubito but it shouldn’t be all that huge of a gap that you can’t compare them since both are powered by the same 10 Tails entity. Main thing that made Juubidara so dangerous is that he knew a lot more techniques with his Juubi and Rinnegan powers than Obito did, not so much difference in power. Plus Juubito wasn’t really beaten so much as Talk No Jutsu’d in the end anyway.

You also got DB going by Raikage being light speed according to databooks who just KCM1 Naruto reacted to.

I found Light speed Raikage questionable for the longest time but it is reinforced by now two instances in post-Shippuden novels of characters reacting to light, as in literally described as photon beams with little ambiguity of them as anything else. Adult Base Naruto and Orochimaru whose pretty much fodder to nearly any relevant character by now.

So with that in mind, I’m willing to give a Kage-level character like A whose main selling point was being the fastest Shinobi alive, falling short only to literal Teleporters like Minato and KCM1 Naruto the benefit of the doubt. Especially if we allow light speed Samurai Jack or JoJo characters from pulling the exact same thing.

No clue where to find the scans of either of those feats though.
 
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Same God Tree Obito has too initially as the Juubi Jinchuriki. I don’t disagree on Juubidara being > Juubito but it shouldn’t be all that huge of a gap that you can’t compare them. Main thing that made Juubidara so dangerous is that he knew a lot more techniques with his Juubi and Rinnegan powers than Obito did, not so much difference in power. Plus Juubito wasn’t really beaten so much as Talk No Jutsu’d in the end.

You also got DB going by Raikage being light speed according to databooks who just KCM1 Naruto reacted to.

I found Light speed A questionable for the longest time but it is reinforced by now from two instances in post-Shippuden novels of characters reacting to light, as in literally described as photon beams with little ambiguity of it as any else. Adult Naruto and Orochimaru whose pretty much fodder to nearly any relevant character by now.

So I’m willing to give a Kage-level character whose main selling point was being the fastest Shinobi alive minus Teleporters and KCM1 Naruto the benefit of the doubts. Especially if we allow light speed Samurai Jack from doing the same feat.

No clue where to find the scans of either of those feats though.
And reviewing the DB, they show a quote from Shikamaru's novel where they say that Obito as Jinchuriki of the Juubi reached a level close to that of the Sage.

IDK if that is canon but they took composite (anime, mangas, videogames but not crossovers) anyway.
 
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Gaara losing to Toph will never not be hilarious.

And as much as I love Hiei over Sasuke. They were reaching way too hard between the insane YYH calcs, and Hiei’s Jagan Eye and fire demon physiology meaning he’s outright immune to mental attacks and fire both from someone at Sasuke’s level. All to give Hiei the win.

Sasuke should have honestly sweeped that fight.
 
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