Death Battle Discussion

[CrossTheHorizon]

I agree with this, but it wasn't the consensus in the last GER match that I saw back on NF. Pretty sure people were literally saying that GER could blitz the Reverse Flash.

I mean, GER can't do that, but it has nothing to do with speed. RF moves around via time travel and dimensional shifting at a higher level than GER does. That's not even a speed contest at that point, it's a hax-off.

GER would actually beat anyone with "just" infinite speed, because GER's "speed" is [(time enemy attacks) - 1]. It just goes "le fuck you" and inserts its own actions before the enemies arbitrarily because acausality is a bitch like that.

Thrawn is like six levels of bullshit past that and I think at this point is a living time stream shaped like a human, so even GER can't do shit.

No. Much like the infinite numbers thing, this sounds sensible but isn't actually supported by anything in the material world.

All that going an infinite distance in a finite time means is that you can travel an infinite distance in a finite time. It is in no way related to your ability to cross finite distances. It has to be treated as a unique skill (conceptual hax?) because the variables involved aren't compatible with the velocity formula. You can't plug ∞ into the velocity formula. Not as time, not as distance.

It's fiction. It doesn't actually have to correspond to reality one to one.

If an author goes "He crossed an infinite distance in a day", then we shrug, give him infinite speed, and then that character wins or ties any contest based on pure speed.

People like the Flash (who outran instant teleportation and achieved a form of omnipresence at one point iirc) are an even higher level of bullshit that specifically does involve more than just physically moving from point A to point B infinitely fast, i.e. a form of time travel or dimensional movement.

I'm always down for arbitration, as long as we are all on the same page that that's what is happening.

Always insert "for the purposes of this hobby" in front of whatever stat a character is given on the OBD. It very rarely corresponds to authorial intent or in-story portrayal, its just the easiest way to quantify someone.

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

So. Who has actually crossed an infinite distance in a finite time?

Also. How does that even work?!

How does a space's infinite status not invalidate itself the second someone leaves? The traveler reached another space beyond its infiniteness. That's....not how infinite works.


Fuck. I keep trying to give this concept the benefit of the doubt on some level. By the idea of quantifying the infinite is just...bizarre.

I mean, Flash did it, but it was via Speed Force bullshit.

I don't actually know anyone off the top of my head who we have at infinite speed without it being via hax or something similar. I could probably find you a Light Novel character somewhere who has that ability, but it would involve exposing the OBD to another Light Novel character and that tends to elicit screams of pain and rage

 

[xenos5]

I mean, Flash did it, but it was via Speed Force bullshit.

I don't actually know anyone off the top of my head who we have at infinite speed without it being via hax or something similar. I could probably find you a Light Novel character somewhere who has that ability, but it would involve exposing the OBD to another Light Novel character and that tends to elicit screams of pain and rage

Don’t know if instantaneous = infinite in this context but iirc we have Castlevania characters at instant speed for being able to dodge attacks from Death that cut distance itself or something like that.

 

[Maddie]

Vampire Hunter D with Akashic Records displaced an infinite distance in an instant

Also Saint Seiya gets pretty blatant what infinity means

 

[Solar Sailor]

Instantaneous speed is basically the same as saying speed is irrelevant.

nigh-omnipresence is a difficult thing to measure,

but its somewhat easy to distinguish

 

[CrossTheHorizon]

Don’t know if instantaneous = infinite in this context but iirc we have Castlevania characters at instant speed for being able to dodge attacks from Death that cut distance itself or something like that.

Instant is a little different since there could theoretically be a limit on how far they could travel or how fast they can activate it in succession

Like Goku's IT is literally instant but he has to stop and think "I want to go here" so people faster than his normal speed can still blitz him.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

 

[Masterblack06]

They really are gonna have Storm murder this child



Granted Storms an mutant so I'm not surprised shed be fine with murdering children

 

[Claudio Swiss]

 

[Claudio Swiss]

 

[Solar Sailor]

Comments actually arguing Storm is a herald tier character lmao

Korra is screwed, but she’s not that screwed. People like to overrate comic characters these days because of DBZ power scailing

 

[Solar Sailor]

Not that I care about Korra

but she has enough DC to kill Storm pretty comfortably. Storm is a giant glass canon, like Korra, and both can get killed by each other if given the chance.

problem is Storm is faster and has better AoE/DC

 

[Claudio Swiss]

but she’s not that screwed.

she is that screwed she's literally fighting somebody that does her shit but far better
this is literally Miles vs Static but Female Edition

 

[Solar Sailor]

she is that screwed she's literally fighting somebody that does her shit but far better
this is literally Miles vs Static but Female Edition

Dude.

Storm is not herald level

Korra is still getting absolutely stomped.

these two facts can co-exist without contradiction

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Storm is not herald level

point to me to where I said she's herald m8
I said simply is that bad of a stomp which it is
nothing else

 

[Solar Sailor]

point to me to where I said she's herald m8
I said simply is that bad of a stomp which it is
nothing else

When you replied “She is that screwed” Claudio

Because I was specifically referring to people referring it as “‘Herald’ Storm” vs Korra

 

[Claudio Swiss]

When you replied “She is that screwed” Claudio

Because I was specifically referring to people talking about “Herald” Storm vs Korra

doesn't translate to me saying she's herald m8

 

[Solar Sailor]

doesn't translate to me saying she's herald m8

yes it fucking does Claudio.

I was talking about the fact that that she wasn’t getting stomped by a “herald”. That’s what “she’s not that screwed” meant in the first place.

So yes, it DOES mean you’re implying she’s a herald. Even if you didn’t actually mean to, because you ignored what I was talking about.

Context.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

yes it fucking does Claudio.

I was talking about the fact that that she wasn’t getting stomped by a “herald”. That’s what “she’s not that screwed” meant in the first place.

So yes, it DOES mean you’re implying she’s a herald. Even if you didn’t actually mean to, because you ignored what I was talking about.

Context.

no it doesn't
that's on you for misinterpreting my comment
cause once again regardless of Herald Storm legit or not fuck i care Korra is that fucking screwed cause like i said Storm does what Korra do but on a whole new scale
which is what my comment means
i know what ur saying in context

 

[Dead Lock]

I think Silver Centurion Tony is the best looking herald.