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Yeah if they give Megatron the benefit of the doubt with Infinite Multiverse+ scaling then
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on one hand most of the info looks fine, but I fully disagree with highballing Golden Megatron to multiverse+ (and TF’s multiverse is bigger than that anyways although I’m not entirely sure how they grade those things), I could get into why but it’ll take a bit. Gold Primus Convoy (evolved Star Convoy) was definitely weaker than GMegs was and won by using the last of his Golden Power to cancel out Megatron’s, it wasn’t some kind of one-shotting like they phrased it. Glad they noted both mftl speed feats, I haven’t seen the Side Burn infinite speed bio though (or if I have I forgot about it). Galvatron being immune to time bfr was new to me, but Galvatron feats probably won’t be used here.


I want to look into more of the Galvatron II stuff scalingwise, since the links there sounded a little odd with what I know of JG1 scaling, especially since there’s times where Star Convoy’s Zodiac/Star Power is depleted so idk if scaling universe+ to all those characters is exactly that simple. Definitely something to look into though


Minor nitpick but using WFC weapons but not not JG1 is strange because WFC is not a G1 continuity at all, it just looks like one. Doesn’t impact the scaling at all.


Cosmology assessment was mostly sound but there was significantly more they could have gone into, probably my thread was not referenced :wow
 
Frieza’s paralysis with Imprisonment ball didn’t seem to factor into either verdict. I was a bit surprised by that since they didn’t note Megatron having any resistance to paralysis in his resistances section.

I get it’s not an instant OHKO type of hax. But it can definitely lead to a victory if used properly I would say, by essentially making the opponent defenseless and unable to fight back against whatever attacks come next.
 
on one hand most of the info looks fine, but I fully disagree with highballing Golden Megatron to multiverse+ (and TF’s multiverse is bigger than that anyways although I’m not entirely sure how they grade those things), I could get into why but it’ll take a bit. Gold Primus Convoy (evolved Star Convoy) was definitely weaker than GMegs was and won by using the last of his Golden Power to cancel out Megatron’s, it wasn’t some kind of one-shotting like they phrased it. Glad they noted both mftl speed feats, I haven’t seen the Side Burn infinite speed bio though (or if I have I forgot about it). Galvatron being immune to time bfr was new to me, but Galvatron feats probably won’t be used here.


I want to look into more of the Galvatron II stuff scalingwise, since the links there sounded a little odd with what I know of JG1 scaling, especially since there’s times where Star Convoy’s Zodiac/Star Power is depleted so idk if scaling universe+ to all those characters is exactly that simple. Definitely something to look into though


Minor nitpick but using WFC weapons but not not JG1 is strange because WFC is not a G1 continuity at all, it just looks like one. Doesn’t impact the scaling at all.


Cosmology assessment was mostly sound but there was significantly more they could have gone into, probably my thread was not referenced :wow

from what I can tell they took the statement here to mean he was going to fuse all of an infinite multiverse together as opposed to whatever you mentioned before
 
from what I can tell they took the statement here to mean he was going to fuse all of an infinite multiverse together as opposed to whatever you mentioned before
yeah thats the thing the entire plotline there is about everyone (Primus, Primacron, Megatron etc) trying to create the Japanese G1 universe from the Precusor World, a multiverse made up of seven universes. You then get 14x because Megatron was going to do this by using two Silver Matrixes juked with Star Power+his own Golden Power he jacked from Starscream

so in context, Megatron is near certainly talking about that. The only way you could reliably scale him higher is bc we know shit like “every universe has infinite pasts and futures” etc. but I didn’t see that used as reasoning, just that he would merge the entire multiverse when that isn’t what that story is about (Megatron does say he will merge the past and future though so you could use that to support highballing him but it’s still ridiculous to me) He’s still multiversal just not to the range they’re saying, and to be fair in Transformers nobody else is either with the sole exceptions being Primus, Unicron, and Prima with the star saber etc.
 
that was a thing Furman randomly added in Regeneration One and just adds to the general clusterfuck of the cosmology


I’m still not over misreading AvP saying universes have a greater than infinite number of branch universes

like why did he say that??????
 
that was a thing Furman randomly added in Regeneration One and just adds to the general clusterfuck of the cosmology


I’m still not over misreading AvP saying universes have a greater than infinite number of branch universes

like why did he say that??????
How legit you buy the speed stuff for megatron
 
How legit you buy the speed stuff for megatron
I think it’s fine to scale those to anyone at the cosmic tier, in this case specifically because there’s an avatar of Primus that Megatron was fighting and Primus is obv not gonna be slower or less mentally capable than a regular Transformer is. The speed feats are ridiculous but…I mean Transformers in general is a crazy series, and lots of series drop stupid high feats all the time with no issue. The only one I’m not sure on is the Side Burn Infinite Speed profile because 1. definitely not reflected in RiD (which I believe is the side burn they mean) 2. Honestly could just be a case of flowery language, I would want to read it for myself.
 
@Claudio Swiss Is Twin Peaks a good show? Would recommend? 👍👎?
it isn't an explicit power show and BOB actually has a pretty limited skillset but anyways

Season 1 is good but super human focused with very obscure references to mysticism

Season 2 goes deeper into mysticism but then kinda goes to shit midway through because Lynch leaves out of spite over interference in his show from ABC. Frost introduced the cosmic stuff a bit and Lynch caps it off with an amazing finale

Movie is pure Lynch and is as poignant and cathartic and harrowing as it is unwatchable

Season 3 varies from the most stiltedly acted and produced Asylum tier schlock possible and that's by design because it's all a false reality, to beautifully horrific to an undescribable degree
 
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