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“Ballot Banter #32 recap

This one features Sam, Liam, Erin, and John.

Denji VS Ash Williams (Chainsaw Man VS The Evil Dead)- Liam loves both series and thinks this MU is great. Denji VS Yuji is a bigger fan request, and more likely as a result, but Denji VS Ash has “spunk” and he’d be “none too displeased to do this one”. Liam says that Denji probably stomps unless Ash has something crazy he doesn’t know about, to which Sam responds that in the more recent Evil Dead movies, we’ve seen characters similar to Ash with magic powers, which could potentially be applied to him.

Palpatine VS Xehanort (Star Wars VS Kingdom Hearts)- They love the DBX episode. Everyone thinks the matchup is cool, which makes up for the fact that it’s, as Liam puts it, “just Yoda VS Mickey again”. Liam would like the opportunity to discuss Kingdom Hearts lore more in depth, beyond the joke of it being confusing.

Summer Yoshizawa VS Hibiki Tachibana (Persona VS Symphogear)- Nobody knows what Symphogear is. That said, Sam does think the MU’s music theming would provide potential for a unique episode.

Springtrap VS Dr. Shaw (Five Nights at Freddy’s VS SCP Foundation)- There’s a lot of discussion about the characters’ lore, not a ton about the actual matchup. Sam jokes that they should write their own SCP entries to make their jobs easier.

Goro Majima VS Undyne (Yakuza VS Undertale)- Erin and Liam agree that the two have similar personalities. Sam thinks there are other characters that make more sense as opponents for Majima. He also thinks that a Yakuza/Undertale crossover is an insane idea. Erin says the MU’s “Definitely a fun one”.

Goku VS Jin Mori (Dragon Ball VS The God of High School)- Nobody knows anything about God of High School, but Liam is at least aware that Mori, like Goku, is inspired by Sun Wukong, and likes his design.

The Mandalorian VS Courier Six (Star Wars VS Fallout)- They think it’s cool. Liam wants to do a Fallout episode.

(They skip past Danny Phantom VS Static, seemingly just because they forgot).

Spike VS King (My Little Pony VS The Owl House)- John says Spike is actually pretty powerful (country-level, according to him). That’s about all they say that’s on-topic.

Black Hat VS The Warden (Villainous VS Superjail)- Another one where they don’t say anything about the MU. They just talk about Superjail.

Magneto VS Accelerator (Marvel VS A Certain Magical Index)- Liam has heard the MU is popular and that Accelerator is actually powerful enough to stand up to Magneto. Sam says it’s great that there’s a character that can give Magneto a debatable fight.

Scar VS Kurapika (Fullmetal Alchemist VS Hunter x Hunter)- Liam says it’s “hype”, and that both characters are cool.

Donald Duck VS Daffy Duck (Disney VS Warner Brothers)- The DBX was well-received. They think it’s a good matchup. Sam thinks Donald has more stuff under his belt than Daffy simply due to being more popular, but also notes that old Looney Tunes shorts had a lot of fourth wall jokes, so Daffy could still win through hax. Liam says Daffy’s terrible luck could be either a point in favor of him (since it gives him a lot of durability feats) or a point against him (since he has such a terrible track record in fights). Liam jokes that they should do Donald Duck VS Winnie the Pooh (“the connection is they don’t have pants”).

V VS Carnage (Murder Drones VS Marvel)- They don’t know what Murder Drones is. The connections make sense, though, and Erin can see the appeal after she Googles Murder Drones.

Professor Chaos VS Young Gru (South Park VS Despicable Me)- Liam likes the idea of using Professor Chaos, though he says that, if they were to use one South Park character, it should be Cartman. Sam doesn’t vibe with South Park in DB for various reasons.

Buggy the Clown VS Arataki Itto (One Piece VS Genshin Impact)- Sam has played Genshin Impact, but not since before Itto was added. Sam assumes that a One Piece character would beat a Genshin Impact character more times than not, but it’s then mentioned that Buggy doesn’t really have any particularly impressive feats or scaling. Sam says it might be really good, but also thinks it’s hard to do an episode with characters whose whole shtick is failing.

Darkhawk VS Blue Beetle (Marvel VS DC)- “We’re some pretty deep comic nerds here, and I could not tell you shit about Darkhawk”. Liam and John think Starhawk’s design is cool, at least, and Sam says the MU seems cool.

Samus Aran VS Mega Man X (Metroid VS Mega Man)- They simply say it’s fun and good, and that X probably wins.

John Rambo VS Captain Price (Rambo VS Call of Duty)- Sam says it’s weird to see a Call of Duty character in the mix. They explain to Liam who Price is for a while. Sam says he can see what the person who submitted the matchup was going for, and that Rambo probably has far more insane stuff than Price.

Kars VS Meruem (JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure VS Hunter x Hunter)- Liam says he’s down for this, but thinks Kars is insanely boring. Sam says they’re always down for a JoJo fight.

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Cure Peace VS Zenitsu (Pretty Cure VS Demon Slayer).”
 
I think they've been pretty good with all the more cartoony episodes. SpongeBob, The Mask, Popeye, Billcord, even the DBX with Donald Duck vs Daffy Duck. Wile E. Vs Tom would be great, but I think Tom wins. Wile E. is mostly known for his traps and explosives but Tom has a bit of everything because he's been in over 100 episodes from the 40s to today and in over a dozen movies, they put Tom and Jerry everywhere. There's even an Asia exclusive Tom and J
This I think depends on how they would look at powerscaling from a gag/toonforce perspective because some LT characters have done things like straight up erase and redrawn the entire world their in and everyone in it and survived being exploded into constellations. I don't recall Tom surviving anything on that scale but I could be wrong.
 
@OtherGalaxy Curious, does Megatron have a chance of winning if they go with high end G1/IDW feats(With possible calc stacking)? Because Frieza will most definitely be put at 265,800x Universe Level and at least 358 Quintillion-143 Sextillion FTL
IDW isn't (that) strong, common misconception, he is absolutely not universe level at all. G1 it's really gonna depend on how they take Golden Megatron and the infinite universe stuff. You could highball GMeg with his 'merge the multiverse' statement to mean the whole thing, which is way beyond 265k x, but I don't personally think that makes any sense at all given the context of the story. How DB sees that is another thing entirely though.
 
IDW isn't (that) strong, common misconception, he is absolutely not universe level at all. G1 it's really gonna depend on how they take Golden Megatron and the infinite universe stuff. You could highball GMeg with his 'merge the multiverse' statement to mean the whole thing, which is way beyond 265k x, but I don't personally think that makes any sense at all given the context of the story. How DB sees that is another thing entirely though.
Yeah I know but DB makes a habit of intentionally high ball their characters to give them the benefit of the doubt (Rocket Raccoon's weapons getting scaling from Thanos) or to show the difference in power the winner would still have if they starting popping in buffs (Naruto/Ichigo and Beerus/Galaxia for example)
 
This I think depends on how they would look at powerscaling from a gag/toonforce perspective because some LT characters have done things like straight up erase and redrawn the entire world their in and everyone in it and survived being exploded into constellations. I don't recall Tom surviving anything on that scale but I could be wrong.
How does coyote stand up among the heavy hitters of LT
Found this on Reddit

“Ballot Banter #32 recap

This one features Sam, Liam, Erin, and John.

Denji VS Ash Williams (Chainsaw Man VS The Evil Dead)- Liam loves both series and thinks this MU is great. Denji VS Yuji is a bigger fan request, and more likely as a result, but Denji VS Ash has “spunk” and he’d be “none too displeased to do this one”. Liam says that Denji probably stomps unless Ash has something crazy he doesn’t know about, to which Sam responds that in the more recent Evil Dead movies, we’ve seen characters similar to Ash with magic powers, which could potentially be applied to him.

Palpatine VS Xehanort (Star Wars VS Kingdom Hearts)- They love the DBX episode. Everyone thinks the matchup is cool, which makes up for the fact that it’s, as Liam puts it, “just Yoda VS Mickey again”. Liam would like the opportunity to discuss Kingdom Hearts lore more in depth, beyond the joke of it being confusing.

Summer Yoshizawa VS Hibiki Tachibana (Persona VS Symphogear)- Nobody knows what Symphogear is. That said, Sam does think the MU’s music theming would provide potential for a unique episode.

Springtrap VS Dr. Shaw (Five Nights at Freddy’s VS SCP Foundation)- There’s a lot of discussion about the characters’ lore, not a ton about the actual matchup. Sam jokes that they should write their own SCP entries to make their jobs easier.

Goro Majima VS Undyne (Yakuza VS Undertale)- Erin and Liam agree that the two have similar personalities. Sam thinks there are other characters that make more sense as opponents for Majima. He also thinks that a Yakuza/Undertale crossover is an insane idea. Erin says the MU’s “Definitely a fun one”.

Goku VS Jin Mori (Dragon Ball VS The God of High School)- Nobody knows anything about God of High School, but Liam is at least aware that Mori, like Goku, is inspired by Sun Wukong, and likes his design.

The Mandalorian VS Courier Six (Star Wars VS Fallout)- They think it’s cool. Liam wants to do a Fallout episode.

(They skip past Danny Phantom VS Static, seemingly just because they forgot).

Spike VS King (My Little Pony VS The Owl House)- John says Spike is actually pretty powerful (country-level, according to him). That’s about all they say that’s on-topic.

Black Hat VS The Warden (Villainous VS Superjail)- Another one where they don’t say anything about the MU. They just talk about Superjail.

Magneto VS Accelerator (Marvel VS A Certain Magical Index)- Liam has heard the MU is popular and that Accelerator is actually powerful enough to stand up to Magneto. Sam says it’s great that there’s a character that can give Magneto a debatable fight.

Scar VS Kurapika (Fullmetal Alchemist VS Hunter x Hunter)- Liam says it’s “hype”, and that both characters are cool.

Donald Duck VS Daffy Duck (Disney VS Warner Brothers)- The DBX was well-received. They think it’s a good matchup. Sam thinks Donald has more stuff under his belt than Daffy simply due to being more popular, but also notes that old Looney Tunes shorts had a lot of fourth wall jokes, so Daffy could still win through hax. Liam says Daffy’s terrible luck could be either a point in favor of him (since it gives him a lot of durability feats) or a point against him (since he has such a terrible track record in fights). Liam jokes that they should do Donald Duck VS Winnie the Pooh (“the connection is they don’t have pants”).

V VS Carnage (Murder Drones VS Marvel)- They don’t know what Murder Drones is. The connections make sense, though, and Erin can see the appeal after she Googles Murder Drones.

Professor Chaos VS Young Gru (South Park VS Despicable Me)- Liam likes the idea of using Professor Chaos, though he says that, if they were to use one South Park character, it should be Cartman. Sam doesn’t vibe with South Park in DB for various reasons.

Buggy the Clown VS Arataki Itto (One Piece VS Genshin Impact)- Sam has played Genshin Impact, but not since before Itto was added. Sam assumes that a One Piece character would beat a Genshin Impact character more times than not, but it’s then mentioned that Buggy doesn’t really have any particularly impressive feats or scaling. Sam says it might be really good, but also thinks it’s hard to do an episode with characters whose whole shtick is failing.

Darkhawk VS Blue Beetle (Marvel VS DC)- “We’re some pretty deep comic nerds here, and I could not tell you shit about Darkhawk”. Liam and John think Starhawk’s design is cool, at least, and Sam says the MU seems cool.

Samus Aran VS Mega Man X (Metroid VS Mega Man)- They simply say it’s fun and good, and that X probably wins.

John Rambo VS Captain Price (Rambo VS Call of Duty)- Sam says it’s weird to see a Call of Duty character in the mix. They explain to Liam who Price is for a while. Sam says he can see what the person who submitted the matchup was going for, and that Rambo probably has far more insane stuff than Price.

Kars VS Meruem (JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure VS Hunter x Hunter)- Liam says he’s down for this, but thinks Kars is insanely boring. Sam says they’re always down for a JoJo fight.

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Cure Peace VS Zenitsu (Pretty Cure VS Demon Slayer).”
Interesting mu
 
Yeah I know but DB makes a habit of intentionally high ball their characters to give them the benefit of the doubt (Rocket Raccoon's weapons getting scaling from Thanos) or to show the difference in power the winner would still have if they starting popping in buffs (Naruto/Ichigo and Beerus/Galaxia for example)
if they really highball it to the max then there's no way Megatron could lose since even the most conservative estimates of the TF multiverse's size dwarf anything in DBS. I just don't agree with scaling GMeg to that hence how I got to the 14~ universes tier for him. But that all relies on taking his statement that he could merge the entire multiverse at face value (which again, I don't think that's what he actually meant).

IDW has nothing to add on that front really.
 
Idw with peak wank only tops out at Uni-Low Multi at best

Megatron is riding and dying on him getting JPG1 and depends if they buy That version affecting the entire TF multiverse
 
How does coyote stand up among the heavy hitters of LT
I mean physically he should be above Bugs since the whole gag in the Bugs Bunny cartoons is that people who would normally be imposing basically are no threat to him because he's just that suave and cunning. Wil E's whole schtick is being a genius inventor like Marvin the Martian so he should be above characters that are naturally dumb like Elmer Fudd, Sylvester and Yosemite Sam. You could probably scale him from Daffy too. But that's kind've the thing, it's difficult to really determine if or how powerscaling can be utilized with LT characters since unlike most other fictional verses they weren't made with power tiers in mind and their universe functions in a way that doesn't follow any laws of physics since every feat and thing happens, happens to accentuate the punchline of a joke regardless on the consistency of their feats.

In terms of of direct feats though, He did survive this


I don't think Tom's ever survived anything that crazy even with toonforce slapstick. Or invented anything of that scale
 
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Idw with peak wank only tops out at Uni-Low Multi at best

Megatron is riding and dying on him getting JPG1 and depends if they buy That version affecting the entire TF multiverse
it's more like Peak Fraud :skully that shit is straight up not real if your name isn't Shockwave or D-Void

it's the TF equivalent of the Getbackers Deception
 
Magneto VS Accelerator (Marvel VS A Certain Magical Index)- Liam has heard the MU is popular and that Accelerator is actually powerful enough to stand up to Magneto. Sam says it’s great that there’s a character that can give Magneto a debatable fight.
:yousmart
 
I know but I can see some leeway to argue him there to make it close enough
I’ve read the whole run and there really isn’t, the feats they try to apply are basically made up. There’s only one that’s even debatable but it kinda shoots itself in the foot bc the guy (Nova) allegedly couldn’t use his “universal power” to kill three completely normal people


Love the hell out of those comics but it’s debatable if they even scratch the top 5 of strong TF series
 
I’ve read the whole run and there really isn’t, the feats they try to apply are basically made up. There’s only one that’s even debatable but it kinda shoots itself in the foot bc the guy (Nova) allegedly couldn’t use his “universal power” to kill three completely normal people


Love the hell out of those comics but it’s debatable if they even scratch the top 5 of strong TF series
You should be telling us crazy megatron facts
 
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When was this
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tom scioli's transformers vs gi joe (best comic ever btw)

I swear he did it somewhere else but I don't remember when
 
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