According to DB, Genjutsu is better than the Force
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Goku lost twice to Supes.That first statement is false, but the second one might be true. Let's check.
Gaara lost to Toph.
Jiraiya lost to Roshi.
Kakashi lost to Kenobi.
Sasuke lost to Hiei.
Rock Lee lost to Sanji.
Meanwhile:
Naruto beat Ichigo.
Obito beat Vader.(Lol. Lmao even.)
Might Guy beat All Might.
5 losses to 3 wins, unless I'm missing a battle or two. Not only do they have less W's than DB, I think that ratio is just as bad, if not worse.
Reverse Flash beat Black.
Trunks lost to Silver(Archie).
Buu lost to Kirby.
Vegeta lost to Thor.
Meanwhile:
18 beat Captain Marvel.
Broly beat Hulk.
Roshi beat Jiraiya.
Vegeta beat Shadow.
Mister Satan beat Dan Hibiki.
Can't count Vegito beating Gogeta, as they're part of the same verse.
Beerus beat Galaxia.
Unless I missed a battle, that's 6 wins to 6 losses, an even split. DB's W/L ratio is definitely better than Naruto's.
Look I get the arguments for Obito beating Vader but the argument they used to justify does not hit imo
Oh yeah I forgot 18 vs CM and Satan vs Hibiki were even thingsGoku lost twice to Supes.
Reverse Flash beat Black.
Trunks lost to Silver(Archie).
Buu lost to Kirby.
Vegeta lost to Thor.
Meanwhile:
18 beat Captain Marvel.
Broly beat Hulk.
Roshi beat Jiraiya.
Vegeta beat Shadow.
Mister Satan beat Dan Hibiki.
Can't count Vegito beating Gogeta, as they're part of the same verse.
Beerus beat Galaxia.
Unless I missed a battle, that's 6 wins to 6 losses, an even split. DB's W/L ratio is definitely better than Naruto's.
Can't say I blame you for forgetting 18 vs CM was a thing, as it was a very forgettable episode, outside DB giving 18 a power she's never had in canon.
Satan vs Hibiki though? That's probably one of the funniest DBs they've ever done, and you forgot about it? Now that's just shameful.
So the Force doesn’t work in Kamui, but Kamui is generated by Obito’s Sharingan that uses Chakra and anyone can still use Chakra inside Kamui...
Death Battle when they saw anything that should give Vader the edge to win, including one of their own rules:
Bleach legit has no Ws
One piece is 2-1
Naruto is 4-5
Bleach is 0-2
And they lose with Mace vs Byakuya so that shit finna be 0-3
One piece is 2-1
Naruto is 4-5
Bleach is 0-2
And they lose with Mace vs Byakuya so that shit finna be 0-3
For me I'm not salty because I'm a fan of the character who lost, but because I hate the character who won.
Why did they have to deny me the pleasure of watching Obito fall, I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch an animation where this incel kills Darth Vader
Warlordgab
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Not if they use the same standards for Vader Vs. Obito
SupremeZaarin
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How in the world, that Genjutsu is better than an omnipotent energy field.According to DB, Genjutsu is better than the Force
This is clearly wrong. The Force had been defined as omnipresent again and again.
There's also this. Given their verse equalization rules, this kinda seems like really faulty reasoning, at least in my opinion.ha
ha No??? Palpatine had created an equivalent to Infinite Tsukuyomi on the planet Byss and Vader knows that Byss existed.
Although they could also end up taking Selene's moon or the planetary destruction of the Phoenix and scoring a victory for Natsu.
I say, we never know.
Warlordgab
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What's the current consensus here about Selene's moon showing?
Omnipotent is an exaggeration. What isn't, is that the Force scales way, way beyond anything ever shown in Naruto. DB were on crack with their latest episode, and the Vader downplay.
I don't know, there was never a consensus about it.
They don't but the moon feat
Several folks disagree with the outcome in the server and some others and didn't like the arguments that were made for it