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Claudio Swiss

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Stocking Anarchy

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Maddie said:
The Super Spiral Space sounds very similar to the Godsphere. Physics would include dimensional nonsense too also right? Like the Anti-Spiral Realm is 11-D, the Super Spiral Realm is "screw dimensional nonsense"-D? If that's the case, perhaps they may say Kyle and Simon's stats are equal at that stage. Was this where the very last h2h fight between Simon and the Anti-Spiral took place?

Can Simon resist the following?

  • Emotional Spectrum Dominance: The white light is the first light and in essence, all of the other colors of the emotional spectrum combined. As such, a user of a white ring can generate any color of the emotional spectrum and use the powers of each color. The white ring also allows the user to access the rings of any member of any of the other corps and observe these members.
  • Energy Blasts: They can fire energy blasts.
  • Force Field Generation: The white power ring can create various forcefields of various sizes and shapes to protect the user and others around him/her. These force fields protect him/her from the hazards of the void including filtration of stellar radiation and microscopic particulate matter which would ordinarily be fatal should the space debris strike the ring wielder at high speeds. An atmosphere appropriate to the person's biology is created inside the force-field, body temperature is maintained and waste products are removed. Gravitational stresses which could cause injury are stabilized. Theoretically, a white lantern could use the ring as his/her/its sole source of life support.
  • Energy Constructs: The white ring can form constructs of white energy. The primary function of the Power Ring is to provide a weapon capable of transforming the wearer's thoughts into physical constructs through the wearer's mastery of life and the entire emotional spectrum. A white lantern can create any particular items or construct that they can imagine as long as they have the mastery of emotions necessary to will it into existence. The constructs are made out of white energy, which is a tangible form of pure life, and they exist only as long as a white lantern is fueling it with their mastery of life energy. Items created by the rings are not indestructible and are only as powerful as the force of emotions of the white lantern that created them.
  • Phasing: A white power ring allows the wielder to pass through certain solid objects, such as walls. Which objects that are not penetrable are not known, but it may depend upon the strength of the user and the density of the object's molecular structure.
  • Environmental Playback: Upon their will, the white lantern can recreate a holographic environment based on data in its memory banks.
  • Invisibility & Light Refraction: A white lantern can render him/her/itself invisible by willing themselves to bend light waves around his/her/its form.
  • Energy Absorption: The white ring can absorb and store most other energies including the energy of the other colors in the emotional spectrum.
  • Flight: By the manipulation of anti-gravitons and directed molecular movement, they can fly at incredible speeds. In atmosphere, a white lantern has been known to fly as fast as Mach 10 in atmosphere by creating an aerodynamic envelope around his body. Towing others, usually within a bubble, his/her speed is limited to the twice the speed of sound or 1440 mph. In space,a white lantern speed can be significantly greater and has been known to approach 80% of lightspeed in normal space. Flight is possible at velocities exceeding light speed. In atmospheres, air friction is not a hindrance, since heat is either absorbed or reflected by the ring's field.
  • Wormholes & Spatial Warps: Their power grants its wearer access to wormholes in space, enabling the them to rapidly cut time and distance needed for transport.
  • Healing: The white rings have the ability to heal almost any injury, initial complete cellular regeneration, and in some instances resurrect the dead.
  • Connection to Life: The white ring uses the energy of life and so is connected to all life. The ring can allow users to see the foot prints of life and see the past and present conditions of all life in a limited area around the user and even the "souls" or essence of those who have recently died.
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I'll try to cover as much as I can. The Anti-Spiral dimension exists within dimensions (between the 10th and 11th dimensions), while the Super Spiral Space is described by Final Drill as existing beyond dimensions (I'll try find the quote again). As for where the fist fight between Simon and the Anti-Spiral took place, it technically takes place in both, as the galaxy sized mecha (TTGL & the Granzeboma) are Super Spiral Spaces. Also as a note, even though the Anti-Spiral dimension is still bound to physics, the Anti-Spiral can control how physics work in their pocket universe.

Flying, energy blasts and force fields are the easiest ones, as even pre-timeskip Gurren Lagann has those.

Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren can travel via warps too (perceptual teleportation), and can even attack enemies in warps outside linear time (Mega-Maelstrom Vortex Cannon).

Gurren Lagann can regenerate, although after the battle the damage seems to be restored so it has to be manually fixed. To tie this into phasing, the Anti-Spiral was intangible and simply reformed after Boota punched them, but Simon was able to bypass his durability and drill them to death.

The Galactic Spiral Abyss absorbed Spiral energy and turned it into mass/space-time, which Simon matched by outputting more energy than could be absorbed (although this still hurt him, and he could only keep it up for so long). This was also in a form weaker than SGGL, which is infinitely weaker than TTGL. There are also alternate Simons (who Simon the Digger should scale to via his awakening/Super Spiral Space) who can absorb energy/people (see Otoko).

Simon in the Super Spiral Space has a connection to life, though it seems to be more him and those around him (those he left behind, those that will follow, his friends, etc, although this is across infinite realities). As for raising the dead, the dialogue implies he can do this during Nia's wedding (and in the DS alternate ending, which I'm not sure is even canon or not, Kamina is resurrected to help defeat the Anti-Spiral, but returns to being dead afterwards). There's also Simon reuniting with Kamina in the Labyrinth (though I'm not 100% what's going on there).

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is a construct of sorts (as are all the other Tengen Toppa Units), which allowed them to manifest weapons and items based on the pilots abilities (this is how TTGL manifested a sniper rifle and swords based on Yoko and Viral's skills and abilities). In terms of facing others with these powers, the Anti-Spiral was able to create AIs and virtual life forms such as the Muganns and the Visaka, as the Anti-Spirals are said to be the "masters over life and death."
 
Maddie

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I'll try to cover as much as I can. The Anti-Spiral dimension exists within dimensions (between the 10th and 11th dimensions), while the Super Spiral Space is described by Final Drill as existing beyond dimensions (I'll try find the quote again). As for where the fist fight between Simon and the Anti-Spiral took place, it technically takes place in both, as the galaxy sized mecha (TTGL & the Granzeboma) are Super Spiral Spaces. Also as a note, even though the Anti-Spiral dimension is still bound to physics, the Anti-Spiral can control how physics work in their pocket universe.

Flying, energy blasts and force fields are the easiest ones, as even pre-timeskip Gurren Lagann has those.

Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren can travel via warps too (perceptual teleportation), and can even attack enemies in warps outside linear time (Mega-Maelstrom Vortex Cannon).

Gurren Lagann can regenerate, although after the battle the damage seems to be restored so it has to be manually fixed. To tie this into phasing, the Anti-Spiral was intangible and simply reformed after Boota punched them, but Simon was able to bypass his durability and drill them to death.

The Galactic Spiral Abyss absorbed Spiral energy and turned it into mass/space-time, which Simon matched by outputting more energy than could be absorbed (although this still hurt him, and he could only keep it up for so long). This was also in a form weaker than SGGL, which is infinitely weaker than TTGL. There are also alternate Simons (who Simon the Digger should scale to via his awakening/Super Spiral Space) who can absorb energy/people (see Otoko).

Simon in the Super Spiral Space has a connection to life, though it seems to be more him and those around him (those he left behind, those that will follow, his friends, etc, although this is across infinite realities). As for raising the dead, the dialogue implies he can do this during Nia's wedding (and in the DS alternate ending, which I'm not sure is even canon or not, Kamina is resurrected to help defeat the Anti-Spiral, but returns to being dead afterwards). There's also Simon reuniting with Kamina in the Labyrinth (though I'm not 100% what's going on there).

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is a construct of sorts (as are all the other Tengen Toppa Units), which allowed them to manifest weapons and items based on the pilots abilities (this is how TTGL manifested a sniper rifle and swords based on Yoko and Viral's skills and abilities). In terms of facing others with these powers, the Anti-Spiral was able to create AIs and virtual life forms such as the Muganns and the Visaka, as the Anti-Spirals are said to be the "masters over life and death."
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If DB recognizes this stuff for the Super Spiral Universe, they may say that Simon's level of power is similar to Godsphere level stuff Kyle as Whie Lantern deals with. It might all boil down to if Kyle gets the Life Equation
 
Top59

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If DB recognizes this stuff for the Super Spiral Universe, they may say that Simon's level of power is similar to Godsphere level stuff Kyle as Whie Lantern deals with. It might all boil down to if Kyle gets the Life Equation
 
Derpmaster9000

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Maddie said:
If DB recognizes this stuff for the Super Spiral Universe, they may say that Simon's level of power is similar to Godsphere level stuff Kyle as Whie Lantern deals with. It might all boil down to if Kyle gets the Life Equation
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Maddie, why the hell have you triple posted the same thing?(4th, if we count Top59, who just had a dupe moment :heston )
 
Claudio Swiss

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Guts vs Clare (Berserk vs Claymore)

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Papa Nier

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Shut up and take my money!
Claudio Swiss said:
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Rikochet vs El Tigre (Cartoon Network vs Nickelodeon)

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Guts vs Clare (Berserk vs Claymore)

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>Building level Clare
>Supersonic Clare
While we have her at town level+ and sub-relativistic+.
:skully
 
Top59

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Papa Nier said:
>Building level Clare
>Supersonic Clare
While we have her at town level+ and sub-relativistic+.
:skully
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The issue however is that these have no calcs whatsoever, you click on them and they send you to an old Narutoforum. The logic they used is also flawed (one used a calculator for meteors for no apparent reason, the sub-rela is calc stacking a feat with another that assumes Riful moving FTE gets massively hypersonic. Again, flawed calc with a flawed logic).
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