Death Battle Discussion

[Paxton]

How in the fuck did Composite Ryu lost?

If we want to take crossover logic to its most radical extremities, wouldn't Composite Ryu scale to Marvel vs Capcom (with Thanos saying that Satsui no Hado is stronger than all the Infinity Gems), Smash Ultimate, and Udon Comics Street Fighters (which itself has an infinite multiverse with the Fetus of God transcending it)?

Shouldn't that make Ryu orders of magnitude above at least DBS Goku?

Can anyone tell me what's going on here? @Blade

 

[Claudio Swiss]

(with Thanos saying that Satsui no Hado is stronger than all the Infinity Gems)

Except Marvel vs Capcom version don't scale to the comic incarnations

Smash Ultimate

Xenoverse/Heroes counters it

Udon Comics Street Fighters (which itself has an infinite multiverse with the Fetus of God transcending it)?

I'm sorry nigga wut

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

 

[Regular-Nothing Eric]

Except Marvel vs Capcom version don't scale to the comic incarnations

Xenoverse/Heroes counters it

I'm sorry nigga wut

Where does this forum scale Xenos and Heroes precisely?

And I thought this was just regular composite canon Goku with no Xeno/Heroes against Composite Ryu here?

I read from somewhere that the Udon comics Street Fighter does have an infinite multiverse created by Violence and Stillness (with Akuma scaling to them) and that a Fetus of God transcends it. Not making this shit up lol.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Where does this forum scale Xenos and Heroes precisely?

And I thought this was just regular composite canon Goku with no Xeno/Heroes against Composite Ryu here?

I read from somewhere that the Udon comics Street Fighter does have an infinite multiverse created by Violence and Stillness (with Akuma scaling to them) and that a Fetus of God transcends it. Not making this shit up lol.

good chance it was some tik tok nigga who took shit outta context

 

[Claudio Swiss]

 

[Gordo]

How in the fuck did Composite Ryu lost?

If we want to take crossover logic to its most radical extremities, wouldn't Composite Ryu scale to Marvel vs Capcom (with Thanos saying that Satsui no Hado is stronger than all the Infinity Gems), Smash Ultimate, and Udon Comics Street Fighters (which itself has an infinite multiverse with the Fetus of God transcending it)?

Shouldn't that make Ryu orders of magnitude above at least DBS Goku?

Can anyone tell me what's going on here? @Blade

No, Goku > Ryu is not up for debate

Especially composite version for each

 

[Limu&Doug]

Universe Tree Goku murderstomps Ryu

 

[Claudio Swiss]

 

[Maddie]

Still love this matchup

Gonna repost this for reminder if they ever do Omnidock

This would mean the following for Bardock vs Omni-Man.

Spoiler: quick conjecture about speed for Bardock

I will say this real quick. We cannot exactly scale much for speed with Piccolo's feat beyond what happened. However one thing I could say is that Goku trained under 10x gravity. Gravity formula is nonsense but his powerlevel increased 20-fold and his attack potency went from being comparable to Piccolo's moon-bust (13.46 yottatons in the anime) to at least not being too far behind King Vegeta's planet bust (1.8 tenatons), even ignoring bigbloat calcs he went from moon busting (~29 exatons) to 1/3 Earth Busting (~18 zettatons), so a massive boost in the hundreds to thousands for AP. Gravity obviously increases speed too; that was one thing everyone noticed after Goku did 100x gravity training on Namek, and IIRC Nappa in the anime noted how he felt much faster and more free on Earth's low gravity. I really don't think it would be too risky to say he became at least 10x faster after King Kai's gravity training. It doesn't feel too controversial to say that. And for Bardock vs Omni-Man, you can give Bardock all the speed multipliers you want it really doesn't matter in the end as Omni-Man's high end is still way faster so I don't feel it would be bad to slap a 10x multiplier.

Bardock
-Attack Potency: 1.8 Tenatons (Base), 90.1 Tenatons (SSJ)
-Speed: ⪆4.27 x FTL (Base), 213.5 x FTL (SSJ)
-Experience: He looks a bit older than Goku for most of Z, maybe in his 40s, given his low ranking status he probably has fought for his whole life. So probably 30-50 years of combat experience.
-Range: Planetary range

Omni-Man
-Attack Potency: 27.884 Zettatons (No-Crossovers), 2.15 Yottatons
-Speed: 41.25 x FTL (No-Crossovers), Billions to trillions of times FTL (Crossovers)
-Experience: Over 2000 years of combat experience
-Range: Several kilometers

Without crossovers, the speed gap wouldn't be too bad for Bardock (And assuming that the 10x gravity boost accounted for much, he is faster) and he could one-shot Nolan. However if crossovers allowed, even if Bardock is still millions of times stronger Nolan is just ridiculously fast. Bardock hits, he wins, Nolan won't get hit unless he gets down and dirty however.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

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[Claudio Swiss]

 

[Regular-Nothing Eric]

good chance it was some tik tok nigga who took shit outta context

Well no actually on the contrary, I found them from a Street Fighter UDON Comics thread on VSBW (yeah it's a shitty site with pretty sussy scaling and standards I know...) posted in 2021 and a poster named LIFE_OF_KING provided scans for them: https://vsbattles.com/threads/about-street-fighters-udon-comics.121822/#post-4013783

Violence and Stillness created the cosmos

Cosmos is represented as the multiverse

There are infinite threads of fate, each thread of fate being a possible alternative future

The concept of space-time is limited within the void

The void is once considered by Gen a place beyond all things in existence (Planes of existence, realms, space and time)

The Fetus of God would break the void

Blablabla, there are Tier 1 concepts basically. And at the end of the day Akuma becomes one with violence

Yes, Dark Hadou = Violence. Having different names is not relevant, since it is said that Dark Hadou has numerous names. Here's what Gill says about violence

The description of the origin of everything is very consistent with each other, and what makes it even better is that after it is said that the primary concept of the Makai is the Dark Hadou. Also, in the same comic where it is said that Violence and Stillness created existence Akuma makes sentence that Violence is the supreme force in the universe, so at least the authors thought in a context

Even though most of the links to said scans are broken now. And I dunno what his current stance are on them now. He might have changed.

Make of what you will.

 

[Regular-Nothing Eric]

No, Goku > Ryu is not up for debate

Especially composite version for each

Okay fine, regardless of whether Goku beating Ryu in composite form is true or not, at least please tell me you guys don't also buy VSBW's current stance on Dragon Ball Super being Tier Low 1-C with Zeno or even Dragon Ball Xenos/Heroes being Tier Low 1-C and above. Let alone Jumpforce wank (which I see a lot on YT Shorts and TikTok).

Or can at least some of us agree that Ryu and Street Fighter still beats Goku and Dragon Ball (the franchise in its current state especially) in the only thing that matters: quality?

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Okay fine, regardless of whether Goku beating Ryu in composite form is true or not, at least please tell me you guys don't also buy VSBW's current stance on Dragon Ball Super being Tier Low 1-C with Zeno or even Dragon Ball Xenos/Heroes being Tier Low 1-C and above. Let alone Jumpforce wank (which I see a lot on YT Shorts and TikTok).

Or can at least some of us agree that Ryu and Street Fighter still beats Goku and Dragon Ball (the franchise in its current state especially) in the only thing that matters: quality?

Nigga, don't come spouting the 'tier low 1-C' shit and expect people to know what the fuck that is, come on now.

Conversely, seeing as I've been on the site, I do know what it is though, lol 'complex' multiversal, with all the 'higher dimensional' garbage beginning to become front and centre, and by their standards() DBH qualifies as much as many other verses on VSBW do, when they, in all reality, shouldn't.

DBH is at least somewhat believable with its cosmology though, to qualify, even if you think it shouldn't. Super on the other hand? That just shows you how bad the standards really are, with the reasoning given, over there. But then, this is the same site that goes to bat for uni+ Kratos and uni to low-multiversal Dante with immeasurable speed, even without the madeupstats.net version of (lol)Peak of Combat. Their standards are... quite loose, to say the least.

 

[Regular-Nothing Eric]

Nigga, don't come spouting the 'tier low 1-C' shit and expect people to know what the fuck that is, come on now.

Conversely, seeing as I've been on the site, I do know what it is though, lol 'complex' multiversal, with all the 'higher dimensional' garbage beginning to become front and centre, and by their standards() DBH qualifies as much as many other verses on VSBW do, when they, in all reality, shouldn't.

DBH is at least somewhat believable with its cosmology though, to qualify, even if you think it shouldn't. Super on the other hand? That just shows you how bad the standards really are, with the reasoning given, over there. But then, this is the same site that goes to bat for uni+ Kratos and uni to low-multiversal Dante with immeasurable speed, even without the madeupstats.net version of (lol)Peak of Combat. Their standards are... quite loose, to say the least.

Okay so just to make it pretty clear, mate, I'm not crazy or insane then? At least not completely right?

 

[Regular-Nothing Eric]

Nigga, don't come spouting the 'tier low 1-C' shit and expect people to know what the fuck that is, come on now.

Conversely, seeing as I've been on the site, I do know what it is though, lol 'complex' multiversal, with all the 'higher dimensional' garbage beginning to become front and centre, and by their standards() DBH qualifies as much as many other verses on VSBW do, when they, in all reality, shouldn't.

DBH is at least somewhat believable with its cosmology though, to qualify, even if you think it shouldn't. Super on the other hand? That just shows you how bad the standards really are, with the reasoning given, over there. But then, this is the same site that goes to bat for uni+ Kratos and uni to low-multiversal Dante with immeasurable speed, even without the madeupstats.net version of (lol)Peak of Combat. Their standards are... quite loose, to say the least.

VSBW now thinks Kratos and GoW-verse is Low Complex Multiversal now simply because Athena ascended to "muh higher plane in heaven".

WTF is that shit bro?

 

[Derpmaster9000]

VSBW now thinks Kratos and GoW-verse is Low Complex Multiversal now simply because Athena ascended to "muh higher plane in heaven".

WTF is that shit bro?

It's called brain damage. A very real phenomenon amongst those who take too many shrooms, and then decide to spend their days on a battle-board with looser standards than the average simp for an E-thot.

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Okay so just to make it pretty clear, mate, I'm not crazy or insane then? At least not completely right?

Nah, you're good.



































So far, anyway.

 

[Claudio Swiss]

Dont mind any new faces just keep the dimensional tiering shit out the window