Doesn't change the fact that it's an unquantifiable feat. You can't claim the a character has a rating for a feat that you can't quantify to any rating.
If you wanna claim shit about resisting gravity being some level of durability me the math of how you translate that to anything. Go ahead, I will wait.
No reason it doesn’t apply to him. When presented with the idea of wielding Curtana. The sword wouldn’t make him any stronger than he already was and despite its comparability with him, it would shatter from his own power. Both Curtana take on a portion of Archangel Michael. Holy Right basically is Archangel Michael manifested as Fiamma’s ability.That's more so hax through possessing Michael's power which enables Curtana Original to do its fuckery, if you want to go the route of the Holy Right having that same ability. It's possible, but I've always been a bit iffy towards that.
In terms of explicit raw power (to avoid the whole "always +1 what the enemy is" deal for the Holy Right) it's at the least planet-star level. Maybe more if you want to scale it above what Gabriel can do with Astro in Hand.
Not taking part in the debate but I just wanna say that being able to survive an actual black hole of any size is a durability feat since you need to be able to resist being sphagetti'd due to the intense gravity.Doesn't change the fact that it's an unquantifiable feat. You can't claim the a character has a rating for a feat that you can't quantify to any rating.
If you wanna claim shit about resisting gravity being some level of durability me the math of how you translate that to anything. Go ahead, I will wait.
Solar system tier is chump tier for higher tiers in Ultraman tbhOk, but Kimi is solar system destroying, so probably not relevant for her.
The amount of universal-multiversal characters is like...I'm gonna be real and throw this out here:
If Goldenboy's feats he got from the series is true, then Jackal will ultimately lose to the Universal-Multiversal characters of which there should be 5-6 of them.
Everyone else he should be able to easily mop up, give or take.
Othinus, Coronzon (in the Abyss), the Magic Gods (of which there should be about a dozen or more that got "killed" off screen by Kamisato), Aiwass, potentially the Secret Chiefs, and Accelerator (sort of).
Not getting into Anna and her group of "Transcendants" because... yeah.
There are plenty of weaker characters who should be able to just hax him and can't really "die" through conventional means, such as Kakine, Frillsand, and Table-kun.
I don't see why the Magic Gods wouldn't scale to their explicit peers.Depends if the latter can actually do so. The former you put up, we don't count the Magic Gods as a group because they didn't fight like that and they are fucking COMPLICATED if we tried to use them that way. Aiwass only had 2 "fights" which kinda makes it hard to judge him, the Secret Chiefs are just potentials and Accelerator is iffy.
We don't put anyone into those levels unless they actually show it, FYI. Yeah if it's true and it gets passed, it wouldn't get to everyone just because of word of mouth says so, that's when scaling happens and they need to fight to keep that scaling.
I don't see why the Magic Gods wouldn't scale to their explicit peers.
Aiwass would hypothetically be at that level at full power since his whole purpose was to act as a weapon to DESTROY the Magic Gods and Magic in general, but it could have just been hax-based due to Phase destruction. But again, we haven't seen him at that level so I'll agree on that.
And while Accelerator "can't output that level of power on his own" (which I find makes 0 sense since he controls direction and MAGNITUDE) he certainly operates at that level, what with Coronzon's sword being = to Othinus' Gungnir in destructive power (with some hax attached to it as well), which he tore apart casually.
I think the obvious answer is just to scale them at least above what Othinus can do, and have them be equal to their fellow Magic Gods.It's more of before they was nerfed, we don't really got much there to really pit them in VS. battles and the "Infinitely Infinite" will just cause problems. Afterwards is fair game and only for those shown, again we don't scale off what we don't know(Same deal as pretending that all of the Sternritter we see are as powerful as each other which isn't true).
Which is why we say until we actually see it. Because if it's just hax based, then that's not the same deal and it's a different ball game.
I know about the Corozon's sword deal but I'll have to read up on that as it's always been iffy to me.
I mean again Jackal can hth Ultraman king and hold onI'm gonna be real and throw this out here:
If Goldenboy's feats he got from the series is true, then Jackal will ultimately lose to the Universal-Multiversal characters of which there should be 5-6 of them.
Everyone else he should be able to easily mop up, give or take.
I mean again Jackal can hth Ultraman king and hold on
Even pre power up he was sealed lol
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