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Game Ranked Dune Mafia - town victory

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ive called u frozen/less engaged in comparison to fang m8
if the early accusation agaisnt fang was that he's scared of you, i think it's baloney because he doesnt fear engaging you as scum + he has been more engaged with the others this game than you, until about maybe 30 minutes ago when you started engaging

anyone disagrees with this? ^
Fang spent most of his first posts saying absolutely nothing. Ya I disagree because it's bullshit. I never said anything about him being scared of me as scum, where are you even getting this from? When the fuck did I argue this?
 
It's not specifically about me. The only relevance I have is that, if you take his position as genuine, he believes that I'm scum. So he has no reason to claim when I ask him to. It makes no sense.

The bigger picture is that the claim is purely there to appease. Town Fang does not appease. Town Famg is difficult, obtuse, and does everything he can to basically stonewall certain things. He may well have refused to claim as scum, but that doesn't mean it's NAI. It just means he has refused to claim as scum. When has he claimed when prompted, straight away, in this fashion, as town?
the problem with aurelian is obviously i cant take half of what he says as genuine. i have to just shrug and accept some of it when reading his stuff

i dont think aurelian necessarily claimed to you specifically either, as fuji mentioned he claimed to the rampant wagon on him. think if it was u alone that sused him he obviously wont claim
 
the problem with aurelian is obviously i cant take half of what he says as genuine. i have to just shrug and accept some of it when reading his stuff

i dont think aurelian necessarily claimed to you specifically either, as fuji mentioned he claimed to the rampant wagon on him. think if it was u alone that sused him he obviously wont claim
I asked him to claim, he responded by claiming. Hello?
 
"he has been more engaged with the others this game than you"
aurelian didn't instantly engage with anything of substance, he just shitposted and bantered. that's the difference
 
think i said my piece etc..

i wont spend my weekend defending fang here, wud just request protections if he turn out town
 
Fang spent most of his first posts saying absolutely nothing. Ya I disagree because it's bullshit. I never said anything about him being scared of me as scum, where are you even getting this from? When the fuck did I argue this?
when u said he didnt comment on ur vote the implication was clearly that hes avoiding you due to fear
 
i dont think aurelian necessarily claimed to you specifically either, as fuji mentioned he claimed to the rampant wagon on him. think if it was u alone that sused him he obviously wont claim
So here is the sequence that led to his claim:
Your reasons are shit and without substance or weight to them; like Flower's play around Ultra.
Next.
Vanilla

Character is Harah
He directly quotes me with his claim. Where is this idea that he claimed in response to his wagon coming from? You're just taking something Fuji said and running with it, it's complete and utter shit with no basis in reality. If it were in response to his wagon it would cone after votes, he wouldn't need to wait for me to ask him to claim. And you would have just read this so mind explaining your position here? Why do you think it wasn't in response to me Ekko?
 
when u said he didnt comment on ur vote the implication was clearly that hes avoiding you due to fear
Nope, it was that I expected him to quote me and cone back with some snide snit. Instead he ignored it completely. Doesn't have anything to do with being scared.
 
btw b4 i go, fang flipping scum doesnt invalidate sparkle being one as well. just felt it needed to be said
 
I asked him to claim, he responded by claiming. Hello?

You think that the pressure of town!you alone would be enough to compel scum!Aurelian to claim?

I remember in Xmas game, i supported your vote on him making an 180 on him catching him off guard, which made him omgus push me.

Were you townreading Aurelian before you asked him to claim?
 
Nope, it was that I expected him to quote me and cone back with some snide snit. Instead he ignored it completely. Doesn't have anything to do with being scared.
oh and for the rest to consider btw - this isnt actually a scum indicative thing either. fang makes "snide snit" comments to ratchet all the time as scum lol

tl;dr overselling
 
You think that the pressure of town!you alone would be enough to compel scum!Aurelian to claim?

I remember in Xmas game, i supported your vote on him making an 180 on him catching him off guard, which made him omgus push me.

Were you townreading Aurelian before you asked him to claim?
I was not, no.
oh and for the rest to consider btw - this isnt actually a scum indicative thing either. fang makes "snide snit" comments to ratchet all the time as scum lol

tl;dr overselling
Again, I didn't say he doesn't. I said him saying NOTHING was weird, because usually he would say SOMETHING. This is twice now you've defended him on the basis of him showing expected behaviour as scum or town and saying that, because he has shown it, it means nothing when he doesn't show the inverse. It's not true. It's very very unlike Fang to completely ignore votes on him. If he responded with something snide, I wouldn't use it to read him one way or the other. As you said, he's done it before as both alignments. It's the lack of anything at all that's the issue. That, again, you neglect to consider.
 
ngl lads we might be in a bit of a pickle if its a poyser, ratchet, cp world and ultra is playing this cucked while facing them

he's abandoned us when we needed him the most
 
I was not, no.
Again, I didn't say he doesn't. I said him saying NOTHING was weird, because usually he would say SOMETHING. This is twice now you've defended him on the basis of him showing expected behaviour as scum or town and saying that, because he has shown it, it means nothing when he doesn't show the inverse. It's not true. It's very very unlike Fang to completely ignore votes on him. If he responded with something snide, I wouldn't use it to read him one way or the other. As you said, he's done it before as both alignments. It's the lack of anything at all that's the issue. That, again, you neglect to consider.
i moved on from defending him, its not a good use of my time. could use his flip as a litmus test for some of yall

if ur showing this much confidence im gonna let u cook and see
 
i moved on from defending him, its not a good use of my time. could use his flip as a litmus test for some of yall

if ur showing this much confidence im gonna let u cook and see
No, I want you to respond to the point. Why are you twisting my argument to suggest ill motive on my part when what you're arguing doesn't actually have anything to do with the issue I've outlined.

The problem really is that you're not conceding any ground. Typically, when your argument has been refuted, you either refute the refutation, or you drop the point because it has been addressed. You're not doing that. You're maintaining your position, but removing yourself from the argument by presenting that you have some grander plan around it. And I can only see that as positional. I've argued with Town Ekko too many times, I know how you think, and how your brain works. If you actually believed any of the shit you've said, I'd know it.
 
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