Game Ranked Dune Mafia - town victory

[Poyser]

Guillo is basically a walking magnet for negative attention, and regardless of his own boasting I don't think he's really all that good at navigating who's actually scum around these parts. Like I literally said, not much difference from say throwing a town read on Aurelian. Circumstantial of course but I'm also speaking to personally being scum and feeling almost zero compulsion to kill Guillo even after he claimed cop. I think it's a poor reason for Ratchet especially who doesn't really operate on a level 1 basis where he's obliged to chainsaw defend his town reads in the most predictable fashion imaginable

That's my best attempt at explaining it it's a pretty simple concept so if you don't get it can't be helped

You think ratchet would hard town aurelian when aurelian is being pushed by me/you?

see it think he'd actually do something that washes his hands of it, something like i think he's town/within his town range but im not going to defend him etc

im aware he doesnt operate on level 1, which is precisely why i dont really see him throwing out something like that without some kind of point behind it.

 

[Lethal]

I say that's not really surprising for a perfidious albion.

Why do you feel the need to talk down to others?

 

[Lethal]

Ok. Fine. I’ll move on

Thank you. Maybe one day we can be friends.

 

[Ultra]

Hard to tell who's being legitimately sorry and who's scum here

 

[Aurelian]

Kind of gay ngl

 

[Poyser]

It’s because i understand that every plsyer is different, that i can understand a townie can defend me while hard townreading me and another one defend me out of principle without necessarily townread me.

Ekko has way more reasons to be cautious about me than Ratchet. Ratchet has never seen me scum.

ok counter point
ekko was scum reading sparkles for defending flower without town reading her, saying she's just getting in the way/being obstructive

he then does the exact same thing with you. whats his motivation for defending you if he doesnt town read you?

 

[Aurelian]

Why do you feel the need to talk down to others?

This is standard bantering, frend.

 

[Poyser]

Hard to tell who's being legitimately sorry and who's scum here

this tact really isn't compelling btw

 

[Poyser]

you're certainly not above being sussed

 

[Sharter Holmes]

Looks to me like Gad just misremembered shit in all honesty. Happens all the time with him. I liked his reaction and other posts. So I don’t like your tunnel on him lol.

No I didn't. My point was that he was being defensive. I used certain posts to explain why I thought he was being defensive but then Fuji retroactively attached those proofs as part of my original claim.

 

[.guillo]

because why would he hard clear guillo if not using that clear to shade me or you or whatever? whats the point
you're saying you dont think ratchet has respect for guillo, so whats the point? again, its the strength of the way he cleared with. he left no opportunity to change. unless you're saying he'd do it to pocket guillo but again, you're saying he doesnt respect guillo and that hes a trainwreck so clearly thats not the point either

its pretty clear that the optimal play by far would either be join on guillo and take what is likely an easy lynch against someone thats probably going to keep making themselves look bad, or soft defend him and let me drive it knowing that he's probably going to keep looking bad. or as i say, hard defend guillo and use that to paint me as picking on an easy target/being a predator/pushing in bad faith etc etc etc

he just took him off the table and did nothing with it. there's not really a scum angle there unless they're both scum

Fuck.

Poyser is town.

 

[.guillo]

ok counter point
ekko was scum reading sparkles for defending flower without town reading her, saying she's just getting in the way/being obstructive

he then does the exact same thing with you. whats his motivation for defending you if he doesnt town read you?

He said i was getting in the way?

 

[Ultra]

You think ratchet would hard town aurelian when aurelian is being pushed by me/you?

see it think he'd actually do something that washes his hands of it, something like i think he's town/within his town range but im not going to defend him etc

im aware he doesnt operate on level 1, which is precisely why i dont really see him throwing out something like that without some kind of point behind it.

Yes.

I think there's always utility defending certain players as town when you're scum. The dynamics at play don't really change that. If for example lethal and Guillo are both town, I can probably town read him and know that later on if they're both around I can cash in on that.

Ratchet has high positional variance. On the opposite end, he can also bus without seemingly a point. He works towards his win condition, but my point is he isn't really putting up an obstacle in the way to get there, I would say Guillo is someone far more attractive to take forward than a lot of players here who are better at finding scum or more polarized

 

[Fujishiro]

No I didn't. My point was that he was being defensive. I used certain posts to explain why I thought he was being defensive but then Fuji retroactively attached those proofs as part of my original claim.

??? Wtf.

 

[Sharter Holmes]

It's Gad, he's as bad faith as they come. That's not how you read him.

Ouch

 

[.guillo]

Vote Ultra

 

[Sparkles]

It’s ok Generalized Anxiety Disorder, i like you. Well i don’t but that’s a personal thing

 

[Sparkles]

As in the actual disorder

 

[Flower]

Yes.

I think there's always utility defending certain players as town when you're scum. The dynamics at play don't really change that. If for example lethal and Guillo are both town, I can probably town read him and know that later on if they're both around I can cash in on that.

Ratchet has high positional variance. On the opposite end, he can also bus without seemingly a point. He works towards his win condition, but my point is he isn't really putting up an obstacle in the way to get there, I would say Guillo is someone far more attractive to take forward than a lot of players here who are better at finding scum or more polarized

What‘s your read on Ratchet outside the Guillo thing tho.

 

[.guillo]

Yes.

I think there's always utility defending certain players as town when you're scum. The dynamics at play don't really change that. If for example lethal and Guillo are both town, I can probably town read him and know that later on if they're both around I can cash in on that.

Ratchet has high positional variance. On the opposite end, he can also bus without seemingly a point. He works towards his win condition, but my point is he isn't really putting up an obstacle in the way to get there, I would say Guillo is someone far more attractive to take forward than a lot of players here who are better at finding scum or more polarized

Yah?

What is your read on me again? Cause im confused