Game Ranked Dune Mafia - town victory

[Poyser]

@Poyser read T-Peins iso and it just confused me like is he hinting at a lie detect or what but some questions are too vague lol.

that was my first thought but he cookin something
as i said to flower, whatever it is I'd say it makes him more likely town. as scum he tends to keep his cards very close to his chest so thats not really how i'd see him starting the game

 

[Poyser]

@Poyser In a worstgen game we played me and Ultra where he was scum I was death tunneling Soulkiller for the better part of day 1 and Ultra was egging me on and encouraging it, here he sees me starting to tunnel Gad and he does the reverse and scum reads me for it what do you make of this?

no idea really lol
he's not exactly a 1 note player tho

 

[Aurelian]

can u give something that isnt self centred plz

Flower isn't making much sense - NAI though (pretty much a given with her vs Ultra but his comment about her reaction to the indie question does stand out a bit)
Guillo I'm leaning town
Alco can be binned
Fuji town
Gad null
Ultra town
Ratchet scum leaning
You town-ish
Craig no idea/null

That's where I'm at

 

[Fujishiro]

Flower isn't making much sense - NAI though (pretty much a given with her vs Ultra but his comment about her reaction to the indie question does stand out a bit)
Guillo I'm leaning town
Alco can be binned
Fuji town
Gad null
Ultra town
Ratchet scum leaning
You town-ish
Craig no idea/null

That's where I'm at

You never town read me when you are town lol.

 

[Ultra]

Okay you‘re just taking the piss. You actually sound like me and that’s fucking beneath you.

How am I remotely sounding like you

You're obviously spite voting me because that's what you do, I have nothing to say because you're playing in such obvious bad faith. You know Fuji is acting off, and Sparkle's alibi really doesn't add up here, but you're trying to convince yourself I'm scum in all circumstance

 

[Fujishiro]

that was my first thought but he cookin something
as i said to flower, whatever it is I'd say it makes him more likely town. as scum he tends to keep his cards very close to his chest so thats not really how i'd see him starting the game

Yeah I agree he can be town.

 

[Poyser]

I don't really get why I'm getting reamed even if she happens to be town. You're acting like her behavior obviously leads to that conclusion which is insane. You know Sparkles is a cowardly scum player and she seems to be implying that her not pushing back on me was intentional play, and that she is seemingly only coming to life once the heat is off her. I really don't get it.

It feels like for a while now you've been trying to have your cake and eat it too by telling everyone why she's scum and also pissing on me in the process, but then reversed those considerations because she checks notes town read Lethal? Who the fuck cares

This is not a faithful representation. She started playing whilst the heat was very much on her, which is how she got it off

im not only pushing you because of your play around sparkles either, ive made it clear ive been uneasy around you for a while now, which includes how you treated flower early on and your weird issue with me town reading ratchet

 

[Fujishiro]

How am I remotely sounding like you

You're obviously spite voting me because that's what you do, I have nothing to say because you're playing in such obvious bad faith. You know Fuji is acting off, and Sparkle's alibi really doesn't add up here, but you're trying to convince yourself I'm scum in all circumstance

Town Ultra would find me pretty damn fast. Whats the hold up Ultra. If you really scum read me get this wagon rolling youre pretty damn timid about your push on me.

 

[.guillo]

no, he said that about sparkles lol
im saying he did basically the same thing he was sussing sparkles for, IE getting in the way of pushes without even town reading the person

I understand now.

It's hypocritical, but more often than not I see non-predatory hypocrisy coming from town.

This is of course my opinion and not a defense for him, he should answer for those himself.

 

[Ultra]

This is not a faithful representation. She started playing whilst the heat was very much on her, which is how she got it off

im not only pushing you because of your play around sparkles either, ive made it clear ive been uneasy around you for a while now, which includes how you treated flower early on and your weird issue with me town reading ratchet

Can you actually defend her play in concrete terms instead of of coming up with this nonsense head cannon

She town read Lethal. She gave a fence sitting take on me, then she town read you. That's literally all she did, and nothing about that from a position as scum feels at all irreconcilable

 

[Ultra]

Town Ultra would find me pretty damn fast. Whats the hold up Ultra. If you really scum read me get this wagon rolling youre pretty damn timid about your push on me.

Posturing.

Didn't take much to rescind that town read you had on me huh

 

[Flower]

How am I remotely sounding like you

You're obviously spite voting me because that's what you do, I have nothing to say because you're playing in such obvious bad faith. You know Fuji is acting off, and Sparkle's alibi really doesn't add up here, but you're trying to convince yourself I'm scum in all circumstance

Okay if you can’t defend yourself properly you can just go. Zero tolerance for getting gaslit.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Read his posts and tell me what’s Townie in them.

Nothing if you ask me.
How is he usually?

 

[Dr. Watson]

Also I’m gonna let sparkles cook for a bit. I don’t town read her yet but I don’t actively scum read her yet either

Think she’ll make herself obvious to me one way or the other soon enough

Melkor where is the vote count in that post lmao

Ekko putting in quite a lot of effort to defend guillo from both me and ultra, despite apparently not reading guillo town. Not really what i expect from town Ekko considering he usually prefers to see people under pressure and seeing how they respond

In fact it’s actively hypocritical, considering his main problem with sparkles seems to be she shut something down despite not town reading flower lmao

Don’t really mind guillo’s solving tbh since he’s got away from flower and his performative posturing. Think he’s made some decent observations

I don’t really like ekko, if i reconcile guillo as town then I think it’s very possible Ekko is just GOOD GUYing him. He seemed to go out of his way to defend him (and only him) whilst also making sure to never give him a town read lol. Think he rings pretty dishonest this game

But I’ll help out on sparkles for now. I think she’d be more eager to be here and the be solving especially off of her wagon if she’s town. She wasn’t backing away from confrontation in fujis game at all

vote sparkles

Well being real I kinda read u scum on the merit of your own play. Not gonna pretend I’m locked in tho! You’re a good player after all. Was kinda hoping sparkles would show up and show herself town to me so I could go there but she never did

Very sad

i don't see poy's read as a 180. he's been consistently fluid and open, has set specific expections that she failed to fulfill at first (quote 1) and looked for reactions that made him reconsider. it wasn't out of the blue. this was a read that was reassessed over her behavior.

 

[Aurelian]

You never town read me when you are town lol.

I do now

 

[Fujishiro]

Posturing.

Your subjective conclusion is noted.

Didn't take much to rescind that town read you had on me huh

Read my fucking posts you dumbo, Im trying to see if you are. Is this me trying to get you lynched right now or being unsure?

@Poyser In a worstgen game we played me and Ultra where he was scum I was death tunneling Soulkiller for the better part of day 1 and Ultra was egging me on and encouraging it, here he sees me starting to tunnel Gad and he does the reverse and scum reads me for it what do you make of this?

 

[Poyser]

Can you actually defend her play in concrete terms instead of of coming up with this nonsense head cannon

She town read Lethal. She gave a fence sitting take on me, then she town read you. That's literally all she did, and nothing about that from a position as scum feels at all irreconcilable

ok, so what post signals her "coming alive" in your opinion if its not when she started giving reads?

 

[Dr. Watson]

@Ratchet how can you example how am I supposed to play when you have yourself said 1) if I don't react then I'm town cause I don't really give a fuck (as per Magic in the last game) and 2) if I do give a fuck then you think its indicative of me playing with an agenda i.e. using that as a vehicle to expressively shade me as scum

So basically in either case its a lose-lose for me to ignore you and focus on other things but if I try to defend myself against your vote all of a sudden its suspicious but if I don't, its also suspicious apparently

Literally not possible to argue against this without being trapped in a box

why did you vote gad

 

[Flower]

Nothing if you ask me.
How is he usually?

Headstrong, sinks his teeth into his pushes and pursues his scum reads almost relentlessly if he thinks he‘s onto something. Certainly not like here where he‘s just pissing into the wind and see what sticks.

 

[Ultra]

i don't see poy's read as a 180. he's been consistently fluid and open, has set specific expections that she failed to fulfill at first (quote 1) and looked for reactions that made him reconsider. it wasn't out of the blue. this was a read that was reassessed over her behavior.

Her behavior in question is the problem. He's done a lot of sophistry over what's in concrete terms a complete nothingburger from Sparkles. It's basically obligational takes?

Are you all smoking crack or what