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Game Ranked Dune Mafia - town victory

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Flower said:
I got shaded over my sleep schedule, over having fun at the hotel and getting wasted. Over being frozen when it was fucking night time.

And nobody except Fuji bats a fucking eye or makes people aware of that when literally everyone here knows that I‘m on a fucking business trip. It‘s disgusting as shit.
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“Being sussed in a game about sussing people is disgusting” :bosque1:

Muppet
 
Poyser said:
I’d probably be more open to ratchet if I didn’t think there was a very good chance fang was scum lol

Reading his iso and he seems content to not really clear people, likes to bring attention back onto all the coasters. Alco, Watson, flower, plus the OMGUS on gad

Funnily enough the only coaster he doesn’t seem interested in talking about is fang :bosque1:
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I've talked lots and lots about Fang already. There is nothing more to say, he hasn't even shown up. I have no read on most of the coasters and I think anyone who claims otherwise is a liar, hence why I want them to be more engaged. This really isn't difficult.
 
Flower said:
I wanted to clear him more or less. And in the off chance he‘s scum he isn’t unlikely to perform the kill since he‘s in my Town leans.
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This doesn’t make sense tho. It doesn’t clear him at all because he could be the rolecop, blocker etc etc. He’s not any more likely to perform the kill if he’s mafia. In fact he’s claimed no night action so probably less likely to perform it

I understand going for the guy that’s claimed no night action if you suspect them because it’s low risk/high reward stuff but I think targeting the person you’re actively town reading makes next to no sense
 
Flower said:
You are throwing shades my way for having a job and a life.
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Everybody has a job and a life, you’re not special. The game is the game and getting sussed is part of it. In actual fact you’re not getting sussed for those reasons, you’re getting sussed for making a show of yourself and drawing attention to yourself as usual and failing to make yourself look town. People that townread you are basically town reading you because you’re being such a muppet that they have a hard time thinking you’d be such a muppet as scum. The problem is you’ve shown over the last two games that you’re a massive muppet as scum. So you tell me… why on earth should anybody be town reading you in this game?
 
Ratchet said:
I've talked lots and lots about Fang already. There is nothing more to say, he hasn't even shown up. I have no read on most of the coasters and I think anyone who claims otherwise is a liar, hence why I want them to be more engaged. This really isn't difficult.
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This is a villagery post
 
Ratchet said:
I've talked lots and lots about Fang already. There is nothing more to say, he hasn't even shown up. I have no read on most of the coasters and I think anyone who claims otherwise is a liar, hence why I want them to be more engaged. This really isn't difficult.
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There is stuff you can read them off tho, so saying anybody that claims to have a read is a liar is incredibly weak stuff. In fact you know this because as town you look for stuff to read people that aren’t contributing much all the time lol
 
Ratchet said:
She suggested it would clear me when it really doesn't do anything. I can believe it's a legitimate usage from her though.

Yeah see I dunno what you want me to do be doing with your slot when your responses are this. I've done solving, you earlier critcised me for not thunderdoming you and framed it as me being a coward, when I wanted to focus elsewhere. Now I focus on you and I'm not focusing elsewhere enough. Do I need to explain the issue here Ultra? Your points are shit. There is no earnest attempt to even try to solve me. I also have to say that for the most part, this game is the same 3 players posting. Particularly today. There isn't an awful lot more I can do when half the game are coasting and barely playing. Now the difference here is I'm not coming into today expecting to be lynched. I'm not bemoaning how stupid everyone is. I'm supposed to believe that you're playing today as if you expect your lynch to be a forgone conclusion, and the best you've got is to repeat "lynch Ratchet" over and over again, with the same shitty arguments, and when I point out that they're shitty arguments, you stop responding and then come back arguing that I'm doing the opposite and also that makes me scum.

This is not your town game. Not even close to it. I did consider whether you could be Indie, but Flower basically claiming it has more or less put paid to that consideration too. I've noticed that you've tried to tie me to Aurelian here as well, you don't actually want to argue it, so you coyly suggest that I haven't mentioned him, despite my fucking opening post being "yeah I still want to lynch him". YOU haven't done anything with that, until it's convenient for you. Again, shit.
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Let's talk about "bad faith" for a second, I started casing CP on the basis of swinging in the wind and you pull the rug and say "actually that's what you've been doing, think we're gonna lynch you today"

You haven't even considered him as scum for a moment. It's very bizarre and doesn't really make sense if you're town. I can see reasons for this if you're scum regardless of what his alignment is, but your play around him feels very tactical.

Feels like you're leaning on some of this stuff like challenging you to a thunderome etc as a bit of a crutch too. I was fairly cute about it, don't actually recall scum reading you for backing down exactly.
 
Ultra said:
Let's talk about "bad faith" for a second, I started casing CP on the basis of swinging in the wind and you pull the rug and say "actually that's what you've been doing, think we're gonna lynch you today"

You haven't even considered him as scum for a moment. It's very bizarre and doesn't really make sense if you're town. I can see reasons for this if you're scum regardless of what his alignment is, but your play around him feels very tactical.

Feels like you're leaning on some of this stuff like challenging you to a thunderome etc as a bit of a crutch too. I was fairly cute about it, don't actually recall scum reading you for backing down exactly.
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He’s basically doing the opposite of what I read cp town for lol. He’s making sure not to risk provoking the ire of people on his side
 
Not actually sure I even framed Ratchet as being a coward for not thunderdoming me

Like I obviously suspect Ratchet but kinda feel like he's overstating the degree in which I am giving him no choice or whatever massively
 
Poyser said:
There is stuff you can read them off tho, so saying anybody that claims to have a read is a liar is incredibly weak stuff. In fact you know this because as town you look for stuff to read people that aren’t contributing much all the time lol
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Alco? OLU? What am I reading them from? I do what you suggest from the lens of looking for town. I don't think I've even posted a reads list yet, but I do have some lower activity slots as town.
Ultra said:
Let's talk about "bad faith" for a second, I started casing CP on the basis of swinging in the wind and you pull the rug and say "actually that's what you've been doing, think we're gonna lynch you today"
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How is that bad faith? It wasn't the CP thing by the way, it was the Guillo interactions. I was sat there seeing you go back and forth to no ends, and figured that you're basically done.
Ultra said:
You haven't even considered him as scum for a moment. It's very bizarre and doesn't really make sense if you're town. I can see reasons for this if you're scum regardless of what his alignment is, but your play around him feels very tactical.
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He's been on the same page as me from the off. I don't think I'm wrong with my reads and he's been a sanity check for me at several points (regarding Ekko, and also regarding Guillo). I have no reason to consider him scum. Think he's been quite towny throughout actually.
Ultra said:
Feels like you're leaning on some of this stuff like challenging you to a thunderome etc as a bit of a crutch too. I was fairly cute about it, don't actually recall scum reading you for backing down exactly.
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You voted me for it. What's that supposed to convey, if not a scum read? But that's not even the problem - first you say I'm canvasing the room, which is bad because town Ratchet would have the "courage" to vote me, I end up voting you and you flip it and say I should be canvasing the room instead. That is straight up your progression. It's shit. Town Ultra is not shit.
 
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