Typically what you'll find on the level higher than greater gods are overdeities, which is a hilarious power difference considering the latter have no stats and are >>>>> all other deities, having control over the entire setting and putting them decently high into multiversal. Shit like the Lady of Pain, where the only rule when fighting them is 'you lose, good day sir.'In terms of levels I see gods like Lolth are Level 35, but what's actually the max level for gods and greater gods? Is there anything higher than 40?
And how does Elminster stack up? Since he seems to be Level 35 like Lolth, despite being mortal.
Does that mean Level 40 characters shouldn't have any problems with them, or is there something speacial they have outside of that?
So, how would a level forty Legend like the Knight Commander stack up for being a demon lord killer? Using Pathfinder as the context?Typically what you'll find on the level higher than greater gods are overdeities, which is a hilarious power difference considering the latter have no stats and are >>>>> all other deities, having control over the entire setting and putting them decently high into multiversal. Shit like the Lady of Pain, where the only rule when fighting them is 'you lose, good day sir.'
Elminster definitely should be on the level of at least lesser gods but based off his "I am better than you" status with Forgotten Realms I wouldn't be surprised if he was greater god level honestly
Levels are a bit different with each edition (mainly from 3e onward) as only 3e and 4e actually allow characters to reach epic levels. 3e technically had no level cap and 4e capped out at 30 but had the occasional CR 35 enemy intended to be thrown at a max level party. 5e did away with epic levels entirely but also introduced epic boons which are intended to be given to level 20 characters so the intent is still there. But usually a five level difference is enough to go from a 'modicum of challenge' to 'stomp fight', I just wanted to explain what the hell is going on with levels (and why I haven't brought up Eberron)
Since the lore is otherwise the same the best way for me to go about the changes is to just adapt the scaling for each edition based on any major figures, but apart from 5e usually being a bit fucked it seems to be alright.
Same for Neverwinter Nights IIRC.You can also reach level 40 in Baldur’s Gate 2.
I think that's mostly gameplay mechanics, and he is more likely around level forty. The Transcendant One, who represents his mortality and accumulated power, was able to create a universe sized plane at least. He also freed the gith from the mind flayer empire or something, and had a significant part in that.Apparently max level in Planescape: Torment is 128 it takes ages to get to. Normally you can get your main character near level 40 following all quests and combat options, and you can keep going if you grind.
Well we'd have to go off Pathfinder lore which admittedly I know less about, though from what I do understand at least the dude should be continental at the very least since demon lords should be similar in scaling to runelords.So, how would a level forty Legend like the Knight Commander stack up for being a demon lord killer? Using Pathfinder as the context?
A level twenty party in Kingmaker could fight a spawn of The Rough Beast. The deity itself being a threat to the whole multiverse, and the progeny it had fusing multiple planes together.Well we'd have to go off Pathfinder lore which admittedly I know less about, though from what I do understand at least the dude should be continental at the very least since demon lords should be similar in scaling to runelords.
Then again Wrath of the Righteous has cosmic bullshit going for it so I'm not sure if that would matter
Edit: Meant to say Wrath of the Righteous
Should be equal, given they're technically both overdeities.How does Ao stack up to the Lady?
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