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I'm fine with axing Tpein. What happened last game, someone give me a rundown.


cringe.
Unironically showing how bad you are yourself for playing like this.
 
fully caught up

town
gram -
strongest town read. thoughts on aurelian and sworder matched mine as im catching up. update - i think the aurelian wagon wont go further tho as i feel like hes town. its getting a lil stale imo and i hope gram moves on. @Grammaton do u have any current sus reads aside from fang? what r ur updated thoughts on him now after his interactions with other players. do u think this is the same as evans who we caught on very early last game but he talked his way out of a wagon?


lean town
magic -
i think he is playing protown now and helping move game forward. nothing outside of scum range after seeing monster hunter game but his play is inherently protown so if he is scum he is helping town rn and id imagine him to wanna go astray from this soon if scum. that wud be the point this read changes if it happens.
aurelian - i think i can decently read him after the last couple of games from the way he enters thread and holds conversations and believes what he is posting, even if i dont agree with some of it. he also did the town tell of his that i wont tell anyone ;)). i kind of hope gram moves elsewhere for a bit.


town side of null
sworder -
early posts felt less calculated than last game where he opened with a read list and small fluff. dont have any reason solid to put him any higher tho
melkor - moving melkor down to here, tho still think his line of solving comes off as townie. i do kinda sense a bit of mailing in a scum read on magic. @Lord Melkor do u have any early PoE or town reads rn? i think ur posts to magic r kinda phoned in. i dont think as scum u wud make it that obvious tho so im leaning more townie on u, but i want to see more fire in ur reads if possible. what would help u read magic?
RAEM - dont agree with anything they said (like saying that forming town reads is scummy) but dont necessarily sense malice. the names he threw for scum reads seem more lazy than mafia (because it serves him no purpose to antagonize that many players at once). dont have stronger reason to move him higher. @RÆM pls give us reasons for ur reads por favor.


null
evans -
if hes scum im gna need tpein to bury him here. update- moving him to null. if he continues tpein talk will move down to scum. there shud be plenty of content now for town evans to start cooking so im on the lookout for that
BLD - no update. i think fang comes better than BPD tbh, or rather, i dont feel like BPD scum reads fang really. aside from that dont have anything to read BPD from.
psychic - hi @Psychic . im afraid we might have lost you to the scum side this game :(( . can u help me read u town?
tweet - was looking a bit townie until that post where he retracts his town read of gram which looked very similar to how he retracted his town read off dofla last game. now sensing bit of scum tweet there. i think tweet wants to pursue RAEM now but idk the reasons behind it. @Hans Tweetenberg can u shed some light on ur PoE rn and reasons pls


scum side of null
cp -
i think everything cp engaged with this game was easy and safe, and him going back to iso gram/aurelian to bring the timeline issue was mostly performative. i cant really tell rn who cp scum reads or where his direction is. i feel like he wants that aurelian mislynch badly but he wont really overextend for it. if it ever becomes an opportunity he will put his fangs on it instantly, no pun intended.


vote lynch cp
@CraigPelton id like a read list with reasons from you pls. ty ty ^^
 
i think fang is town. id love to know ur thoughts on the other players / who is next in PoE for u, and thoughts on my read list above when u get time

Melkor seems solid so far, engaged, asking lotsa questions, town lean for now
i agree with the read, but not the reason. melkor asks lots of questions as scum too. how come is this town indicative for you?

alternatively you're scum together and you told him to sus you for town points with the WF/WS crew.
can u explain this pls

Why would me asking Evans a question be suspicious about T-Pein?
no not about tpein, but rather about u. what was the point of that question to evans? what did u hope to gain from it? whats ur current read of him?

also do u still think gram is lying? i saw ur recent posts and seem that now u reversed ur initial argument and now think that gram's sus on you came before BPD's posts / was premade. this would tell u that gram's posts are original atleast so could u accept a world where gram is town and move on from him to the next sus player? i expect gram to move from u as well
 
where do u draw the line / how do u determine whether fang is "trying to fake or play like his town game" versus "fang is simply town playing his town game".. like how did u arrive to him faking it rather than simply being it

Agreed. I'll give you some town points for this.
dont like this either. melkor asks lots of questions as scum. the number of questions is not how u read him, but rather the content of those questions. is this what u r referring to? how caught up r u with the game?
 
What is melkors scum game like ekko?

As I agree the scum read on me got weaker as it progressed instead of stronger. What he accused me of wasn't representative of my play at all.
 
maybe early town read on tpein as well from entrance

well thats all i have, be bk later

wud like collective thoughts on cp from everyone / where we stand on cp right now

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that being said...



Narrator:

"Kekko wasn't very satisfied with the diversity of the current discussions that are happening in the thread. To him, it seemed mostly few people arguing back and forth with each other, and not enough voices are getting paid attention to, especially scum voices, who seem to be intentionally on the low right now, and are allowed to be so, by our internal town vs town fighting.

Kekko would like the top posters to slow down a bit and let the thread die then naturally pick up to make the intentionally low scum voices get heard more, but Kekko will not take a major stance yet. He decided to just go to the background and observe."

Progress toward Kekko's explosion - 12%
 
What is melkors scum game like ekko?

As I agree the scum read on me got weaker as it progressed instead of stronger. What he accused me of wasn't representative of my play at all.
cant really say im the strongest melkor leader

i think his reads come off more into one-liners as scum and he will generally project over excitement. he will also be more mechanically/flavor focused over gameplay. he also doesnt take big risks and tries to avoid having to wifom out of problems later. reason why i still think he could be townie here is i think scum melkor wud say he is getting power wolf vibes from u but not try to go more into it, atleast not this early.

here r 2 recent scum games of his if u wanna take a look:


 

Aurelian is low hanging fruit.
gramma is doing nothing different here than what he did to me last game.
not impressive
not gonna sheep gramma.
deal with it.
 
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