Here's what I had on Achro yesterday:
Starting from top to bottom - I ask Achro if he was planning on actually placing a vote that would go anywhere and he postures and says he'd prefer to go with his own leads.
Not long before the execution shebang he lays a case out on Polar Bear and insists on it in spite of input from other players and with EoD looming close
I think it's hard for me to reconcile him being insistent here on PB as anything less than knowing intentionally that he was going to split the wagon, we barely had 5 votes on the existing one and he's championing a 3rd axis, which fits the profile of what happened later with the execute. Make sense?
Some additional notes from his ISO last night:
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Reads Gad as town for his read on Luka. I can chalk this up to coincidence in a vacuum, but looking back, I think Achro's position on both Gad and Ratchet comes after Ratchet casted his suspicion on Gad. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he felt he could lend a voice supporting him to push back a bit against a forming consensus
Scum read on Ratchet
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Showing some flexibility in his gad read by asking the room. Notice he doesn't actually ask for a game though. Reading the room
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I remember this post bugging me as it was a soft push in multiple directions
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Starting progression on Polar Bear who'm he previously read as town (why). Think the tidbit about RDK stands out a bit
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I think by this point Achro has extended his position on Gad well beyond what it merits. He has taken "I agree with him on Luka" to "I agree with him on several people" (unspecified)
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Whole tangent about getting info from the RDK wagon, he seems to think the wagon is already quite stinky and kinda implies he'd be hindsight hero'ing and suspecting those on it (interesting imo)
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Playing defense on Gad's claim
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Overall think he is likely to have been playing active support for Gad and the rest of my PoE and hasn't really done anything to contribute positively to town
You were informed this is majority and seemed to take that to heart, we routinely run the risk here of not actually achieving lynch st all so I would strongly recommend voting someone you think has a chance of dying instead of this
I feel no need to vote anywhere other than suspicion until the last hour tbh.
Although the only thing keeping polar bear alive is everyone else's inaction. If we dream big enough anyone can die.
Anyway I guess since I don't like the direction of the day I should start playing seriously.
So I guess my problem with Polar Bear in a game with a lot of character, a lot of nuance, his posting has none of that and his suspicions are prime targets for this. His RDK suspicion is glorified OMGUS, his suspicion of Sky is the most generic response I have ever heard and when I followed up he basically just said words at me. This read's as someone's first attempt at appearing to be solving when really they aren't doing anything like solving. The whole asking questions bit being "classically scummy" or whatever lacks character that other suspects have in their favor, and also lacks coherence as a scum finding tactic as i don't believe for a second that on a broad scale scum ask more questions than town. Maybe an isolated incident, but this feels like something he read someone say one time and he is going "yeah, that sounds right."
I just don't believe polar bear's suspicions tbh. I have town reads on his suspects as well. Nothing about this iso satisfied me at any point. It is devoid of personality, of flavor, and of solving acumen. You say I should collapse into the topic's top pick? No, the topic should sheep me and watch as we kill this year's early contender for most obvious day 1 scum award in the form of this 1200 pound mammal.
Or do what you want I guess.
Can you please quote some of your favorite posts from Polar Bear?
If he is known to not have a good scum game then yeah I would send this 100% of the time lol. Even the "Luka said you were good at the game!" bit felt so painfully forced.
reminds me of sky in the mash flower talked about, now that i think about it.
@Polar Bear could you please pull the posts from me as of 645 that led to you to have me as confident town? ty.
Someone can tell me if this is null for Polar bear but making a list out of nowhere 600 posts after leaving with 0 commentary or real timing in between feels bad to me lol
No, I understand, however when it comes to ranges i always leave wiggle room for improvement in lesser skilled players. Unless he is just utterly hopeless and never learns or something.
Starting from top to bottom - I ask Achro if he was planning on actually placing a vote that would go anywhere and he postures and says he'd prefer to go with his own leads.
Not long before the execution shebang he lays a case out on Polar Bear and insists on it in spite of input from other players and with EoD looming close
I think it's hard for me to reconcile him being insistent here on PB as anything less than knowing intentionally that he was going to split the wagon, we barely had 5 votes on the existing one and he's championing a 3rd axis, which fits the profile of what happened later with the execute. Make sense?
Some additional notes from his ISO last night:
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You giving out town reads mean little to me outside of if you are scum then they are likely just town! Why even bother saying this by the way, if it's not related to literally anything in my post; aside from to discredit a town lean, not read of mine for no reason? In addition to that, isn't...

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You giving out town reads mean little to me outside of if you are scum then they are likely just town! Why even bother saying this by the way, if it's not related to literally anything in my post; aside from to discredit a town lean, not read of mine for no reason? In addition to that, isn't...

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@Luka diabellstar witch is the hottest girl in yu gi oh right? very adorable much kawaii Top 3 😊

Reads Gad as town for his read on Luka. I can chalk this up to coincidence in a vacuum, but looking back, I think Achro's position on both Gad and Ratchet comes after Ratchet casted his suspicion on Gad. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he felt he could lend a voice supporting him to push back a bit against a forming consensus
Scum read on Ratchet
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@Luka diabellstar witch is the hottest girl in yu gi oh right? very adorable much kawaii Top 3 😊

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@Luka diabellstar witch is the hottest girl in yu gi oh right? very adorable much kawaii Top 3 😊

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What do you think of what ultra is saying? If I think that your read is shit, why am I towning you.

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What do you think of what ultra is saying? If I think that your read is shit, why am I towning you.

Showing some flexibility in his gad read by asking the room. Notice he doesn't actually ask for a game though. Reading the room
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He isn't good as scum. Not satisfying. Town case him.

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He isn't good as scum. Not satisfying. Town case him.

I remember this post bugging me as it was a soft push in multiple directions
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She pretty much does sheep me out the gate every game! Not when I think your pushes are whack. I just don‘t see the case on Luka.

Starting progression on Polar Bear who'm he previously read as town (why). Think the tidbit about RDK stands out a bit
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She pretty much does sheep me out the gate every game! Not when I think your pushes are whack. I just don‘t see the case on Luka.

I think by this point Achro has extended his position on Gad well beyond what it merits. He has taken "I agree with him on Luka" to "I agree with him on several people" (unspecified)
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She pretty much does sheep me out the gate every game! Not when I think your pushes are whack. I just don‘t see the case on Luka.

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I don‘t think Rugrat gives scum a fake PR since those are usually seen as Town and he‘s under the belief games should be more Town favoured. Just like Watson is unlikely to do stuff like faking PRs or Miller claims since she doesn’t want to burn trust. Tldr don‘t worry about that. Okay, from...

Whole tangent about getting info from the RDK wagon, he seems to think the wagon is already quite stinky and kinda implies he'd be hindsight hero'ing and suspecting those on it (interesting imo)
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Anyway town ratchet should have mo confidence that me being caught up would lead to me feeling better about him. My track record with him day 1 is pretty touch and go so even if he felt good about me being towny he would probably in my estimate as town have confidence that I wouldn't suspect him...

Playing defense on Gad's claim
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I guess I'm asking why it took you so long? Because I did like his progression on the Luka thing. Last game I found both you and ultra immediately suspicious. As in no redeeming qualities anywhere. Opposed to this game where I feel you're town due to your approach(again I'm not basing it off...

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I guess I'm asking why it took you so long? Because I did like his progression on the Luka thing. Last game I found both you and ultra immediately suspicious. As in no redeeming qualities anywhere. Opposed to this game where I feel you're town due to your approach(again I'm not basing it off...

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I guess I'm asking why it took you so long? Because I did like his progression on the Luka thing. Last game I found both you and ultra immediately suspicious. As in no redeeming qualities anywhere. Opposed to this game where I feel you're town due to your approach(again I'm not basing it off...

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I guess I'm asking why it took you so long? Because I did like his progression on the Luka thing. Last game I found both you and ultra immediately suspicious. As in no redeeming qualities anywhere. Opposed to this game where I feel you're town due to your approach(again I'm not basing it off...

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Overall think he is likely to have been playing active support for Gad and the rest of my PoE and hasn't really done anything to contribute positively to town