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Here's what I had on Achro yesterday:

You were informed this is majority and seemed to take that to heart, we routinely run the risk here of not actually achieving lynch st all so I would strongly recommend voting someone you think has a chance of dying instead of this

I feel no need to vote anywhere other than suspicion until the last hour tbh.

Although the only thing keeping polar bear alive is everyone else's inaction. If we dream big enough anyone can die.

Anyway I guess since I don't like the direction of the day I should start playing seriously.













So I guess my problem with Polar Bear in a game with a lot of character, a lot of nuance, his posting has none of that and his suspicions are prime targets for this. His RDK suspicion is glorified OMGUS, his suspicion of Sky is the most generic response I have ever heard and when I followed up he basically just said words at me. This read's as someone's first attempt at appearing to be solving when really they aren't doing anything like solving. The whole asking questions bit being "classically scummy" or whatever lacks character that other suspects have in their favor, and also lacks coherence as a scum finding tactic as i don't believe for a second that on a broad scale scum ask more questions than town. Maybe an isolated incident, but this feels like something he read someone say one time and he is going "yeah, that sounds right."

I just don't believe polar bear's suspicions tbh. I have town reads on his suspects as well. Nothing about this iso satisfied me at any point. It is devoid of personality, of flavor, and of solving acumen. You say I should collapse into the topic's top pick? No, the topic should sheep me and watch as we kill this year's early contender for most obvious day 1 scum award in the form of this 1200 pound mammal.

Or do what you want I guess.

Can you please quote some of your favorite posts from Polar Bear?

If he is known to not have a good scum game then yeah I would send this 100% of the time lol. Even the "Luka said you were good at the game!" bit felt so painfully forced.

reminds me of sky in the mash flower talked about, now that i think about it.

@Polar Bear could you please pull the posts from me as of 645 that led to you to have me as confident town? ty.

Someone can tell me if this is null for Polar bear but making a list out of nowhere 600 posts after leaving with 0 commentary or real timing in between feels bad to me lol

No, I understand, however when it comes to ranges i always leave wiggle room for improvement in lesser skilled players. Unless he is just utterly hopeless and never learns or something.

Starting from top to bottom - I ask Achro if he was planning on actually placing a vote that would go anywhere and he postures and says he'd prefer to go with his own leads.

Not long before the execution shebang he lays a case out on Polar Bear and insists on it in spite of input from other players and with EoD looming close

I think it's hard for me to reconcile him being insistent here on PB as anything less than knowing intentionally that he was going to split the wagon, we barely had 5 votes on the existing one and he's championing a 3rd axis, which fits the profile of what happened later with the execute. Make sense?

Some additional notes from his ISO last night:


Reads Gad as town for his read on Luka. I can chalk this up to coincidence in a vacuum, but looking back, I think Achro's position on both Gad and Ratchet comes after Ratchet casted his suspicion on Gad. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he felt he could lend a voice supporting him to push back a bit against a forming consensus

Scum read on Ratchet


Showing some flexibility in his gad read by asking the room. Notice he doesn't actually ask for a game though. Reading the room


I remember this post bugging me as it was a soft push in multiple directions


Starting progression on Polar Bear who'm he previously read as town (why). Think the tidbit about RDK stands out a bit


I think by this point Achro has extended his position on Gad well beyond what it merits. He has taken "I agree with him on Luka" to "I agree with him on several people" (unspecified)


Whole tangent about getting info from the RDK wagon, he seems to think the wagon is already quite stinky and kinda implies he'd be hindsight hero'ing and suspecting those on it (interesting imo)


Playing defense on Gad's claim


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Overall think he is likely to have been playing active support for Gad and the rest of my PoE and hasn't really done anything to contribute positively to town
 
so i guess mafia does not have a janitor or they r valuing killing the the confirms more than securing good claims. meaning they probably already got decent claims in store / claimed them already

and the lack of second kill 2 nights in a row might hint at an arsonist
Crying about indy. Wolf confirmed
 
Now if I enter a realm where Flower can be nice to me, and I can understand the logic behind her hints, then we get confirmed town core of Magic & Ultra. Wolves are fucked.
 
There's no reason to as long as you acknowledge any bit at all of what I say here today, don't think Kekko is going to be the way to go

I think Melkor for starters has explaining to do, because he didn't counterclaim at all that he protected someone else, and apparently didn't read his role pm and just took Ekko's word for his target choice, or this is what I'm supposed to believe? Makes no sense

I was not online when Ekko claimed and also not fully caught up later (i read none of day 1 and like half of day 2).

Alco was on the Gad wagon though. I think day 2 bussing Gad would be obvious choice, not sure about day 1.
 
Here's what I had on Achro yesterday:

Starting from top to bottom - I ask Achro if he was planning on actually placing a vote that would go anywhere and he postures and says he'd prefer to go with his own leads.

Not long before the execution shebang he lays a case out on Polar Bear and insists on it in spite of input from other players and with EoD looming close

I think it's hard for me to reconcile him being insistent here on PB as anything less than knowing intentionally that he was going to split the wagon, we barely had 5 votes on the existing one and he's championing a 3rd axis, which fits the profile of what happened later with the execute. Make sense?

Some additional notes from his ISO last night:


Reads Gad as town for his read on Luka. I can chalk this up to coincidence in a vacuum, but looking back, I think Achro's position on both Gad and Ratchet comes after Ratchet casted his suspicion on Gad. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he felt he could lend a voice supporting him to push back a bit against a forming consensus

Scum read on Ratchet


Showing some flexibility in his gad read by asking the room. Notice he doesn't actually ask for a game though. Reading the room


I remember this post bugging me as it was a soft push in multiple directions


Starting progression on Polar Bear who'm he previously read as town (why). Think the tidbit about RDK stands out a bit


I think by this point Achro has extended his position on Gad well beyond what it merits. He has taken "I agree with him on Luka" to "I agree with him on several people" (unspecified)


Whole tangent about getting info from the RDK wagon, he seems to think the wagon is already quite stinky and kinda implies he'd be hindsight hero'ing and suspecting those on it (interesting imo)


Playing defense on Gad's claim


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Overall think he is likely to have been playing active support for Gad and the rest of my PoE and hasn't really done anything to contribute positively to town
didn't read this now will do later on pc..im already on board anyway. wanted his claim yesterday

also think melkor is scum or serial. the redirect/busdrive theory is very very unlikely
 
Now if I enter a realm where Flower can be nice to me, and I can understand the logic behind her hints, then we get confirmed town core of Magic & Ultra. Wolves are fucked.
Sigh…

Witchcraft = Magic.

Ultra needs scrutiny + LEGACY = Ultra.

I even made sure this was the last thing I posted before asking for Refills. As soon as I flipped 2 shot people would have been able to deduce I was using my role anyway.
 
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Regardless of Flower's alignment Magic is 100% guaranteed town. As a scum faking hider you clear a townie first so people will suspect them if you flip before clearing the mate

In theory he could be serial with invest immunity? But I am pretty sure Magic is town based on play.

Where are you with reads? I have not seen you voting Gad day 1 as well.
 
I was not online when Ekko claimed and also not fully caught up later (i read none of day 1 and like half of day 2).

Alco was on the Gad wagon though. I think day 2 bussing Gad would be obvious choice, not sure about day 1.
ur initial response agreed to my claim. u were on board with me saying u visited flower

i tagged u in the post where i claimed and u saw it
 
Sigh…

Witchcraft = Magic.

Ultra needs scrutiny + LEGACY = Ultra.

I even made sure this was the last thing I posted before asking for Refills. As soon as I flipped 2 shot people would have been able to deduce I was using my role anyway.
if u got a refill last night as u asked it wud have failed and been a waste no?
 
ur initial response agreed to my claim. u were on board with me saying u visited flower

i tagged u in the post where i claimed and u saw it

I do not remember this that way.

Also you think an experienced player like me would botch his claim that easily?
 
if u got a refill last night as u asked it wud have failed and been a waste no?
Yes, but I rather waste a Refill than let scum know I have another shot and get a free double kill instead of a clear if I target Town :biden .
 
Yes, but I rather waste a Refill than let scum know I have another shot and get a free double kill instead of a clear if I target Town :biden .
i get that

its similar to me distancing from tracker

shudnt be hard for u to see what i was doing then
 
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